[dst]

1899% agreed. Oh wait..he was under Mourinho wasn't he... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Hmm... and surprisingly, that was not answered yet.

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What the **** is that??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Hmm... and surprisingly, that was not answered yet.


What the **** is that??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The balloon being burst?? However SAF looks like 'Shite....Did I just f@rt that loud!'

As for SWP, I wasn't expecting a response. I just put it out, since too many think Jose can walk on water, while Carlo is plain dumb lucky.

Lots of other things at Chelsea the Jose hasn't done:

- Get Lamps and Ballack to play together and play well
- Ashley Cole back to being the best LB in England.
- Make Chelsea more likeable than Man U
- Go 1-0 up and try scoring more. F@ck go 2-0 up and try and score more.

This post has been edited by Jack Sparrow: Sep 22 2008, 12:39 PM

[kurtsimonw]

1) Newcastle United:

Lets not forget that the Premiership has only been won by 4 clubs and he oh so very nearly made that 5 - and he would have been the only English man to do so !!

Oh yeah, I forgot that Big Ron didn't finish 2nd with Villa in the first EPL season. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Even Gerrard Houllier finished 2nd for christ sake, every manager can have a one off good season. Keegan is probably the worst England manager of the modern era, his record was terrible. He didn't even win half of his games, and last as many as he won.. his record was worse than Steve McClarens, that says it all.

The main problem with Newcastle is that they think they're alot better than they really are. They hype up their favourites claiming they're God-like, when in reality, Keegan is just an average manager, they have an average team, then they just blame everything on their owner. First Sheppard, now Ashley. Considering Sheppard helped them finish highly in the league under numerous managers, I'd say he wasn't too bad.. the Newcastle fans didn't think so, though.

Lots of other things at Chelsea the Jose hasn't done:

- Get Lamps and Ballack to play together and play well
- Ashley Cole back to being the best LB in England.
- Make Chelsea more likeable than Man U
- Go 1-0 up and try scoring more. F@ck go 2-0 up and try and score more.

He didn't need Lampard and Ballack to play together. With just Lampard he won 2 straight titles, when Ballack joined, they've won none.. I agree with the Ashley Cole thing, he wasn't too great under Jose but the start of this season, I'd go as far as saying he's probably been the best player in the EPL so far, quite outstanding performances. I dunno about this, I know alot of people who liked Chelsea - like myself - and can't stand United. I didn't like Chelsea under Raniera too much, but as soon as Jose took over I couldn't help but like them alot.

Jose may not have won too many games convincingly, but at least he won them. Scolari's record in the EPL stands at 3 wins and 2 draws, decent but not overly impressive. Especially as I think only 1 team they've played is currently in the top half.

[Portman]

Lots of other things at Chelsea the Jose hasn't done:

- Get Lamps and Ballack to play together and play well
- Ashley Cole back to being the best LB in England.
- Make Chelsea more likeable than Man U
- Go 1-0 up and try scoring more. F@ck go 2-0 up and try and score more.

So? He got 2 trophies per year (6 over 3 y). Is that bad?

- Capello can't put Lampard and Gerrard playing together too.
- More likeable? Nor Scolari nor Grant. Nor Ranieri.
- He improved Joe Cole a lot, just to give you an example. Even the player admitted it.
- Don't agree. Check out Porto matches and Chelsea from the first 2 years. You'll easily see you're wrong.

[Portman]

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This one is bigger. And deserves a re-post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

[acid911]

This one's much better! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Sheff U want compensation from West Ham

Tevez scored the goal that kept West Ham in the Premier League, even though he shouldn't have even been playing. This resulted in Sheffield United getting relegated unfairly, and they want £30m in compensation. I think that sum is quite low considering the tv revenue and ticket sales they've lost out on. Hopefully they get more than that, it's only right.

[dst]

Lots of other things at Chelsea the Jose hasn't done:

- Get Lamps and Ballack to play together and play well
- Ashley Cole back to being the best LB in England.
- Make Chelsea more likeable than Man U
- Go 1-0 up and try scoring more. F@ck go 2-0 up and try and score more.

I like Chelsea more than United but why should he have done that anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) His job is to win titles and he did just that...
As long as he's winning he does not need to do that with many goals... who's to say he ever wanted to do that and couldn't?

With just Lampard he won 2 straight titles, when Ballack joined, they've won none..

Yeah just because of Ballack they lost. Please...

Sheff U want compensation from West Ham

Tevez scored the goal that kept West Ham in the Premier League, even though he shouldn't have even been playing. This resulted in Sheffield United getting relegated unfairly, and they want £30m in compensation. I think that sum is quite low considering the tv revenue and ticket sales they've lost out on. Hopefully they get more than that, it's only right.

D'oh! They should shut up, really!

Arsene eyes Ettore
Lazio starlet Ettore Mendicino is being targeted by Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger, according to reports. The teenage striker caught the eye of the Premiership leaders' Italian scout Tony Banfield after impressive displays for Lazio's Primavera side. Wenger has a reputation for bringing in youngsters and developing them into fine players and the 17-year-old could be the next one. Mendicino is seen as one of a promising generation of talents at Lazio. His qualities are his speed, his unselfish nature and his scoring rate - last season he hit 9 goals in 32 games.

I'd hate it if he snapped up a youngster like that again but there's something else I wanted to say: What the **** does he need more talents for??!??!?!?!?! Honestly, unless he's a pedophile it makes absolutely no sense!!!

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[kurtsimonw]

Yeah just because of Ballack they lost. Please...

I never said that. I just don't see why getting Lampard and Ballack to play together is a big deal. With just Lampard they won titles, they haven't with both of them, so I don't see the importance of it.

D'oh! They should shut up, really!

Nah, I feel sorry for them. If Milan lost a Champions League Final or something to a goal from a player who shouldn't have even been playing, I'm sure we'd be complaining. It's not right and they may never get back into the Premier League again. West Ham should be deducted points to be quite honest, however many they gained while Tevez was on the field.

I'd hate it if he snapped up a youngster like that again but there's something else I wanted to say: What the **** does he need more talents for??!??!?!?!?! Honestly, unless he's a pedophile it makes absolutely no sense!!!

Arsenals financial figures for the year ending May 2008 were shown on Sky Sports the other day, their net debt has increased by £40m over the last year, so the only thing I can think of as a reason for them getting all of these young players is because they are now a selling club. Buy them cheap, sell them for more to reduce the debts. I don't think Fabregas will be there when he's 24/25.

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[dst]

I never said that. I just don't see why getting Lampard and Ballack to play together is a big deal. With just Lampard they won titles, they haven't with both of them, so I don't see the importance of it.

Pardon me, I misunderstood.
It surely was not necessary for him to do that.

Nah, I feel sorry for them. If Milan lost a Champions League Final or something to a goal from a player who shouldn't have even been playing, I'm sure we'd be complaining. It's not right and they may never get back into the Premier League again. West Ham should be deducted points to be quite honest, however many they gained while Tevez was on the field.

Tevez should not be allowed to play because... ? I don't remember the case exactly...
If it was Milan then I would probably think different but that does not mean that I would think the right way.

Arsenals financial figures for the year ending May 2008 were shown on Sky Sports the other day, their net debt has increased by £40m over the last year, so the only thing I can think of as a reason for them getting all of these young players is because they are now a selling club. Buy them cheap, sell them for more to reduce the debts. I don't think Fabregas will be there when he's 24/25.

Well if that's what they've become then they have no choice but to sell the club if they want to be able to challenge for and win important titles in a constant basis.
Fabregas? Yeah I can't see him staying either. If Arsenal fail to win the championship or the CL this season then Wenger must make some signings to convince him to stay... and I doubt Arsene will do that.

[Jack Sparrow]

So? He got 2 trophies per year (6 over 3 y). Is that bad?

- Capello can't put Lampard and Gerrard playing together too.
- More likeable? Nor Scolari nor Grant. Nor Ranieri.
- He improved Joe Cole a lot, just to give you an example. Even the player admitted it.
- Don't agree. Check out Porto matches and Chelsea from the first 2 years. You'll easily see you're wrong.

- As a neutral, and knowing many more neutrals, I would say Chelsea is definitely more likeable under Scolari than ever under Mou. Maybe the difference is that they're more humanized now. Same team for some time, no longer considered a bunch of mercenaries. But I definitely feel it's more likeable. If you're still not convinced, ask Inter. As much as Inter are hated, they've never been disliked as much as they are now. Mancini, never attacked other managers, no matter what the provocation.

- He improved Joe Cole?? Maybe...heck I'll even say yes. (Though I think Joe Cole is just SWP with some brains) He also made Drogba, the great Drogba. He destroyed Sheva, almost destroyed Ballack, ruined Cole's effectiveness, wasted a year of Sidwell's career...and so on. Porty I'm not saying he's cr@p..far from it. I'm just saying he isn't inviolate. Like you said, even the great Capello is having trouble.

- Porto remains to me, the one reason why I'll admit Jose has got some ability. Though I suppose FC Porto are the Juventus of the Portuguese League, so surely it wouldn't have been difficult to buy the best in class from most teams, except say Benfica and Sporting. As for the first two seasons, I could point you in the same direction with Ancelotti. The first CL we won, the season following it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I like Chelsea more than United but why should he have done that anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) His job is to win titles and he did just that...
As long as he's winning he does not need to do that with many goals... who's to say he ever wanted to do that and couldn't?

You're right, he doesn't need to. I'm a football neutral. I hate it when my team play boring. But I accept it, because there are reasons. So imagine how I'd feel if a team invests millions in importing some of the most technical players in the world, so they can play longball to Drogba?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Look at them play under Scolari, has any of the club targets from Jose's reign changed?? Nope. You think Scolari has been told, "Joga Bonito and f@ck the cups??" He's winning, but he's winning differently. In a way that demands admiration. Jose never gained admiration for his play (which kinda defeats the purpose of a football match). He converted the game of football into a race- Who finishes first! And I'll never forgive him for it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) For all of SAF's/Wenger's sins, this wasn't one of them.

Yeah just because of Ballack they lost. Please...

They did the opposite. Went further in the CL than ever. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'd hate it if he snapped up a youngster like that again but there's something else I wanted to say: What the **** does he need more talents for??!??!?!?!?! Honestly, unless he's a pedophile it makes absolutely no sense!!!

Be careful with the pedo word. It might start off the whole offensive/inoffensive war again. But I think FIFA should really take a look at this. This kinda attitude is no good.

[dst]

- Porto remains to me, the one reason why I'll admit Jose has got some ability.

I respect Mourinho more for what he did with Chelsea than for what he did with Porto. No matter what people say having a team full of great players does not mean it's easy to win the title.

[Jack Sparrow]

^^^

SHUT UP, I KILL YOU!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Tevez should not be allowed to play because... ? I don't remember the case exactly...
If it was Milan then I would probably think different but that does not mean that I would think the right way.

The Premier League does not allow 3rd party contracts. So every must be owned, by contract, to the club they are playing for - whether it be a loan contract from another club, or a full ownership.

Tevez was illegal because he was owned by a company, rather than a club, and the EPL does not allow this. I'm not sure why they allowed him to play - unless they didn't find out until late. SO Sheff U have a case. Unfortunately I don't think anything will come of it, as Mascherano was also illegaly playing in the EPL with West Ham, and he then moved to Liverpool when he shouldn't have even been there, and do you think Liverpool will get punished? Me neither.

Well if that's what they've become then they have no choice but to sell the club if they want to be able to challenge for and win important titles in a constant basis.
Fabregas? Yeah I can't see him staying either. If Arsenal fail to win the championship or the CL this season then Wenger must make some signings to convince him to stay... and I doubt Arsene will do that.

I respect Arsenal for the way they go about transfers with the whole "Only spend how much you earn", but they're not going to win the league like this unfortunately. The board have said the money is there if Wenger wants it, but he doesn't want to spend it. Fabregas won't want another year without a trophy I don't think, not sure some other players will either. (This isn't a shot at Arsenal, it's jsut what I believe).

[Locke Lamora]

Bendtner goal, Arsenal 1-0 Sheffield U. 33 minutes played.