[Jack Sparrow]

He won't go. Not till 2010, or after he's failed with club post heavy investment(whether it's this season or the next, I don't know).

There's just no way the club would have kept on a coach who finished 5th, unless they knew it wasn't his fault at all. In this case, they're right, he's been overachieving for 2 seasons, with a depleted squad. So now he's into his probation period, but the club shall invest some money. I think Carlo to keep his job, will need to win a trophy...either the UEFA cup and finish second in the league (not behind Inter), or the scudetto and enter the last 8/4 of the UEFA cup (depends on how much the club wants to make a statement). Of course he might even win the double, if given enough players. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If he doesn't I think he will leave. Milan doesn't keep coaches for this long, never have. It was just that Carlo fit the club too well, and they had no excuses at all to remove him. But perhaps out of respect, they'll let him resign instead of terminating his contract.

And then out of respect Carlo will probably not coach in Italy again (unless it's for Roma or the Azzuri). Chelsea sounds good. It would be a match made in heaven.

1.Carlo's record against English sides.
2. His ability to do amazing stuff with world class players.
3. His football is usually good to watch. WIth Ten Cate as coach, it will be interesting.
4. Previous experience in dealing with ambitious owners. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
5. Unquestioned european pedigree.
6. He doesn't ask for a 100 million pounds every season, to win something.

It goes on and on.

As for Milan, I would think, one of either Frankie, Marco, or Franco will come in.

Rijkaard seems the favourite. Marco it will depend on how well he does between now and 2010/11. Baresi...I'm not sure. The last person we elevated from the youth team to coach the seniors on a permanent basis was Capello, and that worked out like a charm. Plus he's Italian.

This of course, assuming Milan do give a higher priority to have ex-players coach them.

You can't say though. Mourinho might have been fired again, coz Moratti is too dumb.

[kurtsimonw]

I think the problem with a guy like Ancelotti is that he just isn't a top league coach. And as far as I'm concerned, and what seems to b the general concensus, Premier League success is more fulfilling than winning the European Cup. Mainly because you're beating your rivals in the procces, and it's the product of hard work putt in over 8 months of football, rather than 13 games.

Just my opinion though. And also a reason I'm not a fan of Carlo, doing well in Europe means jack if you're gonna do nothing in the league.

[Jack Sparrow]

I understand your sentiments, but I have no doubt in my mind, that Carlo would easily easily win the EPL, if he were in a team with Chelsea with Abramovich's resources.

His team is built on passing, and making use of spaces in the mid-field. And the EPL is very conducive to space in the mid-field. The only exception to this rule was Mourinho's Chelsea, and Rafa's Liverpool. They're the only two sides that played 'European' football.

As for Ancellotti not winning. He was won the scudetto with us. And he did it very dominantly too. That season we also reached the semis of CL I think. But that was the last time, he ever had a proper squad. With cover everywhere. Since then, I don't think you can hold him accountable for the obvious deficiencies in the team ,and/or the targets fixed by the management.

You've already stated you wanted Mourinho. But the reason, I opposed is not that I don't like Mourinho. I would have loved for him to coach one of my other teams, like Valencia or Newcastle (not now, that we've got the greatest coach ever in Kevin Keegan), but...Mourinho would again, just fail miserably in this team.

He'd bench players?? He'd bench them for who? As soon as Carlo got Pato into rhythm, it was the last Milan saw of Gila.

Next, remember the argument on the field in the CL season, when Seedorf flung a bottle in anger?

Carlo: What're you doing? You're lucky I don't have any players left on the bench or else I'd substitute you!

Clarence: You don't like what's happening, you come and play, or else give us some more support from the bench.

No he knew, this problem from before. But the thing was Milan were not going to spend, and he had to make-do till then.

I don't know why. Maybe Milan felt it was more important to get it's finances in shape. Maybe Berlusconi had decided he couldn't spill cash, until his investment in the election campaign was done.

Either way, Mourinho would not have gotten cash either. Mourinho would just have made a hulla-bulloo, about not being given enough cash , the board would have turned the other way, and either Mourinho would quit,and left the team high and dry, or just do as much as Carlo did. Probably less, since the players don't know him/like him as well.

So now people want Mourinho, but they want new players as well?? My point is why should Mourinho get the luxury of getting the players he wants, and form a new team, when a man who pulled us out from nowhere to reach the top of club football, doesn't get the same opportunity.

After the investment,and if the club still fails, then Carletto will be removed. I have no doubts about that. And he will deserve to leave as well.

You like SAF....you probably know the kind of reception SAF got in the first 5-6 years of his career? He was supposed to be fired. But they didn't and he got the time to build his team, and after that it's been all good.

Same is the case with say Rovers and Mark Hughes. Moyes and Everton. Sometimes you need consistency. You cannot fire the coach without analysing what went wrong and why. Otherwise you end up with a Valencia or a Madrid. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The problem besides that, with a personality like Mourinho (since I'm sure 50% of your dislike for Carlo stems from the huge differences in style from Mourinho) is that eventually you're going to have what happened in Chelsea. The team imploded. He could not keep his players together (except his chosen bunch), the rest of the team revolted, and he had to be fired. How else can there be 'problems' with management(who handpicked you) when you've won 3 titles? Not to mention, I found his last interview to be hilarious. I couldn't believe he was saying he needed more players!! All he lacked was a world class RB. That's it!! Carlo's been playing without a fullback, a centre back, a striker, and in some cases a creative mid-fielder as well!!

But that's just me. I happen to be a fan of the Capello, Sacchi, Carlo school. Shut up and play...the press is what Galliani is there for.

[Rossoneri7]

Great post Cap'ain (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

I understand your sentiments, but I have no doubt in my mind, that Carlo would easily easily win the EPL, if he were in a team with Chelsea with Abramovich's resources.

His team is built on passing, and making use of spaces in the mid-field. And the EPL is very conducive to space in the mid-field. The only exception to this rule was Mourinho's Chelsea, and Rafa's Liverpool. They're the only two sides that played 'European' football.

I'm not sure he'd win the league easily, but I'd be confident that he'd do it. But he's a good coach, so that's what you'd expect. It will be interesting to see who Chelsea go with. Carlo, Mancini and Mark Hughes are all on the shortlist, but Hughes doesn't usually play very attractive football, so I expect him to be ruled out. I'd be surprised if Carlo even got it, I think they'll go with Mancini - it'd probably be easier to get him too.

As for Ancellotti not winning. He was won the scudetto with us. And he did it very dominantly too. That season we also reached the semis of CL I think. But that was the last time, he ever had a proper squad. With cover everywhere. Since then, I don't think you can hold him accountable for the obvious deficiencies in the team ,and/or the targets fixed by the management.

You've already stated you wanted Mourinho. But the reason, I opposed is not that I don't like Mourinho. I would have loved for him to coach one of my other teams, like Valencia or Newcastle (not now, that we've got the greatest coach ever in Kevin Keegan), but...Mourinho would again, just fail miserably in this team.

I don't think once in.. 8 years is it now, or 7? Can't remember. Either way it's not quite good enough. Not having a big enough excuse is fair enough, but the problem comes when you rest players in the league to play in the Champions League - basically throwing the league away. Maybe it's acceptable if you go on to win the Champions League, but maybe not to some, his priorities seem to lie in the wrong place, but that's just for me.

I'm not sure he'd fail here, but it's not the right place for him, that's for sure. But he'd also fail at your other team, Newcastle. I think you could put SAF, Lippi, Capello and Jose their altogether and they'd fail up there!

Either way, Mourinho would not have gotten cash either. Mourinho would just have made a hulla-bulloo, about not being given enough cash , the board would have turned the other way, and either Mourinho would quit,and left the team high and dry, or just do as much as Carlo did. Probably less, since the players don't know him/like him as well.

So now people want Mourinho, but they want new players as well?? My point is why should Mourinho get the luxury of getting the players he wants, and form a new team, when a man who pulled us out from nowhere to reach the top of club football, doesn't get the same opportunity.

I agree. I don't blame the players we have on Carlo, that's clearly all the boards fault. The only thing that annoys me is that he is willing to sacrifice the league for a run in the CL, and an early CL exit - like this season - can put you in a very difficult postition with nothing to play for. I know it's supposedly Silvio who prefers CL over Serie A, but then you have to ask the question, does Silvio have TOO much input on team selection? I know it's his club and all, but that's what a choac is for!

You like SAF....you probably know the kind of reception SAF got in the first 5-6 years of his career? He was supposed to be fired. But they didn't and he got the time to build his team, and after that it's been all good.

Same is the case with say Rovers and Mark Hughes. Moyes and Everton. Sometimes you need consistency. You cannot fire the coach without analysing what went wrong and why. Otherwise you end up with a Valencia or a Madrid.

To be honest, I didn't know much about SAF and what he was thought of before he became a huge success - I was only 4 when he won his first league title - so I can't say much about his situation. But I do agree that you need some sort of consistancy. I think it takes a manager about 3 years to really build 'his' squad. So if you sack him after 3 seasons, you're just putting yourself back to square 1 again. So I think managers do need to be given more time nowadays, it's paid off with smaller clubs like Everton and Blackburn as you say, and even at the top level with SAF, Arsenal and Carlo, so I think time and patience is something owners need to learn about in modern day football.

The problem besides that, with a personality like Mourinho (since I'm sure 50% of your dislike for Carlo stems from the huge differences in style from Mourinho) is that eventually you're going to have what happened in Chelsea. The team imploded. He could not keep his players together (except his chosen bunch), the rest of the team revolted, and he had to be fired. How else can there be 'problems' with management(who handpicked you) when you've won 3 titles? Not to mention, I found his last interview to be hilarious. I couldn't believe he was saying he needed more players!! All he lacked was a world class RB. That's it!! Carlo's been playing without a fullback, a centre back, a striker, and in some cases a creative mid-fielder as well!!

But that's just me. I happen to be a fan of the Capello, Sacchi, Carlo school. Shut up and play...the press is what Galliani is there for.

I'm not sure it was Jose's personality that really caused problems. It all started from 2 things: 1) Sheva being signed against his wishes and 2) a DoF being appointed - Avram Grant. With Roman buying players for himself, and now Avram in the picture, I think he was just annoyed that he wasn't in charge of transfers. He asked for more money, and was told no.. and I see why he got annoyed - He wasn't allowed any money, yet Roman was willing to spend £30m on a player that the manager didn't even want! Crazy really. Jose didn't actually have the biggest squad, he only had 22 players at one point, they were all of fairly high quality, but that's still not alot when you're competing for 4 trophies.

I'd like somebody in between the way Carlo and Jose act. Jose is great because he doesn't give up when he's been told no, while Carlo seems to just accept any decision without even to be seemingly bothered. On the other hand, Carlo gets on with his job when he isn't given any money, whereas Mourinho starts making stupid interviews over it. A little in between would be nice!

[Jack Sparrow]

So we agree on everything except...

I'm not sure he'd fail here, but it's not the right place for him, that's for sure. But he'd also fail at your other team, Newcastle. I think you could put SAF, Lippi, Capello and Jose their altogether and they'd fail up there!

kurt...don't make me angry...you won't like me when I'm angry...

Aaaaaargh....too late...!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif)

(IMG:http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03/hulkstill_450x250.jpg)

[kurtsimonw]

I'm sorry, I just can't help. Keegan really fits them perfectly, he's just too nice and doesn't seem to understand footballers: After a good performance from Habib Beye: "I thought he was outstanding today, we have a great RB in this team. In fact, we've got the best RB in the Premier League" (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I missed Keegan! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Mihajlovic Slams Mancini Sacking


Sinisa Mihajlovic has slammed the decision by Massimo Moratti to sack Coach Roberto Mancini.

Mancini was told to pack his bags and leave San Siro during a brief meeting with the Inter President on Tuesday afternoon, and his former right-hand man Mihajlovic has revealed the tactician’s reaction to the news.

“He took it very, very badly,” the Serbian revealed.

“He was very disappointed with what happened.

“Roberto came out of the meeting with the President and phoned me immediately to tell me the news. It was the wrong decision.”

Mihajlovic, who will now almost certainly leave the club as well so that incoming coach Jose Mourinho can bring in his own staff, added that he was stunned that Moratti could make such a decision.

“I never expected such a decision from Moratti,” he stated.

“I do not agree with what has happened. Mancini could have continued to win at this club with just a couple of new signings.”

Mancini has now emerged as one of the hot favourites to fill the vacant manager’s position at Chelsea, following last week’s sacking of Avram Grant.

Goal.com





I really don't understand how on earth could you remove a coach that has just won you two consecutive titles ! Only la merda (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

It doesn't make sense really. I think it's outrageous to do such a thing.

[Rossoneri7]

Reports: Roma To Be Sold Today


New York criminal defense lawyer Joseph Tacopina is on the verge of buying Roma, and having just arrived in Italy he could complete the deal today, according to reports in the US and Italy.


Tacopina is a high profile New York defence lawyer, who has handled cases including the late English comedian Peter Cook, American rapper Foxy Brown, as well as Amanda Knox, accused of being involved in the murder of Meredith Kercher in Perugia last year.

Roma have been strongly linked with a takeover in recent months due to the fact that the club’s parent company, Italpetroli, possess debts in the region of €370m.

American businessman George Soros has been most heavily associated with taking control of the club, and according to the NY Post, the billionaire will be the financier of Jacopina’s takeover.

"Joe is purchasing the Roma soccer team with George Soros as his main investor, and [Tacopina's] going to be the president of the team," a source close to the pair said.

"This is just huge. In Italy, soccer's everything, and in Rome the Roma team's the biggest thing right now. Tacopina's very excited. It's a dream come true."

Tacopina landed in Rome this morning, and is being tipped to close the deal by the end of today.

The lawyer, who was born and raised in Brooklyn, holds Italian citizenship and has a law office in Milan, so those who are strongly against the idea of Serie A selling its soul to foreigners just like the English Premiership, may not be so against Jacopina.

Goal.com



I am not convinced of this .. But I know Roma will be sold, and that the Sensi family are gonna take it hard if a deal is struck ! But if a deal is struck, then Roma will really be a force next season, let alone this transfer window!

[dst]

I really don't understand how on earth could you remove a coach that has just won you two consecutive titles ! Only la merda (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

It's a universal conspiracy in favor or Mourinho. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Now he's going to keep winning titles (if Mancini did it... there's no doubt Mourinho will do it as well) and of course people are not going to say "This is Mancini's team" like the say Chelsea's Mourinho's team whenever Grant is mentioned... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[Zed.D]

What are you people talking about? :you haven't forgotten Mancini's ridiculous comments after Liverpool defeat, have you? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

It's a universal conspiracy in favor or Mourinho. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   Now he's going to keep winning titles (if Mancini did it... there's no doubt Mourinho will do it as well) and of course people are not going to say "This is Mancini's team" like the say Chelsea's Mourinho's team whenever Grant is mentioned...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

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Ah well, with all this hype, it will just make Milan's victory even sweeter (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[dst]

What are you people talking about? :you haven't forgotten Mancini's ridiculous comments after Liverpool defeat, have you? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

No. How could anyone forget that? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[morgoth]

Not sure if it's been posted (or where to post it) but Ancelotti is now the favourite for the Chelsea job according to SSN.

Actually this is my secret dream (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but it won't happen (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

One thing is sure Carlo won't be sacked, if he goes it will be his decision. With that said, I really hope he goes, some people seem to think that there was nothing more we could have done this year but I hugely disagree. His ability to change the game are too predictable, weather when it comes to make substitutions or to change the formation, he's too rigid in my opinion and it cost us the CL spot!