[dst]

Some lol attribution:

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) @ all the Inter players that have mocked Ronaldinho over the past few months. Even if he disappears, they still paid for their words!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) @ Carletto for his changes and the physical condition of the team. Inter were awful until the 60th minute when our physical problems began to show while his changes allowed them to come forward!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) @ Mourinho for his comments about Milan players faking injury. Open your mouth, taste defeat and then shut it Josephine!
And a long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) @ those who said Maldini is finished. He's still great and he'll stay for as long as he wishes to, learn to like it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It was a good game from Milan until the hour mark... I think maybe a draw would be a fairer result but in these games a single goal usually makes the difference and this time it was Milan that scored it.
Apart from the offside that was not given I think the officiating was excellent, I say that because some suggest (not only here) that the refs handed us the game which is absolutely ridiculous! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Seedorf was truly amazing. I think this was his best game in recent years. Gattuso was great too. No matter how bad this guy was last season (and he was bad!) he has offered a lot to Milan and he should at least be shown some respect (this goes to Kurt)! Against Inter (and since the beginning of the season) he has justified why he is still a Milan player...
Kaka and Ronaldinho also were very good. I could not believe how happy the buck-toothed fatass was after scoring!
Ancelotti should really do something about the team's physical condition... it's a joke! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
From Inter, Zanetti was very good and Zlatan, as always, their best player! The Swede is a beast. Adriano almost nailed it, he helped change the flow of the game - not more than Ancelotti of course.

To conclude...
Yeah ***** we won! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Sep 30 2008, 06:30 PM

[PatitoFeo]

Yeah I agree Gattuso had a good game - at first I thought he looked a bit out of control, but his fouls did break up any rhythm Inter had and he covered a lot of ground.

[Mook]

Although Kaka' was offside, the two inter players just sat off him and allowed him to pick his pass to Dinho. That goal could have been easily prevented but there was no pressure from I think Chivu and Quaresma. So the last thing Mourinho should be worried about is the offside decision costing them.

As far as the penalty shouts went, if the Adriano one was given so should have been the one on Kaka'. FACT.

[Zed.D]

And a long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) @ those who said Maldini is finished. He's still great and he'll stay for as long as he wishes to, learn to like it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If he can put such performance in all games, by all means. he can play until his 50 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) thing is, he was at fault on the first two goals we conceded against Bologna and Genoa, both resulted in defeat, -6 points. now that's a lot for a player like Maldini. you can call me whatever you want, but I for one can't disregard those mistakes because he had a spectacular game against Inter.

[dst]

If he can put such performance in all games, by all means. he can play until his 50 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) thing is, he was at fault on the first two goals we conceded against Bologna and Genoa, both resulted in defeat, -6 points. now that's a lot for a player like Maldini. you can call me whatever you want, but I for one can't disregard those mistakes because he had a spectacular game against Inter.

I will agree that he had a disastrous game against Genoa (even without the penalty) but he was not at fault for Bologna's goal. You always defend Pato no matter what but defense is my area... he did just what he had to do, he tried to trap Di Vaio to an offside and if it wasn't for you-know-who and his kaladzities we would not be talking about it now... Kakha was not only keeping him onside but he failed to tackle the ball away from him too, I really can't see how Maldini can be blamed for this.

This post has been edited by dst: Oct 7 2008, 07:33 PM

[PatitoFeo]

Yeah it seems like Kad just does not have the same soccer understanding. What is teh word in Italian for a defender to tell the others to step up? In English u shout "step" and in spanish you shout "fuera"

[Jack Sparrow]

^^

I don't know about Italy...but in Milan- Baresi would raise his hand. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[acid911]

I will agree that he had a disastrous game against Genoa (even without the penalty) but he was not at fault for Bologna's goal. You always defend Pato no matter what but defense is my area... he did just what he had to do, he tried to trap Di Vaio to an offside and if it wasn't for you-know-who and his kaladzities we would not be talking about it now... Kakha was not only keeping him onside but he failed to tackle the ball away from him too, I really can't see how Maldini can be blamed for this.

(IMG:http://i35.tinypic.com/4ztitw.gif)
Finally someone stands up to tell the truth!

[Zed.D]

I will agree that he had a disastrous game against Genoa (even without the penalty) but he was not at fault for Bologna's goal. You always defend Pato no matter what but defense is my area... he did just what he had to do, he tried to trap Di Vaio to an offside and if it wasn't for you-know-who and his kaladzities we would not be talking about it now... Kakha was not only keeping him onside but he failed to tackle the ball away from him too, I really can't see how Maldini can be blamed for this.

I'm talking about one of the best defenders ever, who made quite a few costly mistakes in the first two games. what has "Pato" got to do with this?...

There's no use in arguing about a goal that we conceded on the first matchday... but the picture below speaks louder than words I suppose.

See Angle 1 and Angle 2's third and fourth pictures. of course the mistake is more obvious when you watch the scene. because pictures can't show how slow the ball passed before Paolo's eyes.

Also see Kaladze. a slight touch was enough for Di Vaio to dive all over the place and the ref to point the spot. he made a mistake by failing to keep with Di Vaio who started his run about a few seconds earlier.

Also in Angle 2's first picture you can clearly see Kaladze was not the only one who kept Di Vaio onside.

It's up to other people to judge...

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This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: Oct 8 2008, 02:14 PM

[dst]

Football is not a slide show. The defender in Maldini's place cannot move towards the player to block the pass cause if he does he has no chance to get to him if the player attempts to dribble past him... it's one of the first lessons a defender gets... this goal is obviously Kaladze's and Zambrotta's (?) fault for keeping Di Vaio onside, there is not even a question about it.
And of course you can't blame that goal for us losing the game (you said we were defeated in this game and you connected that with the goals conceded) especially when Pippo missed a million chances and Shevchenko another easy one... it's one mistake for the defenders, 5 or so for the forwards...
I'm not blindly defending Maldini, I don't have a problem admitting he's not who he used to be or that he has bad games (like I did after the game at Genoa) but no one would talk about this goal if Maldini was 10 years younger. The thing is you are trying to find a scapegoat and you blame this on Maldini cause "he's 40 years old"...

This post has been edited by dst: Oct 8 2008, 02:37 PM

[acid911]

Yay, the old dst that everyone liked and loved is back! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Gotta cut him some slack.

Like you said, the fact that Paolo is still playing for the world's number one club at 40 years of age makes him an easy scapegoat. If Nesta did something like this (and he's done this more than one in the last two years, gave away a penalty), people would just say that he had a bad day in the office. It's a good thing that he's still there to cover up, else with the injuries to Nesta, Kaladze, and Sanderos we'd have been in far deeper shtick. Quote me on this!

Believe in Paolo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Forza Maldini! Forza Milan!

[Zed.D]

The defender in Maldini's place cannot move towards the player to block the pass cause if he does he has no chance to get to him if the player attempts to dribble past him... it's one of the first lessons a defender gets... this goal is obviously Kaladze's and Zambrotta's (?) fault for keeping Di Vaio onside, there is not even a question about it.

At least go watch the scene so I don't have to make it a slide show! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) player 1 passes the ball to player 2, exactly at this moment Maldini moves towards player 2 [in what looks to be an attempt to challenge the player /or/ clear the ball], player 2 passes the ball to Di Vaio, the ball can definitely be cleared from there but Maldini just doesn't/can't do it. it gets to Di Vaio and he scores...

(IMG:http://tinypic.info/files/j1ik3tsixbv8pwxoev6g.gif)

All I'm saying is that the ball is passing at a very slow speed right from less than 1 meter from him and as far as I know, when you get a chance to take the ball from your opponent, you do it! it's like the most obvious rule in football. I can't understand how you say Maldini was right to let the ball enter the box for Di Vaio to sccore.
Clearing it would have been much easier and safer than relying on the other defenders' abilities/offside trap/etc.


It's not true that Kaladze and Zambro are keeping Di Vaio onside. Di Vaio is keeping himself onside. he is facing the defenders and seeing where they are, he's not stupid to run into offside position. just a blink of an eye before player 2 passed the ball to him, he was level even with Maldini. he wasn't exactly walking in the offside position and IMO you can't say Zambro and Kaladze were at fault for keeping him onside.

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And of course you can't blame that goal for us losing the game (you said we were defeated in this game and you connected that with the goals conceded) especially when Pippo missed a million chances and Shevchenko another easy one... it's one mistake for the defenders, 5 or so for the forwards...
I'm not blindly defending Maldini, I don't have a problem admitting he's not who he used to be or that he has bad games (like I did after the game at Genoa) but no one would talk about this goal if Maldini was 10 years younger. The thing is you are trying to find a scapegoat and you blame this on Maldini cause "he's 40 years old"...

My posts are in the Bologna thread. if I pointed finger at anyone for our loss it was firstly and mostly Pippo [for missing those chances], though Maldini's mistakes in those two games could not be completely ineffective, could they?!

I believe mistakes cost a team points [not just one single mistake], and the only reason I'm continuing the argument is because I do see a mistake by Maldini which could have been easily avoided if he was not 40 years old. but you insist there is not any... I honestly think I'm being fair with my logics. I back every statement with some clear shots, try to analyse every players move with no 'bias', etc. I hope you don't think I'm spending almost an hour on a single post just to wrongfully prove something about a player as great as Maldini.

[dst]

Whatever, there is no point in this... stick to your opinion and I'll stick to mine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Zed.D]

Fair enough...

But, to be honest, if I knew you'd call the argument off so easily I wouldn't have wasted my time on that post! (IMG:http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/innocentsmily.gif)

[dst]

Fair enough...

But, to be honest, if I knew you'd call the argument off so easily I wouldn't have wasted my time on that post! (IMG:http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/innocentsmily.gif)

Yeah it's true, I kinda screwed you up there... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But I thought it was only going to be another post of what I said before just bigger... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)