[han2503]

Kaka did warmups and running with the team but didn't do the practice game. The other guys who aren't fully fit (Ambro, Pirlo, Seedorf, Ronaldinho) did do the full training.

As for the Gobbi, Sissoko skipped their training today.

Hopefully he'll be out for them, we need something to swing our way and them losing Sissoko gives me hope that we'll win the midfield battle

As for Kaka, any news?

If both he and Dinho are out we are so screwed!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by han2503: Dec 12 2008, 05:19 PM

[vnata001]

we gave juventus such a tough game in turin last year with that weakened wobbly squad we had..inzaghi on the double. Kalac allowed two soft Juve goals. We're a better squad..and we're a big game squad. The trend has been beat the inters, napolis, etc..draw the lecces. It's been the way we've been for a few seasons.

We will come out firing. If we score first the match is ours, cuz against big teams (i hope), we won't have those drop offs in concentration. we held on against inter for a 1-0 match..I am NOT convinced by Juve's midfield and we can stretch them if Pato plays off another striker.

Kaka and Ronaldinho will play, and score. Kaka will open the scoring. Kaladze will allow Del Piero to equalize from the spot for a handball as he clumsily tries to stop amauri from heading the ball..and RONALDINHO will be the match winner. from the set piece. Sheva may just make the scoreline flattering.

FORZA MILAN. I FEEL A BIG WIN. FORZA MATCHES whose threads are started by acid. have faith.

This post has been edited by vnata001: Dec 12 2008, 07:25 PM

[TriniKing_CE]

That would make a GREAT game for me^
Kaka, Dinho & Sheva scoring
...and Del too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
3-1: FANTASTIC!

I'm not so sure this would be the outcome, but I wouldn't cross it off either!

[Rossoneri7]

I think we won't win. and if we don't, I'd rather we lose so someone can chase Inter! because no matter what people say, I think the losing team will be out of the title race, period. (given that the 1st placed team beats the 20th placed team in the other game!)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Statistically, they have the best defense after Inter.

They have conceded 3 goals less than us and Chiellini is arguably better than any of our defenders right now, let alone the rest of Serie A teams'.

Don't know where this personal opinion comes from... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Well it doesn't come from stats zd ... it comes from me knowing the capabilities Milan has upfront, and thus not being worried about the Juve defense ... Hence the notion i dont find the Juve defense any stronger than most Serie A teams

[han2503]

Talking about Juve's defence I'm personally on R7's side on this one

To me saying a great defence means that at least your CB pairing needs to be top quality and nowadays few teams have that, imo only Chelsea and Man U with Terry/Carvalho and Rio/Vidic can say they have a great defence.

Just having one great CB does not make the defence great, there will always be your Kaladzes, Materazzis, etc that could cost you. Juve have Chiellini and probably Mellberg will be playing next to him, (kurt is going to kill me for this but...) I think gaps will be left because Mellberg will be the weak link, I'm not saying he's a bad defender, he's had some really good games with Juve up till now but he's not of the same quality as Chiellini. This imo gives us a better chance at scoring.

Having said that I'm more worried about our defence, Kaladze most likely will touch the ball with his had in the area because for some reason he thinks we're playing valleyball now instead of football, I would be far more comfortable seeing Favalli start instead of him. Maldini is still great but if he doesn'r read a play perfectly and intercepts, he doesn't have the pace to run back, so he really needs to play out of his skin and once again defy his age for us because atm he is the best defender we have.

As for formation I would personally like to see this

Zambro--Maldini--Favalli--Janku
Ambro--Flamini--Seedorf
Kaka
Sheva--Pato

But I know Carlo will go for this

Zambro--Maldini--Kala--Janku
Ambro--Emerson--Seedorf
Kaka--Dinho
Pippo

I don't think Pippo should start. We need Pato up there to run at their defenders and make their lives as uncomfortable as he possibly can, Chiellini will eat Pippo up if he plays alone in the xmas tree. It would be useless to put him against Chiellini, he would beat him on everything, pace, heading, strength, stamina. We need Pato up there so he can ruffle a few feathers and allow Dinho/Sheva and Kaka more space

This post has been edited by han2503: Dec 12 2008, 10:35 PM

[kurtsimonw]

To me saying a great defence means that at least your CB pairing needs to be top quality and nowadays few teams have that, imo only Chelsea and Man U with Terry/Carvalho and Rio/Vidic can say they have a great defence.

Funny that, very few seem to rate Rio and JT, good to see them actually getting praise for a change!

(kurt is going to kill me for this but...) I think gaps will be left because Mellberg will be the weak link, I'm not saying he's a bad defender, he's had some really good games with Juve up till now but he's not of the same quality as Chiellini. This imo gives us a better chance at scoring.

I think it depends who plays up front for us. Mellberg never had problems with less quick guys or tall guys, so I can't see Pippo or Sheva doing him much damage. The people he struggled with are the small quick ones like Defoe or Rooney when he was in the EPL. So Pato is the best choice to try and beat Mellberg, in my opinion.

But like you said, I think we need to worry about keeping goals out more than we do scoring, we really are not having a good time of it at CB. I think we'll play Maldini and Kaladze in the middle. I don't mind Kaladze in the big games because he does play well.. as long as he doesn't make a big mistake.

I stick by my 3-2 Juve prediction, I just can't see us keeping them out and if we're not playing well going forward, it may be very one-sided. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Tennie]

I'd prefer to see Pippo play some part of the game, contrary to most, because he has a knack of scoring against the Gobbi. Maybe start Pato and bring Pippo on partway through the second.

This is the lineup I'd like to see:
Abbiati
Zambrotta Kaladze Maldini Jankulovski
Flamini Pirlo Ambrosini
Ronaldinho Seedorf
Pato/Pippo

As for the Gobbi, I'm wondering how much fatigue may be an issue. Grygera, Molinaro, Nedved all played the full 90 of their CL game. Del Piero and Amauri played significant chunks. (Chiellini was rested). Sissoko didn't train today due to a bad cold. I expect all these guys to start - and am frankly surprised more of them weren't fully rested on Wednesday.

[Habitant]

juve forum: "All the tickets have been sold out ."

damn i'm jsut itching to say :"thats a first"

[Tennie]

Aww, now Habitant, Milan's only an hour away from Turin by train. Wouldn't be THAT hard for 20K Milan fans to make the trip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Habitant]

excellent point! i just cant wait to get posting rights, i'm gathering my thoughts as to what i'm going to say and not say so that i'm not banned right off the bat.

[Tennie]

Anyway, maybe the Gobbi fans are afraid that Maldinosaurus will eat the stadium or something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Habitant]

should i refer to camo are cameltoeresi?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Tennie]

Haha. Good one. Nedved is deserving of a nickname too. Hrm. Does 'Barbie' work for him?

[Habitant]

del queero

trezegay is too easy

[Habitant]

i just posted some stuff on match thread, lets see how they respond...