[dst]

Then what, did you sleep with him?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Well the last time we bid against chelsea it was 1-0 to milan. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

Milan: kaka'

Chelsea: -

Why not make it 2-0, I think the reality is if we offer what they do we'll get him easily. Perfect environment here for him to refine all those skills and potential he has. Surely we would not loan him out, thats the key though, letting him develop in milanello.

[jbryant1]

In the long run we will regret not getting Pato if we lose out to Chelsea and Madrid.

He will be a superstar.

If we lose out on this player I doubt we will get anyone in this transfer market.

[jbryant1]

Chelsea Bid For Pato

Whats funny about all of this is that Chelsea are bidding big for Alves, Pato, and Malouda. Previously they stated that they weren't going to get many reinforcements but a defender and a striker. Roman said they would only spend on their youth camp and not invest in foreign talent for a while.

Whats up with us? We are richer than Chelsea and aren't even close to the debt they are in. We should be more aggressive in the transfer window. We did good in January with Ronaldo and Oddo but we could use some new top talent.

[m1ke]

The losses Chelsea make every year are laughable.

[han2503]

I think we all know that if it came down to Pato to choose between Milan, Chelsea and Inter he would choose us in a heartbeat.

But we can't expect him to drop in our hands without us making any sort of effort to sign him. We have to be agressive, or we will lose out once again like we have been doing these past couple of tranfer sessions

[Rossoneri7]

I think we all know that if it came down to Pato to choose between Milan, Chelsea and Inter he would choose us in a heartbeat.

But we can't expect him to drop in our hands without us making any sort of effort to sign him. We have to be agressive, or we will lose out once again like we have been doing these past couple of tranfer sessions

I do agree that if there is a club he (anyone) would sign for, it would be the European Champions - especially with stars like Kaka' and Ronaldo, the attraction is so great.

But i don't agree in that Milan are not agressive in the transfer market. Milan are totally agressive, they might not be too public with their movments .. But it is this same board that has maintained the team for 21 years now. And in that time Milan has aquired the best of the best, in every department on the field.

They might not get involved with certain players whom we (milanfans) dream of, but they assess their options wisely and are experts in their field (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If Milan truely want him .. They will bring him in one way or another expect him to be wearing a Rossoneri shirt.

I think Milan is in safe hands .. If Pato doesn't come, then it would be for the best IMO -not cuz I don't like him, but cuz they assessed him and decided otherwise.

U know all this already ... But I just wanted to point out that we all want certain players ... I wanted Torres, since last summer ... But I do believe that it is for the best of THIS team that he went to Liverpool. Cuz you never know what their reasoning might be. But know one thing, this team will end next season with at least two titles (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Good post R7, definitely tend to agree with that.

I think its just cause were seeing all the other big clubs getting this big acquisitions to their squads. So its like wtf are we doing, particularly with all the competitions we have this season. In all fairness your right, cannot question the management, they know what there doing. Even if it seems like a board rooms of idiots at times.

[han2503]

I do agree that if there is a club he (anyone) would sign for, it would be the European Champions - especially with stars like Kaka' and Ronaldo, the attraction is so great.

But i don't agree in that Milan are not agressive in the transfer market. Milan are totally agressive, they might not be too public with their movments .. But it is this same board that has maintained the team for 21 years now. And in that time Milan has aquired the best of the best, in every department on the field.

They might not get involved with certain players whom we (milanfans) dream of, but they assess their options wisely and are experts in their field (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If Milan truely want him .. They will bring him in one way or another expect him to be wearing a Rossoneri shirt.

I think Milan is in safe hands .. If Pato doesn't come, then it would be for the best IMO -not cuz I don't like him, but cuz they assessed him and decided otherwise.

U know all this already ... But I just wanted to point out that we all want certain players ... I wanted Torres, since last summer ... But I do believe that it is for the best of THIS team that he went to Liverpool. Cuz you never know what their reasoning might be. But know one thing, this team will end next season with at least two titles (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

I know all that and I do agree with you. But you have to admit that these days we are getting beat for certain players that we really want and go after and in the end they end up somewhere else.

I know Galliani likes to haggle as long as it takes to spend the right price on players that he thinks are over priced, but the transfer market has changed a lot and he should know as well as anybody else that clubs like Chelsea, Inter or Real won't hesitate to spend whatever amount to get the player they want even if they are over priced.

[mkenya]

I know all that and I do agree with you. But you have to admit that these days we are getting beat for certain players that we really want and go after and in the end they end up somewhere else.

I know Galliani likes to haggle as long as it takes to spend the right price on players that he thinks are over priced, but the transfer market has changed a lot and he should know as well as anybody else that clubs like Chelsea, Inter or Real won't hesitate to spend whatever amount to get the player they want even if they are over priced.

Lets face it! we are not being aggressive enough in the market. How long does it take to assess and sign a player? The management has been following Pato from last year! Another thing is that we do not go for youth and the youth we have are not given a chance! Wonder why nobody wants to join Milan anymore??

Look at our defence, nobody can run..remember Athens? Pennant shining for heaven's sake!

We lack excitement, without Kaka we go nowhere, our strikers simply suck, our midfielders are so defensive...we are actually a boring team..Wonder why nobody wants to join Milan anymore??

I'm bored, seems like its gonna be the same old story..we'll waste time till last week of August and we will end up paying more for whoever we'll have set our eyes on and they'll turn out to be mediocre signings. That's Milan for you.

[dst]

@mkenya: Boring?? Are you kidding me?? You are judging based on what? The final?? Or the constipated period before Christmas... why not base your opinion based on our second half of the season displays with the climax being the 2nd leg semi-final versus United?? Was that boring?

Milan are certainly not boring, we play great football, which is what drove me into loving this team in the first place... maybe you prefer the EPL style where the winger runs like a crazy b!tch towards the corner flag every single time he gets the ball even if his team's forwards are dead!! We all saw how effective that is, in CR's amazing runs in the games against us... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Pennant was shining in the final because Jankulovski is Milan's most fielded player and came from a World Cup and an injury-plagued season without preparation... meaning, he resumed playing without being able to play continuously for 11 months!! And he did it! And he was great at it!!

Everyone wants to join Milan!! It's just that Milan have payed sh!t...

@Rosssoneri7: yeah this "patriotic" talk is all good but even Galliani admitted he lost Ibra to Inter last season... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) That's not aggressive! You are kidding yourself!

And about Milan's transfers in general: Milan always buy great players!! But they're never considered so great cause Milan never cared to hype them up! It's the result that matter most for us... Oddo for example, is better than 99% of the world's RB's... when was the last time you read in the newspapers (which Silvio can also manipulate like other teams do) how great a player Oddo is!?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Jul 6 2007, 02:19 PM

[Milan Are Brilli...]

Milan are certainly not boring, we play great football, which is what drove me into loving this team in the first place... maybe you prefer the EPL style where the winger runs like a crazy b!tch towards the corner flag every single time he gets the ball even if his team's forwards are dead!! We all saw how effective that is, in CR's amazing runs in the games against us...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

No, Milan aren't boring at all, we have far more English mentality when it comes to playing than the Italian style though of going 1-0 up and holding it, probably because if we do that now we know we will lose! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yeah but Pennant gave us a going over in the final using that tactic - Jermaine Pennant for god sake, that shouldn't be happening!

[mkenya]

Hey cool it dst! I hate EPL, I cant stand the long crosses to wingers and the 45 degrees cross from the corner flag only for the striker to head home or connect with the ball in some way..(rude boy style!).

Our style of play is classy, good possession, nice touches, especially Milan-Man U. I wish we could always play like that! We were dead the major part of the season though and Kaka's brilliance pushed us through.

May be its time we stop relying on Kaka, get more young attack minded midfielders and someone to at least replace Maldini..

Btw did you notice the same thing when we were relying on Sheva..? Milan seemed dead when Sheva wasn't playing..

My contention is that we need younger players and I do not understand why we haven't signed Pato yet!

This post has been edited by mkenya: Jul 6 2007, 03:38 PM

[Zed.D]

Nobody can deny Maldini was awfully disappointing in Athens... He didn't do anything special. it was Nesta who saved our @ss over and over again. just go on and watch the final one more time and focus your attention on Maldini's play and you'll know what I mean...

Maldini should have retired after winning the CL... there's no point in going on and on after having such magnificent career. does he really need another CL or European Supercup or even Intercontinental title?!! let's not kid ourselves, he 40 and he can't perform like he used to, no matter how great he is.

I hope you don't get me wrong, cause I love Maldini as much as you do, but I think it was better for him to retire and free a place for a younger defender.

This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: Jul 6 2007, 03:43 PM

[Rossoneri7]

I know all that and I do agree with you. But you have to admit that these days we are getting beat for certain players that we really want and go after and in the end they end up somewhere else.

I know Galliani likes to haggle as long as it takes to spend the right price on players that he thinks are over priced, but the transfer market has changed a lot and he should know as well as anybody else that clubs like Chelsea, Inter or Real won't hesitate to spend whatever amount to get the player they want even if they are over priced.

That is why Inter are in a HUGE debt (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Milan is a healthy organization ... They wont throw away $$ like nickles and dimes. If a player is truely worth it, no one can compete with what AC Milan has to offer, especially being the European champions (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It is one thing to be biased and call Galliani a cheap skate .. But it is another in saying that Milan can't compete with Chelsea, Inter and Madrid.

There is something u r not seeing in all of this han, this club is a family more than anything else. You look at other clubs, and the teams act like machines .. Just each player trying to get a share of the lime light. I believe this is why Shevchenko suffered in England.

Milan has a unique atmosphere, and the ONLY reason this team has been playing on a high note for the past 6 to 7 years is because of the managment !

If Milan passed up Suazo, then I am guarenteeing ALL OF YOU that there is a BIG player coming in this summer. But above all, Milan has proven to be a very effective team and managment (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

You might be pissed off at Galliani and co. for not going for this player or for not coming out in the media about what they are doing or whatever u might be pissed about (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ... Know this, whatever is cooking in their kitchen, it is HUGE.

Take an example of Ronaldo, Galliani and Berlusconi wanted Ronaldo since God knows when. And they got him !

Milan's transfer starategy is better than that of Madrid !! They don't over-pay and are rarely seen making a move, which makes them a very exclusive club (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

han .. Do u honestly think Chelsea can out bid Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Milan are the KINGS of negotiations, u forgot Shevchenko and the 30M (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This managment has been around longer than any other around ... They have complete control of all situations IMO (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

@Rosssoneri7: yeah this "patriotic" talk is all good but even Galliani admitted he lost Ibra to Inter last season...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) That's not aggressive! You are kidding yourself!

Weren't we gonna be demoted during his transfer to La Merda (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ...

And why is it a patriotic talk ?! I am just speaking the truth. What is everyone gonna do ? Kick Silvio out ?! Give me a break