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Will the return of Ronaldo turn our season around?
Will the return of Ronaldo turn our season around?
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Fillipo Simone
post Nov 11 2007, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (dst @ Nov 11 2007, 06:44 AM)
They don't have to use any excuses; they are challenging for the scudetto, we're not!
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And in the end, they're gonna end up behind us,..
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post Nov 11 2007, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 11 2007, 04:00 AM)
And in the end, they're gonna end up behind us,..
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This season? There is noway of that happening. Next season is a different story.
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post Nov 11 2007, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 11 2007, 01:28 PM)
This season? There is noway of that happening. Next season is a different story.
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And why is that? You think we won't win the 4th spot???

I mean - Inter or Roma will take the scudetto, maybe Fiorentina. They are in fight for the 1-3 postitions. We have to secure the 4th spot, and that's what we are gonna do. Juve will be looking at our back, IMO..
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post Nov 11 2007, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 11 2007, 07:08 AM)
And why is that? You think we won't win the 4th spot???

I mean - Inter or Roma will take the scudetto, maybe Fiorentina. They are in fight for the 1-3 postitions. We have to secure the 4th spot, and that's what we are gonna do. Juve will be looking at our back, IMO..
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If, we are gonna make the the top four, and that's only an if, it will be like this:

Inter
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Juve
Milan

Otherwise, put Fiorentina in fourth place.
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 11 2007, 03:41 PM)
If, we are gonna make the the top four, and that's only an if, it will be like this:

Inter
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Juve
Milan

Otherwise, put Fiorentina in fourth place.
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I can't agree. Fiorentina is IMO stronger then Juvetus. Juve got Buffon and Trez, plus some nice players and a wreck of a player once called Pavel Nedved. The Violas have a team with the winning combo.
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post Nov 11 2007, 10:38 PM
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Milan will end this season in the top four. It is inevitable. Our injured players are just getting back, and the team has just reached (closed to..) peak form.

IMO our only direct challengers are the merda, regardless of our position in the table today. It's still early to predict what's the situation gonna be like four months from now, but as things stand today, we are amongst the very few who have a team capable of reaching such a target!
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 11 2007, 01:01 AM)
Really?

They deserve it?? I don't think so. They play just like they did a few years ago. You can freely turn your TV on near the 80th minute, cause you won't miss any good stuff. It's still the irritating Juve it used to be.

And considering the "Calciopoli" excuse - don't make a parallel with Milan. Cause it's only naturally that Juve keep their mouth shut. They don't use the excuse cause they were found guilty and they have to play down for quite some time.
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Our problems is we don't want to accept Milan were involved in the Calciopoli too [I've seen this between many of milanfan.com members]. this was not really the first time Milan got punished for these kind of wrongdoings as you know we were even relegated to Serie B before Silvio takeover. so talking about Juve having to keep their mouths shut for they were found guilty but Milan not is a bit nonsense...
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 12 2007, 09:59 AM)
Our problems is we don't want to accept Milan were involved in the Calciopoli too [I've seen this between many of milanfan.com members]. this was not really the first time Milan got punished for these kind of wrongdoings as you know we were even relegated to Serie B before Silvio takeover. so talking about Juve having to keep their mouths shut for they were found guilty but Milan not is a bit nonsense...
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When you say Milan=Juve, yes it is nonsense. But to me, it was clear why Milan got penalized and why Juve got relegated. Complete different roles.
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post Nov 12 2007, 04:19 PM
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For the last time I'm gonna say this. Milan were not involved, everyone else was. Milan are clean while every other team is dirty. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. Furthermore, if you wanna say it's my opinion, then I'm right and if you disagree, you are wrong. If you have something to say that is not in agreement with my statements, go swallow a knife and then jump off a bridge.
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For the last time I'm gonna say this. Milan were not involved, everyone else was. Milan are clean while every other team is dirty. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. Furthermore, if you wanna say it's my opinion, then I'm right and if you disagree, you are wrong. If you have something to say that is not in agreement with my statements, go swallow a knife and then jump off a bridge.


Ahhh Max...there is still good in you...(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Swallow a knife and jump off a bridge?? I don't see the connection...some ancient punishment devised by your great great great great great grand uncle Xerxes?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


While I agree with you, the fact is quite simple(why people think Milan are match-fixers)

Calciopoli was a match fixing scandal where guilty teams were punished.
Milan was punished. Ergo, Milan are match-fixers.

Pretty simply this is how people see it, and there's nothing we can say, bringing in the verdict or whatever, coz you think people care?

Milan answered their critics when Paolo lifted Daddy Big Ears. F@ck all to the doubters. Devil's Army for life.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 12 2007, 05:19 PM)
When you say Milan=Juve, yes it is nonsense. But to me, it was clear why Milan got penalized and why Juve got relegated. Complete different roles.
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Then Milan had a 'role', even very small?

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 12 2007, 06:49 PM)
For the last time I'm gonna say this. Milan were not involved, everyone else was. Milan are clean while every other team is dirty. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. Furthermore, if you wanna say it's my opinion, then I'm right and if you disagree, you are wrong. If you have something to say that is not in agreement with my statements, go swallow a knife and then jump off a bridge.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 12 2007, 09:01 PM)
Ahhh Max...there is still good in you...(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Swallow a knife and jump off a bridge?? I don't see the connection...some ancient punishment devised by your great great great great great grand uncle Xerxes?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
While I agree with you, the fact is quite simple(why people think Milan are match-fixers)

Calciopoli was a match fixing scandal where guilty teams were punished.
Milan was punished. Ergo, Milan are match-fixers.

Pretty simply this is how people see it, and there's nothing we can say, bringing in the verdict or whatever, coz you think people care?

Milan answered their critics when Paolo lifted Daddy Big Ears. F@ck all to the doubters. Devil's Army for life.
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Thanks for the compliment.

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But I got a question from three of you: imagine Milan were never involved n the Calciopoli, and instead Inter were punished just like Milan were, eight points. be honest for a second, what would you call them now?...

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Thanks for the compliment.


I'm sorry that wasn't meant for you. If you were in that category, you wouldn't be on this forum. I've been defending Milan to people in and around my work place/coffee shop wherever for the past season, it blew out this time. Apologies!

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But I got a question from three of you: imagine Milan were never involved n the Calciopoli, and instead Inter were punished just like Milan were, eight points. be honest for a second, what would you call them now?...


zd..Inter could win the Scudetto, the CL, and the Coppa Italia, guest star in the FA cup and win that, and maybe send in their youth team to play La Liga and even win that. We'd still call them cheats. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) They're shite-merda! We hate them, they hate us, we're all happy!

The question you should ask is what if it had been a team, we don't particularly care about, like Udinese or Torino. In that case, I'm convinced we would listen to their side of the story, as opposed to a team like Inter or Juve against whom we are biased to start off with anyway!!

As for Milan's role...I think it goes back to a crazy guy named Meani. Perhaps the inspiration for 10ster's now-famous pickup line ( (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 13 2007, 07:12 AM)
I'm sorry that wasn't meant for you. If you were in that category, you wouldn't be on this forum. I've been defending Milan to people in and around my work place/coffee shop wherever for the past season, it blew out this time. Apologies!

zd..Inter could win the Scudetto, the CL, and the Coppa Italia, guest star in the FA cup and win that, and maybe send in their youth team to play La Liga and even win that. We'd still call them cheats. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) They're shite-merda! We hate them, they hate us, we're all happy!

The question you should ask is what if it had been a team, we don't particularly care about, like Udinese or Torino. In that case, I'm convinced we would listen to their side of the story, as opposed to a team like Inter or Juve against whom we are biased to start off with anyway!!

As for Milan's role...I think it goes back to a crazy guy named Meani. Perhaps the inspiration for 10ster's now-famous pickup line ( (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
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No, it's OK!
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And Galliani got a 1 year ban (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Moratti is no cheat, he's a fvcking retarded and the best he can do is to have his men to spy on others. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) he's not smart enough to be a cheater!
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 12 2007, 08:31 PM)
Ahhh Max...there is still good in you...(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Swallow a knife and jump off a bridge?? I don't see the connection...some ancient punishment devised by your great great great great great grand uncle Xerxes?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
While I agree with you, the fact is quite simple(why people think Milan are match-fixers)

Calciopoli was a match fixing scandal where guilty teams were punished.
Milan was punished. Ergo, Milan are match-fixers.

Pretty simply this is how people see it, and there's nothing we can say, bringing in the verdict or whatever, coz you think people care?

Milan answered their critics when Paolo lifted Daddy Big Ears. F@ck all to the doubters. Devil's Army for life.
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Actually Jack, not long ago I have gone through the evidence that was presented in court for the trial. Most of it was in Italian, of which I had someone translate for me. Calciopoli ...


Though some people would rather rest on their behinds and just take the conclusion(s) of the vast majority, who just repeat whatever rhetoric the media prints out (which inevitably becomes the majority opinion.. u know, monkey see, monkey do (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ).

There was not enough evidence brought to the table !!! But because the judges were on Moratti's tab, most of the scudetto challengers were brushed aside. Is it a coincidence that Fiorentina, Reggina, etc all had their penalties decreased two months into the championship .. While Milan got nothing decreased (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) These are the kind of things that should be questioned, as post Calciopoli ! But u know, people would much rather move on .. than question their position in such a fraud (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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Back on topic because we've exhausted this Calciopoli discussion on more then 1 occasion

Ronaldo might help. He will probably give us a big boost in the attacking department, especially in Serie A. But we have other probalems that we need to address, like the defence which has let in a goal in almost every game.
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