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post Aug 14 2008, 07:54 AM
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I think he relies on the entire team and plenty of other talents have been brought in during his time. I'd take him over any other. I really appreciate what Ancelotti has done for Milan over the past few years, and he's one of my favorites...
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post Aug 14 2008, 08:00 AM
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Any team is going to have players who stand out.

Milan recently: Kaka and Pirlo and Nesta
Jose's Chelsea: Drogba and Lamps and Terry
Liverpool: Gerrard and Torres
Barca: Messi and Xavi
Manchester: John O Shea... (he literally stands out.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )


Doesn't mean anything much really.
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post Aug 14 2008, 08:40 AM
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What I'm trying to say is that Man U/Chelsea, whoever, can afford to put out their 11 subs in some EPL games and go on to win, based on their managers tactics. Carlo struggles to beat the smallest of teams, even with his best XI.
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post Aug 14 2008, 08:57 AM
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I think it comes down to the tactics. I never saw Derby try to take on Chelsea with 11 players in their own halves. While teams like Messina would do exactly that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Aug 14 2008, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 14 2008, 08:57 AM) *
I think it comes down to the tactics. I never saw Derby try to take on Chelsea with 11 players in their own halves. While teams like Messina would do exactly that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

And that's exactly why they had such a terrible defensive record. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) They stuck their whole team behind the ball when they came to Villa Park, they had 2 shots all game, one of those was from near the half-way line..

That would be an acceptable answer if we draw. But we often lose these games. How on earth you lose to a crap team that keeps 11 men behind the ball I'll never know..

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post Aug 14 2008, 10:12 AM
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Carletto is deadly boring. I'm a patient man but... 3 DMF's and Pirlo against City the other day? It's a ****ing friendly you uncreative bast***!!! Ancelotti has exceeded every limit... he has entirely thrown creativity out of his world... and even if I rate him, I wish with all my heart this is his last ever season with Milan, I never thought I could be bored so much by anyone...
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post Aug 14 2008, 10:24 AM
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Well we could have gone all out and end up with 3 injuries like Man City for some friendly game.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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You are such a %&%&%&&^&*( meaniehead!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 14 2008, 10:32 AM
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I just don't see how Carlo's lasted this long. Top clubs can't afford failure for 2 years running, but now we're heading for a 3rd! Well, technically 4th!
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post Aug 14 2008, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 14 2008, 12:24 PM) *
Well we could have gone all out and end up with 3 injuries like Man City for some friendly game.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I seriously doubt injuries have anything to do with the formation you choose to play with...

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 14 2008, 12:32 PM) *
I just don't see how Carlo's lasted this long. Top clubs can't afford failure for 2 years running, but now we're heading for a 3rd! Well, technically 4th!

Ermm... 2nd? We won the CL in '06-'07 mate... I don't think that can be considered a failure even if we never challenged for the Scudetto to do that...
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QUOTE (dst @ Aug 14 2008, 10:39 AM) *
Ermm... 2nd? We won the CL in '06-'07 mate... I don't think that can be considered a failure even if we never challenged for the Scudetto to do that...

Just a difference of opinion then. I think it tarnishes the CL win if you don't really compete for the title or win the league the previous season. I'm sure Madrid, United, Chelsea, Barcelona could all just give up on the league in order to win the CL and probably end up doing it. I also believe League > Europe. Yes, it's nice to play in Europe and do well, but ultimately it's the league that decides everything for you and is the one that runs the longest.

3 bad seasons in a row so far for me. But like I said, just a difference of opinion.
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post Aug 14 2008, 11:18 AM
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What good is being the best team in Europe, when you're not even the best team in your city? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Surely, inter has been the better team in Milan for so long it's not even funny.
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Since Calciopoli, Acid. Not all that long.
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Yes, of course, since Calciopoli. Then again, that's long enough for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) The amount of world beaters we have (or had) in Kaka, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf, Ronaldo, and everyone in between, we should have won most of our last encounters. Particularly when you factor in that we were playing against merda and their losing mentality.

The fact that we weren't even good enough to draw, is well, pretty bad.
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post Aug 14 2008, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 14 2008, 01:04 PM) *
Just a difference of opinion then. I think it tarnishes the CL win if you don't really compete for the title or win the league the previous season. I'm sure Madrid, United, Chelsea, Barcelona could all just give up on the league in order to win the CL and probably end up doing it. I also believe League > Europe. Yes, it's nice to play in Europe and do well, but ultimately it's the league that decides everything for you and is the one that runs the longest.

3 bad seasons in a row so far for me. But like I said, just a difference of opinion.

It's not a difference of opinion pal, you're just being stubborn cause you don't like the CL. But you can't call a season in which you won the CL a bad season, no matter what! And this has nothing to do with one's personal view, you just can't...

I understand what you're saying about winning the CL when not competing for the championship and I agree with you but while it does tarnish your victory, if you win it you have not failed in any sense. I know you're not going to admit it but to me you are just being ridiculously stubborn here.

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