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post Aug 28 2007, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 28 2007, 05:23 PM)
An example here could be Gilardino.
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It's a much different situation with Alves. First of all, Alves has been incredible in Europe too... I don't rate the UEFA Cup much but it IS a challenging competition and it is hard to be able to always play consistently... something Alves has done. Secondly, Parma was built around Gila while Alves is "only" a full-back and he shines among many other great talents!

I get what you're trying to say though about when you consider a player to be great so it's pointless to go on with this...

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 28 2007, 05:23 PM)
Here I was clearing up why inflation has nothing to do with players value! So what if Juve were under pressure to sell for less ?! It just proves the point that inflation has nothing to do with players value.
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But you can't the Juventus situation as an example to compare players' prices... it was a special situation and the those prices are not real... if you really believe they were well I don't want to say anything further... but apart from those deals, every single other one shows that the prices HAVE gone up: Pato, Walcott, Nani, Pepe, Gila...
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post Aug 28 2007, 05:07 PM
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when i say inflation i'm not relating the literal inflation rate of different countries because the football word has it's own economic system in certain respects. all i'm saying is so much money is being thrown around these days so clubs have been asking for even more because of the demand and precedants that are being set every year... i mean 80m for ronaldinho +40m for wages for one player!?!?!? even tho it dont go thru, these sorta figrues are unheard of. so ya 40m is too much if you compare it to cafu in his prime cuz even he wouldnt have gone for nearly that much cuz it was 5-6 years ago, because transfer fees have gone up a lot since. if you think 40m is too much for alves now, thats fine cuz you just think he's overrated.

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post Aug 28 2007, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Aug 28 2007, 05:40 PM)
But you can't the Juventus situation as an example to compare players' prices... it was a special situation and the those prices are not real... if you really believe they were well I don't want to say anything further... but apart from those deals, every single other one shows that the prices HAVE gone up: Pato, Walcott, Nani, Pepe, Gila...
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That is what I meant !!!! The value of the players that were sold from Juve last summer .. had inflation been considered they would have held their value !!

Let us say u have a a real estate company, u were bankrupt ... The bank had to foreclose all your loans .. Then your property was put up for sale. Here because inflation has a direct correlation with the price of real estate, the value remains at whatever figure it is on the market ...

Players value isn't related to inflation. The whole concept isn't logical, as the players aren't commodities or goods ... As in my previous example, players can be associated with employees ..

Sure players value increases depending on the demand. I mean with teams like Madrid and Chelsea prices have soured up !!! But again, this has nothing to do with inflation ! Inflation measures and predicts future prices. Don't mix inflation with inflated ..

p.s. Let's just drop it and keep it simple ... Alves is sh1t (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Aug 28 2007, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 28 2007, 07:07 PM)
when i say inflation i'm not relating the literal inflation rate of different countries because the football word has it's own economic system in certain respects. all i'm saying is so much money is being thrown around these days so clubs have been asking for even more because of the demand and precedants that are being set every year... i mean 80m for ronaldinho +40m for wages for one player!?!?!? even tho it dont go thru, these sorta figrues are unheard of. so ya 40m is too much if you compare it to cafu in his prime cuz even he wouldnt have gone for nearly that much cuz it was 5-6 years ago, because transfer fees have gone up a lot since. if you think 40m is too much for alves now, thats fine cuz you just think he's overrated.
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Sure the football world has it's own finances ... And in today's football, with teams like Chelsea and Madrid willing to part with a fortune each summer .. Prices are bound to go up. And as u said, prices are unheard off ... SAF was complaining 2 summers ago about how expensive it is to buy players these days .. Again, Chelsea and Madrid (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And now that these billionaires are buying their stakes at EPL teams, I wont be surprised if in a couple of years these figures would be the norm (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

40M to me, is the value of proven players. i.e. Nesta would be considered around that range ...

In any case, who cares !!! I'm just here to enjoy the football (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Aug 29 2007, 04:50 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 28 2007, 11:30 AM)
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Sure the football world has it's own finances ... And in today's football, with teams like Chelsea and Madrid willing to part with a fortune each summer .. Prices are bound to go up. And as u said, prices are unheard off ... SAF was complaining 2 summers ago about how expensive it is to buy players these days .. Again, Chelsea and Madrid (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And now that these billionaires are buying their stakes at EPL teams, I wont be surprised if in a couple of years these figures would be the norm (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

40M to me, is the value of proven players. i.e. Nesta would be considered around that range ...

In any case, who cares !!! I'm just here to enjoy the football  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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hehe i think we're all here for the same reason (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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