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post Oct 19 2010, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 04:04 AM) *
We lose 2-0 .

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You don't even think we're gonna score?!

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post Oct 19 2010, 09:14 AM
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Nyope! They'll shut down Pirlo...and that's that.
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post Oct 19 2010, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 04:14 AM) *
Nyope! They'll shut down Pirlo...and that's that.

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I see... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

So more for optimism (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 19 2010, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 11:34 AM) *
We lose 2-0 .


That's goal.com's prediction! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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Last season Milan won 3-2 against Madrid at the Bernabeu but with Jose Mourinho in charge of the Spanish giants, there is little likelihood that a similar scoreline will occur again. A Milan win is out of question and although Madrid will go into the match as favourites, they should be trying to avoid any slip-ups.


LOL at the underlined part. I'm not saying we will win, but it's not out of question either.
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post Oct 19 2010, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 01:04 AM) *
We lose 2-0 .


About 90% of me says you're absolutely correct. That is because i am 90% sure that Seedorf will start, Di Maria-Ronaldo-Ozil will be too much for Rino-Zambro-Antonini. At some point, one of them will wriggle free, and either set up Higuain, or take their chance.

The impetus is on Madrid to win. They are at home. They will look to land a sucker punch early.

However, on the 10% chance that Boateng starts, I could see us being more difficult to break down with Rino and Boa's unrelenting desire to win challenges, we make the game ugly for a while, frustrate C-Ron, and eventually our work rate would eventually pay off in the form of a swift counter. In this case, a draw or possibly a stunning win is possible.

We so desperately need our midfield to track back in this match. Say what you will, but if it takes a drubbing to make Allegri realize that a Seedorf, Pirlo, Rino midfield is not what it was 5 years ago, then a drubbing I will welcome. WE NEED BOATENG IN OUR FIRST ELEVEN

I can't express how deep my desire is to see our 3 Brazilian forwards score - all for different reasons. Pato to continue his rampant form and sock it to the Bernabeu, Dinho so he can haunt them like the ghost of Bernabeu past, and Robinho just so he can laugh in Madrid's face, and we can do so with him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Imagine, C-Ron on the ground crying. Meanwhile, Robinho trotting to the corner flag sucking his thumb. I would say that such a site would be soul sucking for Madrid, but let's be real, Madrid have no soul. FORZA AC MILAN.

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post Oct 19 2010, 09:46 AM
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I just cant belive how a coach who has in his team flamini and gatuso and chooses gatuso its non sens plus boateng who has been man of the match almost every game that he played is still a sub
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post Oct 19 2010, 09:52 AM
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Boateng against C-Ron? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'd sell Kaladze's left testicle to have Ambro back and on form for this match. If that man was in there I might be a little more optimistic.

This match is not going to be decided on formation or even line-ups. It's in how unpredictable we can be (something Allegri already said in his press conference, so it gives me a little hope...).

Dont' hit on Zee too much. If I absolutely had to win a CL match, the first names I think of are Pippo and Zee (since Zizou and Paolo are retired). We won the last match in Bernabeu principally because of Zee's cross field passes through to Pato...and we all know he has a seperate fuel tank he keeps locked up for 'special' CL nights.

I'd play a 4-3-2-1 with Pato and R80 alongside each other, dropping deep and bisecting the Spanish lines.

Madrid's gameplan?

Mourinho will probably plan on Di Maria holding back to do a double team along with Khedira on R80 (since he thinks R80 to be on the left) high on our side of the field. Khedira will also try and do a number on Pirlo. C-Ron will look to attack Luca Antonini whose positioning is not the best...and therefore will give CR the space to cut inside to the midfield. Since Ramos will obviously make runs. This will force Rino onto defensive duty.

With Pirlo shackled by Khedira and Alonso, that leaves us shortchanged in mid-field. Hence why I'd prefer to have Zee in there rather than KPB, since we're almost certain to be suffocated creatively. If we need someone to do something with the ball, I'd rather it be Seedorf than KPB. He can find those balls through to Pato and Zlatan if no one else can..and Madrid are left short of defensive options.

So yes, my lineup would be the same as against Chievo. But we'd play differently. R80 would be a little more withdrawn and on the leftish centre to attack Marcelo's space and keep Di Maria cautious. Pirlo would be a little more advanced and on the right to push Xabi back. Zee would be in and around the centre circle going mano-a-mano against Khedira. Rino to do a Mad Dog for 45 minutes and then you bring in Flamini to do the same. Simple directive to both those two for Madrid: THEY SHALL NOT PASS!


Zambrotta---Nesta---Bonera----Luca
--------------Rino--------------------
--------------------Seedorf------------
-----Pirlo------------------R80----------
-----------------------------Pato---------
----------------Zlatan-----------------------

Yes, Blue's gonna come in and rip me a new one about the amount of space available between our lines and how Mourinho's already jacking off looking at my lineup. But obviously when we are defending we're gonna be a much more compact, tight 4-5-1.

Do I think we'll play this?? Hell no! We'll play our 4-3-3 and get prison-r@ped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Like I feckin care. It's a group stage match. The last time Madrid beat us at the Bernabeu in the group stage, we ended up winning the CL final. Which just so happened to be in England. I'll take a 2 goal defeat, thank you very much! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Oct 19 2010, 10:12 AM
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Listen... it's VERY SIMPLE...... Allegri better is going to start:

PATO, ZLATAN
Ronaldinho
Gattuso, Pirlo, Boateng
Antonini, ?????, Nesta, Zambrotta
Abbiati

Or I will be PISSED at him if I see Seedorf over Boateng !!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Oct 19 2010, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 01:52 AM) *
Boateng against C-Ron? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'd sell Kaladze's left testicle to have Ambro back and on form for this match. If that man was in there I might be a little more optimistic.


No no. Rino on Antonini's side to help him with C-Ron, allowing him to possibly push forward sometimes (which we'll need). Boateng on Zambro's side, where Zambro is more steady defensively, so Boa can be slightly more of a box to box.

Btw, selling Kaladze's left testicle isn't worth shiet. You must really not care about getting Ambro back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 01:52 AM) *
Dont' hit on Zee too much. If I absolutely had to win a CL match, the first names I think of are Pippo and Zee (since Zizou and Paolo are retired). We won the last match in Bernabeu principally because of Zee's cross field passes through to Pato...and we all know he has a seperate fuel tank he keeps locked up for 'special' CL nights.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I agree he's got that special ingredient. But not for 90 mins he doesn't! Im not being harsh on Seedorf, in fact as stated in a previous post, I suggest, in fact want that he comes on later. Boateng IS capable of a cross field pass, and he can actually run! He won't be able to prove he's 'special' unless he actually plays in a 'special' game and proves he's worthy of the occasion!

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 01:52 AM) *
Madrid's gameplan?


Di Maria is not a player who holds back and helps defensively. He's an all out winger, and he won't be hanging around Khedira's holding midfield area much. He will be told to attack Zambro. At times, he will cut inside, and when he does Seedorf will not have the defensive positioning or legs to put him off. Boateng will. And I sense you don't rate Boateng's ability to maintain possession, but I'd charge that Boa has been as responsible with the ball when he's had it as anyone on our team this season. I know And I agree that CR will attack Antonini, which is why Rino should be on his side. Ramos won't be playing, which is all the more reason to let Rino handle defending, while letting Luca go forward when possible.

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 01:52 AM) *
Yes, Blue's gonna come in and rip me a new one about the amount of space available between our lines and how Mourinho's already jacking off looking at my lineup. But obviously when we are defending we're gonna be a much more compact, tight 4-5-1.


HAHA, wow to the first sentence. But speaking to the second sentence, Clarence and Pirlo won't be doing much (useful) defending, and we're not Barca. We can't keep the ball the entire match. We'll need players with legs! Don't you realize how much faster Ozil, Di Maria, Ronaldo, and Higuain are than Seedorf and Pirlo? If all of them raced, Seedorf and Pirlo would finish last every time.

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 01:52 AM) *
Do I think we'll play this?? Hell no! We'll play our 4-3-3 and get prison-r@ped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Like I feckin care. It's a group stage match. The last time Madrid beat us at the Bernabeu in the group stage, we ended up winning the CL final. Which just so happened to be in England. I'll take a 2 goal defeat, thank you very much! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I think we'll play the 4-3-1-2, no?
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post Oct 19 2010, 10:35 AM
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Listen... it's VERY SIMPLE...... Allegri better is going to start:

PATO, ZLATAN
Ronaldinho
Gattuso, Pirlo, Boateng
Antonini, ?????, Nesta, Zambrotta
Abbiati

Or I will be PISSED at him if I see Seedorf over Boateng !!!!!



Ok. Yup. That sounds like an excellent reason to start Boateng. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 19 2010, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2010, 02:35 AM) *
Ok. Yup. That sounds like an excellent reason to start Boateng. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) typical.

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post Oct 19 2010, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 19 2010, 02:44 PM) *
No no. Rino on Antonini's side to help him with C-Ron, allowing him to possibly push forward sometimes (which we'll need). Boateng on Zambro's side, where Zambro is more steady defensively, so Boa can be slightly more of a box to box.

Btw, selling Kaladze's left testicle isn't worth shiet. You must really not care about getting Ambro back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I agree he's got that special ingredient. But not for 90 mins he doesn't! Im not being harsh on Seedorf, in fact as stated in a previous post, I suggest, in fact want that he comes on later. Boateng IS capable of a cross field pass, and he can actually run! He won't be able to prove he's 'special' unless he actually plays in a 'special' game and proves he's worthy of the occasion!



Di Maria is not a player who holds back and helps defensively. He's an all out winger, and he won't be hanging around Khedira's holding midfield area much. He will be told to attack Zambro. At times, he will cut inside, and when he does Seedorf will not have the defensive positioning or legs to put him off. Boateng will. And I sense you don't rate Boateng's ability to maintain possession, but I'd charge that Boa has been as responsible with the ball when he's had it as anyone on our team this season. I know And I agree that CR will attack Antonini, which is why Rino should be on his side. Ramos won't be playing, which is all the more reason to let Rino handle defending, while letting Luca go forward when possible.



HAHA, wow to the first sentence. But speaking to the second sentence, Clarence and Pirlo won't be doing much (useful) defending, and we're not Barca. We can't keep the ball the entire match. We'll need players with legs! Don't you realize how much faster Ozil, Di Maria, Ronaldo, and Higuain are than Seedorf and Pirlo? If all of them raced, Seedorf and Pirlo would finish last every time.



I think we'll play the 4-3-1-2, no?


- Kaladze's left testicle was once kicked by Maldini's left boot during training. It would easily fetch a million on e-bay, if Britney's chewing gum is worth 100,000 USD.

- I don't want Rino to be forced onto one side. I wanted him centred to provide the safe pass outlet to the 2 mids.

- KPB can keep possession and can run. I argue that Zee's vision and passing, means he doesn't need to run much. I also feel that the way Madrid will shape up, we'll end up really missing Zee's creativity..and to keep him as a late sub, might be exactly that - LATE. Madrid will be 2 up by the 60th. I also think Prince's positioning is pretty bad. Hence why we see him running so much, coz he was in the wrong place to start off with. As a player he is very good. If he had the tactical nous to go along with it, he'd be a sure starter. But as of now, he isn't.

- If Mou could make Robben cover back at Chelsea, Di Maria is a piece of cake. That lad will not be tackling. He will be hustling to cut channels for R80.

- Missed the part of Ramos being out. THat's a blessed relief I suppose. Esp. since Antonini had a rather bad night against Chievo.

- If we're going to try and outrun Madrid, we should stop right now, coz we've lost. It's going to be stupid to try and play to their strengths. Ozil is (as in goal.com's 10 things funny post) dead by the 70th. Instead we should do to Madrid what Inter did to Barca. Let them run...but let them run where they can't cause any damage.

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Well....I didn't mean to be a jerk. Lol. It's just that Chu-Lip usually posts far more clear posts explaining his reasons. This one was unlike him..and I couldn't keep my sarcasm lid shut. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 19 2010, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 18 2010, 03:31 PM) *
Really? That's the two areas where I think we're weak actually.


I understand why you might feel that way, considering how much we changed shape in midfield via tactics since the start of the season.

Yet, let us take the Chievo game as a solid referance point; whereby Pirlo stated on acmilan.com on 17-OCT, and I quote:

Q) Which team does this Milan side remind you of?
A) "This team reminds me of Carlo Ancelotti’s Milan. Under him we played with an offensive midfielder just behind the strikers, it used to be Kakà or Rui Costa. Recently we have started to use this system again, like we did for years with great success. Hopefully, it will be a good omen.”

That said, during the first half against Chievo we played very narrowly down the pitch, and enforced a diamond midfield at the center; hence the Gattuso-Pirlo-Seedorf combination. This combination is very familiar with each other and have produced very good work rate when deployed together.


Why replace Seedorf with Prince? We don't need speed in the middle of the park, we need as much quality as we can get from that area of the pitch. Hence, I'd rather replace gattuso with Prince.
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Ok. He's on Speed again. Cower down and hide people. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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