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post Nov 7 2008, 04:06 AM
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Fox Soccer Report is showing all the EPL teams' UEFA Cup highlights first. Idiots.
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post Nov 7 2008, 04:07 AM
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QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 7 2008, 03:06 AM) *
Fox Soccer Report is showing all the EPL teams' UEFA Cup highlights first. Idiots.

Hey! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Maybe it's because we have an American keeper, or two. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 7 2008, 04:09 AM
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Will they even show the other highlights?(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You should know, Miz, that football doesn't exist outside England as far as that show's concerned - except as a place where English teams win, buy players from, or point fingers at as a place where they always dive (just ask Steven Gerrard).

(Fishdoll is NOT a fan of the Fox Soccer Report).

EDIT for those fortunate enough never to have seen the Fox Soccer Report: half of the 60 minute show is usually devoted to English stuff. The other half is devoted to the rest of the world. Where we learn important things like Fiorentina plays in Spain. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The above comment wasn't me ranting about the EPL, it was me ranting about the bias of that show, which annoys me greatly.

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post Nov 7 2008, 05:38 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 6 2008, 07:07 PM) *
Maybe it's because we have an American keeper, or two. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 7 2008, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 6 2008, 11:23 PM) *
Assuming we get into the knockout stage, I imagine the club will start taking the games seriously the spring.

Agreed, Carlo is basically treating these group games and qualifiers as Coppa games. I tend to agree with him, right now not losing silly points in the league is the most important thing.

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 6 2008, 11:28 PM) *
They've always said, don't count on 1-goal leads in football. we've been lucky overall to come off the games as winners on so many occasions where we scored only one more goal than our opponents!

We're Serie A leaders and we have scored only 15 goals in 10 matches. ((IMG:http://qsmile.com/qsimages/292.gif) )

Compare it with the EPL leaders Chelsea: 27 goals in 11 games

And La Liga leaders Barca: 28 goals in 9 games

That's what I call a big disappointment for Milan. only Carlo's tactics are to blame as he has more than enough attacking players to choose from and yet he always aims for the minimum. 1-0, 2-1 wins.

To be fair zd, those 2 teams you mentioned play in leagues that cannot be compared to Serie A in the slightest when it comes to defending. I like watching a lot of Man U, Chelsea and Barca games, the way the smaller teams in particular defend against these teams is disgraceful. No wonder C.Ronaldo scores over 30 goals in a season, he always has acres upon acres of space to run into, he goes into the opposition's box without being challenged and takes a shot, which usually goes in because the goalkeeper is 9 times out of 10 completly cr@p. He wouldn't last a month in Serie A

Chelsea last weekend (I think they played Hull) everytime they passed the ball to either Anelka, Cole or Malouda they were up there all on their own with the oppositions defence MIA. I mean for Anelka to score a hattrick should be telling enough.

I'm not defending Carlo or his hardheadded ways regarding all the defensive tactics, you know how I feel about him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . But sometimes you can't simply just look at the numbers and make a conclusion from just that. In Serie A you have even relegation battlers who know how to defend well and won't let you just walk all over them like in La Liga or the EPL

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post Nov 7 2008, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2008, 02:33 PM) *
Agreed, Carlo is basically treating these group games and qualifiers as Coppa games. I tend to agree with him, right now not losing silly points in the league is the most important thing.


To be fair zd, those 2 teams you mentioned play in leagues that cannot be compared to Serie A in the slightest when it comes to defending. I like watching a lot of Man U, Chelsea and Barca games, the way the smaller teams in particular defend against these teams is disgraceful. No wonder C.Ronaldo scores over 30 goals in a season, he always has acres upon acres of space to run into, he goes into the opposition's box without being challenged and takes a shot, which usually goes in because the goalkeeper is 9 times out of 10 completly cr@p. He wouldn't last a month in Serie A

Chelsea last weekend (I think they played Hull) everytime they passed the ball to either Anelka, Cole or Malouda they were up there all on their own with the oppositions defence MIA. I mean for Anelka to score a hattrick should be telling enough.

I'm not defending Carlo or his hardheadded ways regarding all the defensive tactics, you know how I feel about him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . But sometimes you can't simply just look at the numbers and make a conclusion from just that. In Serie A you have even relegation battlers who know how to defend well and won't let you just walk all over them like in La Liga or the EPL


Let's look at it the other way around. number of goals conceded by bottom table teams:


Bottom 5 teams of EPL have conceded 73 goals in 11 matches.
Bottom 5 teams of Serie A have conceded 85 in 10 matches.


To be honest I don't know what I should think about this! you tell me why those disgraceful defenses have conceded much less goals (while they've played one more matchday) than those bottom table teams in Serie A, that like you said won't let bigger sides walk all over them?

[No offense to EPL lovers but] you know I dislike this league for the way its teams play [though they've improved a lot recently]. I'm not defending it, I'm just trying to be logical. yes, statistics don't tell everything, but they're not completely useless either.
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 7 2008, 11:37 AM) *
Let's look at it the other way around. number of goals conceded by bottom table teams:


Bottom 5 teams of EPL have conceded 73 goals in 11 matches.
Bottom 5 teams of Serie A have conceded 85 in 10 matches.


To be honest I don't know what I should think about this! you tell me why those disgraceful defenses have conceded much less goals (while they've played one more matchday) than those bottom table teams in Serie A, that like you said won't let bigger sides walk all over them?

[No offense to EPL lovers but] you know I dislike this league for the way its teams play [though they've improved a lot recently]. I'm not defending it, I'm just trying to be logical. yes, statistics don't tell everything, but they're not completely useless either.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Lower table teams have conceeded that much goals already?

I certainly don't remember any of the top 4 trash them this way. Those conceeded goals must have come from games played against eachother, you know the usual run of the mill 3-2 or 2-2 draws. But I can't recall any of the top teams walking all over them and scoring 5 goals as easily as Man U and Chelsea have been doing. Smaller sides usually open up much more against eachother in Serie A then they would against the bigger teams.

Inter haven't been scoring bucket loads, neither have Juve or us (not counting Roma so far because as of now they were a mess)

I still stand by what I believe though I like watching both leagues and the way big teams walk all over the lower table ones in the EPL would never happen in Serie A.
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post Nov 7 2008, 09:57 PM
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the way big teams walk all over the lower table ones in the EPL would never happen in Serie A.


I wouldn't say 'never', but rarely.
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post Nov 7 2008, 10:00 PM
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What a goal! Well done R20!

But what an ugly Milan! Well I did not expect anything more after I saw the line-up but still... Such a display is normal when the players expected to create (the midfielders; Gattuso, Emerson, Flamini and the full-backs; Antonini, Jankulovski) are average technically... when I saw Seedorf warming up I almost jumped off my seat from happiness! Damn, I miss Pirlo...

Senderos... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) He is crap but he has such a funny face and I can't get mad at him... but boy he is slow! In fact he is so slow he makes softcore porn look rapidly hardcore! He barely managed to stop his opponents, BRAGA PLAYERS, at full stretch! I am so privileged to have watched the duo of Kaladzity Jane and the retarded brother of Flash Gordon...
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 7 2008, 09:57 PM) *
I wouldn't say 'never', but rarely.

Ok saying never was exxagerating it on my part. But as you said it rarely happens.

QUOTE (dst @ Nov 7 2008, 10:00 PM) *
What a goal! Well done R20!

But what an ugly Milan! Well I did not expect anything more after I saw the line-up but still... Such a display is normal when the players expected to create (the midfielders; Gattuso, Emerson, Flamini and the full-backs; Antonini, Jankulovski) are average technically... when I saw Seedorf warming up I almost jumped off my seat from happiness! Damn, I miss Pirlo...

Senderos... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) He is crap but he has such a funny face and I can't get mad at him... but boy he is slow! In fact he is so slow he makes softcore porn look rapidly hardcore! He barely managed to stop his opponents, BRAGA PLAYERS, at full stretch! I am so privileged to have watched the duo of Kaladzity Jane and the retarded brother of Flash Gordon...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You're killing me over here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Kaladzity Jane / retarded brother of Flash Gordon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Ok saying never was exxagerating it on my part. But as you said it rarely happens.


But agree that there's not much the will to do so. IF Milan really want to attack and score +3 goals against a Siena type team for example, it can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) don't believe Carlo's bullsh1t about how these teams are unbreakable! that word should not even exist in Milan's dictionary...

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ANOTHER SEVEN YEARS LIKE THIS

11/6/2008 11:59:00 PM

After seven years on the Rossoneri's bench, Carlo Ancelotti is happy with the target reached and proposes himself for another: "That of tonight was the first game of the next seven years."

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MILAN - These are the declarations of the Rossoneri's coach Carlo Ancelotti at the end of Milan-Braga 1-0:

"Tonight we found it very difficult, but it was predictable because Braga is an unknown team, but with excellent qualities, who play with order and we are forced to adapt to a different game system. In the first half Milan played well, the attackers on the pitch were very quick. In particular Pato and Shevchenko did well, then in the second half we had some difficulties.

"Seven years have passed since I arrived on the Milan bench. The first seven came to an end, that of tonight was the first match of the next seven years. The first game was in Coppa Italia against Perugia which we won 3-0. Even tonight we are away from the league and we start with a win, hoping that in the future there are other Champions Cups to win.

"Gattuso is an extraordinary player, his presence is very important, especially right now that he's fine. He feels as the leader of this group. Even Ronaldinho was fantastic, he's a player we can expect everything from, and from the practical point of view he was important because he has already scored five goals.

"For the first time tonight, Kaladze and Senderos were on the pitch as the central duo. It was an important performance, despite the condition not being optimial, but I'm happy.

"On Sunday we shall go to Lecce, it will be a difficult game and for this reason we have tried to rest some players and at the same time give more minutes to others."


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post Nov 8 2008, 11:51 AM
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Egad. Sorry, Carlo, as much as you like to think you're SAF, you're not. Accept it as fact.

If there's one match in this group stage I'm looking forward to, it's Portsmouth; I really hope we wax them like a set of cheap candles. The English birdcage liners will probably engage in an orgy of Dida/David James jokes and building up the valiant Pompey against the Evil Empire of Milan in the week leading up to the match. After an 0-0 draw, it'll be hailed as their best European effort ever. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 8 2008, 01:51 PM) *
Egad. Sorry, Carlo, as much as you like to think you're SAF, you're not. Accept it as fact.

If there's one match in this group stage I'm looking forward to, it's Portsmouth; I really hope we wax them like a set of cheap candles. The English birdcage liners will probably engage in an orgy of Dida/David James jokes and building up the valiant Pompey against the Evil Empire of Milan in the week leading up to the match. After an 0-0 draw, it'll be hailed as their best European effort ever. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


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QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 8 2008, 03:51 PM) *
Egad. Sorry, Carlo, as much as you like to think you're SAF, you're not. Accept it as fact.

If there's one match in this group stage I'm looking forward to, it's Portsmouth; I really hope we wax them like a set of cheap candles. The English birdcage liners will probably engage in an orgy of Dida/David James jokes and building up the valiant Pompey against the Evil Empire of Milan in the week leading up to the match. After an 0-0 draw, it'll be hailed as their best European effort ever.

Agree with everything! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) I think if we play anything near to our full strength squad (not the Serie A squad, just a better and balanced UEFA Cup team, unlike last match) Portsmouth doesn't stand a chance.
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 7 2008, 01:39 AM) *

Who knew it'd be the same story again? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Only the uniform changed into white, with the cast remaining the same, both Gattuso and Ronaldinho! Hope it keeps up!
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