[kurtsimonw]

He's as arrogant as a person can be.

No disagreement here, but it's a never-ending cycle. He's going to now be OTT arrogant after a win because people mock him when he loses. Because he's OTT arrogant after a win, people will mock him when he loses. Everyone's to blame!

It's not that same to say something to the media and say something in a forum or in a stadium anonymously... as great a coach as he is, I've never known anyone connected to football who's as classless as he is. And... he causes that... don't say it's because he's winning... Pep has been winning almost everything and I don't think anyone would react like this had Barcelona lost... you get what you deserve!

I think Jose has always had a chip on his shoulder. From how I see it, he's always resented the way he was treated at Barca, they basically looked down on him. That's where his drive comes from, the reason he feels to shove at back at everyone, in my opinion.

You see his reaction when they knocked Barca out at the Camp Nou last season? There's certainly something there, that's not something he does all the time.

He wasn't as bad as people made hime to be. Barca was just too strong. But the CL loss to Lyon was pretty bad.

Agreed. The loss against Lyon was down to Higuain too, he had some routine chances that he puts aay for fun in Spain and just missed them. Pelligrini just wasn't a big enough name for Madrid, which is a bit sad actually, your name should mean nothing.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Nov 30 2010, 12:01 AM

[dst]

I think Jose has always had a chip on his shoulder. From how I see it, he's always resented the way he was treated at Barca, they basically looked down on him. That's where his drive comes from, the reason he feels to shove at back at everyone, in my opinion.

You see his reaction when they knocked Barca out at the Camp Nou last season? There's certainly something there, that's not something he does all the time.

There's certainly something there from both sides but it all started when The Arrogant One was at Chelsea and they were playing Barcelona. That's when the Barcelona crowd turned against him, his comments and way of celebrating were not exactly... friendly.

[acid911]

No disagreement here, but it's a never-ending cycle. He's going to now be OTT arrogant after a win because people mock him when he loses. Because he's OTT arrogant after a win, people will mock him when he loses. Everyone's to blame!

Let's find out who started this in the first place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Mourinho when he got arrogant after a win, or people who mocked him after he lost. The thing about this guy is that he almost always has the last laugh. Most people who were in the anti-Mou camp earlier, not at least admit that he knows a thing or two about coaching.

But yeah, for some his over-the-top attitude is his charm, for others it is poison.

[dst]

Let's find out who started this in the first place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Mourinho when he got arrogant after a win, or people who mocked him after he lost. The thing about this guy is that he almost always has the last laugh. Most people who were in the anti-Mou camp earlier, not at least admit that he knows a thing or two about coaching.

Whoever does not admit The Arrogant One is a great coach just can't see past his hatred for him. There's no doubt he is great, not so tactically in my view, but in the way he manages the squad, the choices he makes on who's going to play and the mental aspect which is as important as anything in all of sports. His players are always fired up! But as a man he's **** and worthless. He's what has turned my away from football and in effect this forum, I just can't stand hear such praise for such a person.

[acid911]

There's no doubt he is great, not so tactically in my view, but in the way he manages the squad, the choices he makes on who's going to play and the mental aspect which is as important as anything in all of sports.

This. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I can name half a dozen better tacticians than him, but the guy knows how to manage a squad. Heck, he even helped turn our cross-town losers into treble winners. inter players take the credit too, but Mou was the main difference maker. The catalyst.

I am no way near a fan of him, though, I respect him for what he is, dislike him for what he does sometimes, and wish him Goodluck and Godspeed to stuff Barca where the sun doesn't shine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Really dislike that team and some of my least favorite players play there, starting with that "Prick of Pricks" Valdez.

He's what has turned my away from football and in effect this forum, I just can't stand hear such praise for such a person.

So very sorry to hear that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Anyway, now that he got his special treatment, I hope you come back online from now on. At least during and after the matches, if you are busy. Besides it never occurred to me blind love for Mourinho and his shenanigans here in Milanfan.

There's Blue, but then again he's Blue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The guy will probably find something funny in a scale-9 earthquake!

[Fillipo Simone]

Acid, your comment on Blue...leaves me no comment.

Haha, this Milanfan-Classico night shows all the richness of todays football. We've got everything, sceptics, optimists, pessimists, people who still can't surpass their World Cup bitterness, unstoppable haters and similary unstoppable fanboys, thinkers and doers. Very happy with reading all of your comments.

Nice to have you back dst - it's like taking a step back in time to a different era.

[Fishdoll]

The blind love for Mourinho is another of the big turn offs for me for this place. But anyway.....

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Asfaltato.

[kurtsimonw]

Mourinho post game comments

I suppose some will take this as being arrogant somehow.

[Ry4n]

Mourinho post game comments

I suppose some will take this as being arrogant somehow.

Good stuff shows the most arrogant people can have humility at times even in defeat, but i do strongly believe he does it all for the media and it tactically works with his "mind games" ect , he might be a different person at home who knows we all won't all im saying is people have there "work face's" and when they get home they relax and are a different person damn it sounds like im defending him lol i do despise his mind games but he does it well and gets under your skin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) , It really show his inept ability tacitcs wise to counter barcelona maybe hes met his match with Guardiola he did seem to have his tactics very well thought out shame it went to handbags at the end and who touted Ramos as the next "Maldini" can eat there words i saw a materazzi type player out there a sore loser... anyway the away trip to Madrid is marked on my calender , and i won't hide that im rooting for Barcelona to win (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) The fluidity in which Barca played with there high line was just football at its best i doubt we will see a game that perfect for one side and so utterly dismal for the other Madrid can get there pride back when they next play though but Barca i think is going to laud that over R.Madrid for along time to come hell we still do over inter 6-0 away never forget that one....do we

This post has been edited by Ry4n: Nov 30 2010, 05:45 AM

[Bluesummers]

it seems everyone wants a response out of me lol.


I'll be honest I haven't watched the game yet due to school and coaching going on in my own life but I have recorded the game and I will share my feelings after I watch it.


But what i have to say now is i'm shocked, no comments. Its almost impossible to believe.

you telling me mourinho losing 5-0 is like you telling me you saw a flying pig in the sky.

[Protagonist]

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Owned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

As a matter of fact, aside from Barca's 'out of this world' display, Madrid did not play as a team at all. When Mourinho was at Inter, he had a rock solid team that functioned as one unit. Sadly the same can not be said about Madrid last night. They were too reckless, very intimidated and divided amongst each other.

On hindsight, Madrid might have been handed an easier result to swallow had Mourinho opted for his famed 4-5-1. To close down the spaces in their own half and spring the counters is how he reached the final last season. Yet last night, it all went wrong; Madrid tried to close space at their own half, but Barca was so fluid and determined. I saw Messi running after defenders and snatching away ball after ball, the same could not be said of CR. That IMO was the reason why Barca won, and with such a huge margin.


Nevertheless, this result will serve as a catalyst for Mourinho to bring the best out of his team. Knowing they have hit rock bottom, there is only one way to go and that is up. It is too early to mention this, but if Mourinho does not deliver a trophy at the end of this season or receives another humiliating defeat in the return leg or in a Champions League Knock-out, I believe it will be the end of his journey with Madrid.

[dst]

Mourinho post game comments

I suppose some will take this as being arrogant somehow.

Okay so we now know that 5 are enough to shut this guy up! And I don't want to disappoint him (well I do) but this actually is a humiliation!

[Zed.D]

Owned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

As a matter of fact, aside from Barca's 'out of this world' display, Madrid did not play as a team at all. When Mourinho was at Inter, he had a rock solid team that functioned as one unit. Sadly the same can not be said about Madrid last night. They were too reckless, very intimidated and divided amongst each other.

On hindsight, Madrid might have been handed an easier result to swallow had Mourinho opted for his famed 4-5-1. To close down the spaces in their own half and spring the counters is how he reached the final last season. Yet last night, it all went wrong; Madrid tried to close space at their own half, but Barca was so fluid and determined. I saw Messi running after defenders and snatching away ball after ball, the same could not be said of CR. That IMO was the reason why Barca won, and with such a huge margin.


Nevertheless, this result will serve as a catalyst for Mourinho to bring the best out of his team. Knowing they have hit rock bottom, there is only one way to go and that is up. It is too early to mention this, but if Mourinho does not deliver a trophy at the end of this season or receives another humiliating defeat in the return leg or in a Champions League Knock-out, I believe it will be the end of his journey with Madrid.

The truest post since last night!

I think Mourinho needs more time. he didn't do anything particular with Inter in his first season either.. got easily eliminated by Man U and we all were "haha Inter will never win the CL". less than 12 months and they eliminate Chelsea and Barca and win the thing for the first time in almost half a century. so it was never gonna be easy for him in his first el classico. definitely not justifying the result, 5-0 is a humiliation and must not have happened, but a loss was expected. as Mourinho said himself, Barca are a finished product, Real are still in the building process. I think the return game at Bernabeu will be very different.

I've always believed he's a great coach (in the way dst explained) and always will. every great coach has lost like this some times. his personality and attitude is another thing and I like everyone else despise it and always want to see him lose these games cause it makes me feel good! but bottom line is, they guy usually has the last laugh... we won't forget that after his time at Inter.

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It was the heaviest defeat that a Mourinho-led team had ever suffered in a league match

Hm...

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 30 2010, 10:19 AM

[Fillipo Simone]

Okay so we now know that 5 are enough to shut this guy up! And I don't want to disappoint him (well I do) but this actually is a humiliation!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Worst thing is how low Madrid fell yesterday - and that was not when they already conceeded; they tried to deceave the referee and the people watching. All these small dirty tricks, unnescessary reactions, etc.

[Ry4n]

Owned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I believe it will be the end of his journey with Madrid.

I beg to differ they will stick with him regardless of a trophyless season Peres will let him build and get the team sorted like he did at inter...