[Jack Sparrow]

I rate Fergie as a manager. As a coach/tactician not so much. Few managers have been given the kind of carte blanche that Fergie has at Man U. Mourinho at Chelsea is an exception. And he's worshipped by the Man U fans, who give him enough and more leeway. Plenty of his dry runs have been forgiven.

I personally feel that plays a huge role in the success of a club. How much latitude you have from your management? I think that's why Carlo's loving Chelsea life right now.

[kurtsimonw]

Fergie isn't really liked by the hardcore United fans much at all. There's been a couple of times they've started poorly, with a few losses or draws and they've basically used it as an excuse to get rid. They hate the fact he likes the Glazers too. But like I said, he did exceptional at Aberdeen, winning the title is one thing, but to win a European trophy with Aberdeen?

If we're talking tactician, then there's even more reason to lower Ancelotti and more reason to have Hiddink in the list.

[Jack Sparrow]

Fergie isn't really liked by the hardcore United fans much at all. There's been a couple of times they've started poorly, with a few losses or draws and they've basically used it as an excuse to get rid. They hate the fact he likes the Glazers too. But like I said, he did exceptional at Aberdeen, winning the title is one thing, but to win a European trophy with Aberdeen?

If we're talking tactician, then there's even more reason to lower Ancelotti and more reason to have Hiddink in the list.

Bah. Jose won it with Porto. The Cup Winner's Cup is kinda odd. Like Filippo said, it's only recently with the CL that it became really competitive. But credit to him. I think he's the best football manager around definitely. Probably up there with Shankly et al.

Hiddink, I don't really rate. He puts out well drilled teams a la Mourinho...that I accept. But there's nothing in there that makes me go wow! His club record isn't that great. He's done well with PSV..but only just. Not to say he's a bad coach...but he's not my personal favourite.

For me, I don't really rank coaches, since it's such a personal thing based on your preference. Mourinho's a great coach, but I couldn't support a side that play football the way his teams do.

At the same time, the tiki-taka of Barca is so over hyped, I don't fancy it as well. I like to see teams that can mix it up. It's why I love Carlo's team. They can switch from a Bach symphony to Scandinavian death metal depending on the mood of the match.

But it's personal. Other people like different kinds of football. Some people just prefer a coach who wins. So obviously their choices differ.

[kurtsimonw]

Fair enough. It's weird how people can see things so differently, you feel Carlo is great at switching things up, I feel his biggest defficiency as a manager is not having any Plan B. It's a funny old game.

[Jack Sparrow]

Well the perspective with people who criticise Carlo is they all focus on his last 2-3 years in Milan. Which kinda shadows his first 5, when he actually had active support from the management.

I don't mean he switches things all the time in play. The best way to look at what I'm saying is to compare the way Milan (2002-2005) and Chelsea (present) play.

They don't play the same way ditto (that Milan's technical quality was out of this world with Rui-Sheva-Zee-Pirlo), but you notice a certain similar fluency in both sides.

You'll never hear this Chelsea complain like Arsenal about Bolton/Blackpool's tackles. They'll drill through it and come off with a one-goal, two goal win. But at the same time if you want to take them on in 'propah football' they'll step up and still rip you a new one - And the personnel will never change.

That's what I mean by team versatility. It was there for 'that' Milan as well. I mean, you knew what was coming; you know you were coming up against the 4-3-1-2...but that was that. You could park out your team jet or set all your guns blazing...but it wouldn't make a difference.

Cafu/Stam----Nesta---Maldini----Sergio/Kaladze
-----------Rino-----Pirlo-----Seedorf-------------
------------------Rui Costa------------------------
-------------Sheva--------------------------------
-------------------------Pippo---------------------

One of my most favourite Milan XIs ever. Man..what a player Rui was! And we hadn't even gotten him at his prime.

[Fillipo Simone]

van Gaal in the top 5, no Hiddink?

Wait, why Hiddink over van Gaal? You do know van Gaal is much much more successfull? Hiddink just can't win gold.

[kurtsimonw]

Hiddinks achievments are better than van Gaals, in my opnion. Though I don't count Hiddink's South Korea as an achievment.

[Fillipo Simone]

Hiddinks achievments are better than van Gaals, in my opnion. Though I don't count Hiddink's South Korea as an achievment.

But van Gaal reached the final of the Champions League with Bayern, won with Ajax, also played the semis with Barcelona.

[kurtsimonw]

Hiddink won it with PSV, van Gaal has rarely managed a 'small' club either, just AZ that I can think of, while Hiddink has overachieved both at club and International level. van Gaal's only attempt at International management failed quite badly.

[Zed.D]

Both are great coaches.

[acid911]

True that, ZD. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'd have to think really hard to pick one ahead of the other. Both are good!

[Bluesummers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzNYstaAh0


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[d'Arc.LP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzNYstaAh0


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[Bluesummers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FabhmafWKyI...feature=channel

[Woorya]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FabhmafWKyI...feature=channel

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