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 Video Replay (in Football), Your opinion on contentious decisions... |
 Nov 20 2009, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 20 2009, 09:04 PM)  Nobody knows about it, nor cares. Because we're the bad guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) You in particular are just pathetic. |
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Nov 21 2009, 03:57 AM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 20 2009, 08:27 PM) You in particular are just pathetic. You am ****, son. |
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Nov 21 2009, 04:04 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Overall I'm leanining towards the 'bad luck is part of football' side of things. I also think the Irish are making a huge deal out of it. Worse incidents have happened, see: Koeman vs England - USA '94 qualifer, but stuff like this happens and it's very unfortunate. Poor Ireland, but move on.
I see Henry came out and said the only fair thing to happen would be for the game to be replayed. I used to respect this guy a tonne, but he cheated and he knows it. He also knows there is 0% chance of the game being replayed, which is why he's making these comments to look like the good guy. Suspend the cheat. |
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Nov 21 2009, 06:40 AM
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Dida per sempre Group: Full Members Posts: 4,198 Joined: 25-February 07 From: St. Francis Member No.: 3,563 |
QUOTE (Kurt) I see Henry came out and said the only fair thing to happen would be for the game to be replayed. I used to respect this guy a tonne, but he cheated and he knows it. He also knows there is 0% chance of the game being replayed, which is why he's making these comments to look like the good guy. Suspend the cheat. Please. He wants the match replayed as much as you and I need a hole in the head. According to the Wall Street Journal, the incident likely won't affect his endorsements. It's not as if scruples has ever taken precedence over money, anyway. |
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Nov 21 2009, 08:24 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 21 2009, 04:57 AM) You am ****, son. Should I have used 'is'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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Nov 21 2009, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 20 2009, 10:34 PM) It's hard to introduce into football though, because 99% of decisions are opinion based, which a video can't sort out. I thin handballs and 'did it cross the line?' things are the only things it could really sort out. It should jut be used on goals if it were to be bought in. Offsides, handballs and deciding whether it crossed the line or not being the only reviewable aspects. Even if there was a blatent foul that the ref missed, that shouldn't matter on the vide, in my opinion. Those 3 are more than enough reasons to bring the technology to football, IMO. And I agree that this technology could be used in favor of big teams, but not if it's used only for those 3 cases. QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 20 2009, 10:54 PM) Yeah, I think with an extra official there then no way in hell does Henry get away with those handballs. The linesman CLEARLY saw what Henry did but didn't raise his flag. I don't see how with a fourth official it would've been any different! QUOTE (Protagonist @ Nov 20 2009, 10:57 PM) Yes, it is really bad that we qualify from such an incident. I mean, after all we have been consistent in reach two finals in the last three WCs. There is a blog on Football Italia that debates this incident evened out what happened in the 2006 World Cup final - where the fourth official reviewed the film and told the ref what Zidane did. I can't disagree... cause even though Zidane deserved to be sent off, he shouldn't have been simply because neither the ref nor his assistant saw it. of course it's not, as stated, "Karma payback". the Irish didn't have anything to do with all this and still don't get what they deserve, but I think it'd be an acceptable excuse for the French. This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 21 2009, 11:03 AM |
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Nov 21 2009, 02:35 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Nov 21 2009, 12:01 PM) The linesman CLEARLY saw what Henry did but didn't raise his flag. I don't see how with a fourth official it would've been any different! Well there is a tiny possibility that the linesman blacked out or blinked and did not see it... with two people there, if neither of them spots it, you can be dead sure they had been told to ignore it... QUOTE (Zed.D @ Nov 21 2009, 12:01 PM) There is a blog on Football Italia that debates this incident evened out what happened in the 2006 World Cup final - where the fourth official reviewed the film and told the ref what Zidane did. I can't disagree... cause even though Zidane deserved to be sent off, he shouldn't have been simply because neither the ref nor his assistant saw it. of course it's not, as stated, "Karma payback". the Irish didn't have anything to do with all this and still don't get what they deserve, but I think it'd be an acceptable excuse for the French. This is so ridiculous I feel like that myself by responding to it. I don't see how these two are related... it was a correct decision to send off Zidane and it was an injustice not to allow that goal... how the hell are these two being put in the same context? I don't care if it was an astronaut out in space that saw it and called the ref to tell him, Zidane headbutted his opponent and should have been sent off it's as simple as that. What these guys are saying in my view is "we were not favored in Zidane's case and for that (...) we deserve to go away with a cheat"... if you told me I'd go away with killing the guy who thought of this I'd do it. It would be the population of the Earth minus a retard... @ Kurt: come on, tell me should I have said 'is'? I want to know. |
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Nov 21 2009, 02:57 PM
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They are related. both have something to do with the French.
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Nov 21 2009, 03:22 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 21 2009, 01:35 PM) @ Kurt: come on, tell me should I have said 'is'? I want to know. What are you talking about? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE (Zed.D @ Nov 21 2009, 01:57 PM) They are related. both have something to do with the French. I'm with you on this. The only reason Zidane was sent off is by outside help (not a decision by either linesman or the referee), so in theory he should have stayed on. I'm going with the 'football is fixed' thing for this. |
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Nov 21 2009, 03:26 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Nov 21 2009, 03:57 PM) They are related. both have something to do with the French. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 21 2009, 04:22 PM) What are you talking about? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I said "You in particular are just pathetic." and you replied with "You am ****, son.". I thought you said "you am" to make fun of a grammatical error of mine in the first sentence? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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Nov 21 2009, 03:46 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 21 2009, 02:26 PM) I said "You in particular are just pathetic." and you replied with "You am ****, son.". I thought you said "you am" to make fun of a grammatical error of mine in the first sentence? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Oohh. No, just a regional thing, sometimes we say 'am' instead of 'are'. |
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Nov 21 2009, 04:06 PM
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You am?! (IMG:http://img2.tinypic.info/files/sknn4nafgfgp2ycv6kpa.gif)
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Nov 21 2009, 04:56 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Nov 21 2009, 03:06 PM) You am?! (IMG:http://img2.tinypic.info/files/sknn4nafgfgp2ycv6kpa.gif) Yes. Everybody has their graamatical errors in the way they talk though! The one that does me is when Americans say stuff like "I hope West Ham wins today" Win, not wins! This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Nov 21 2009, 04:59 PM |
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Nov 21 2009, 05:24 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 21 2009, 04:46 PM) Oohh. No, just a regional thing, sometimes we say 'am' instead of 'are'. For some reason I like to know this stuff, thanks. QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 21 2009, 05:56 PM) Everybody has their graamatical errors in the way they talk though! The one that does me is when Americans say stuff like "I hope West Ham wins today" Win, not wins! Couldn't this not be an error? I mean... I think of it as using 'wins' when referring to the team as a unit while using win while referring to the group of people that constitute the team. In that sense, it's not wrong is it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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Nov 21 2009, 05:32 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 21 2009, 04:24 PM) For some reason I like to know this stuff, thanks. Couldn't this not be an error? I mean... I think of it as using 'wins' when referring to the team as a unit while using win while referring to the group of people that constitute the team. In that sense, it's not wrong is it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I disagree, it sounds stupid, in my opinion. But like I said, people talk differently. |
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