[Bluesummers]

So if we were roma fans habitant, would you be content with oh well we had no luck and couldn't finish. Man u deserve to win.

[Habitant]

it doesnt matter whether rroma awarded them goals or not.  I'm trying to say when your playing a CL QF at your home and progress depends on you winning then that doesnt mean you risk playing players who regularly start.  A child could see that taddei was a clear tactical error on spalletti's part.  I would have opted for cicinho to start instead of tonneto but roma don't really have a LB so it is difficult for them to manuever something tactically around that.  IF guily had started, it would have been a much different result.

Remember a coach's/manager's decisions have a huge impact on the game and its not just oh well they couldn't finish, its too bad.

theres a reason why taddei and tonetto play more games than giuly and cincinho, it's because their better so spalletti played d his best hand. it turned out to be the wrong one but if carlo starts oddo and he stinks (whihc has happened many times) and cafu comes on and plays well it's easy to say he should have started in the first place.

[Habitant]

So if we were roma fans habitant, would you be content with oh well we had no luck and couldn't finish.  Man u deserve to win.

no but the only reason man u won was cuz roma couldn't finish so i dont see how would qualify as a deserved win. the point is it's not spallettis fault thast they couldnt finish and it was the deciding the factor. roma played better than roma, but credit to man u for shutting them down well but they dint do much to deserve the win.

[Bluesummers]

theres a reason why taddei and tonetto play more games than giuly and cincinho, it's because their better so spalletti played d his best hand. it turned out to be the wrong one but if carlo starts oddo and he stinks (whihc has happened many times) and cafu comes on and plays well it's easy to say he should have started in the first place.

i am gonna go against you on that one. Spalletti should be playing players with pace because he knew he had to win or he was out. Taddei perhaps is better than guily and didn't have a good game but in the end that is not a good enough excuse. A coach of his level should be able to predict the result and see how the game will be played out. Mourinho could predict barca's line up a month before the actual game was played and how it would be played. He should have played guili from the start. He can't be cautious and careful in his own home. Whats he gonna do when hes in OT; all out attack control game? LOL

In the case of oddo and cafu, your right but also wrong. The thing with carlo is that he would sub oddo out at halftime and prevent mistakes from taking place, where in this case spalletti pretty much played the "hope" card and thought they could score and they should have.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Apr 2 2008, 12:13 AM

[Habitant]

i am gonna go against you on that one.  Spalletti should be playing players with pace because he knew he had to win or he was out.  Taddei perhaps is better than guily and didn't have a good game but in the end that is not a good enough excuse.  A coach of his level should be able to predict the result and see how the game will be played out.  Mourinho could predict barca's line up a month before the actual game was played and how it would be played.  He should have played guili from the start.  He can't be cautious and careful in his own home.  Whats he gonna do when hes in OT; all out attack control game?  LOL

who said he needed pace? it's easy to say things like that in 20/20 Hindsight. HAHAHA predict the results??? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i know because it's that easy.then where has carlo been all season? a coach of his level should be getting the tactics right, hwo come we havent been able to break down a defensive team all season? theres always gonna be a loser, and in this case spalletti dint help, i guess that makes him a horrible coach now.

In the case of oddo and cafu, your right but also wrong.  The thing with carlo is that he would sub oddo out at halftime and prevent mistakes from taking place, where in this case spalletti pretty much played the "hope" card and thought they could score and they should have.

because he's done a lot of that this season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Habitant: Apr 2 2008, 12:27 AM

[Bluesummers]

who said he needed pace? it's easy to say things like that in 20/20 Hindsight. HAHAHA predict the results??? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i know because it's that easy.then where has carlo been all season? a coach of his level should be getting the tactics right, hwo come we havent been able to break down a defensive team all season? theres always gonna be a loser, and in this case spalletti dint help, i guess that makes him a horrible coach now.
because he's done a lot of that this season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

last game, eventhough we lost, he still made changes. Plus our bench compared to spaelettis is a laughing matter. Our best player is gourcuff while they have guily, cicinho and most of the time vucinic who is fastly becoming a worldclass striker, on his bench. he should do better.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Apr 2 2008, 12:33 AM

[kurtsimonw]

So Ronaldo isn't a winger? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

van Der Sar

Brown - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra

Ronaldo - Carrick - Scholes - Giggs

Rooney - Tevez

This is the formation they use alot. So if Ronaldo is a forward, who on earth covers the right flank? Or do they leave it to the almighty Wes Brown? If Ronaldo is a forward, United would not be top of the league, teams would just kill them down their right.

[Bluesummers]

So Ronaldo isn't a winger?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

van Der Sar

Brown - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra

Ronaldo - Carrick - Scholes - Giggs

Rooney - Tevez

This is the formation they use alot. So if Ronaldo is a forward, who on earth covers the right flank? Or do they leave it to the almighty Wes Brown? If Ronaldo is a forward, United would not be top of the league, teams would just kill them down their right.

your joking right (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ?

[kurtsimonw]

About what? That Ronaldo is a forward and then Brown is almighty? Yes.

[Habitant]

last game, eventhough we lost, he still made changes.  Plus our bench compared to spaelettis is a laughing matter.  Our best player is gourcuff while they have guily, cicinho and most of the time vucinic who is fastly becoming a worldclass striker, on his bench.  he should do better.

so he made changes? thats it, i should give him an award for that. spalletti made changes, i could make subtitions as well.

LMAO vucinic becoming world class? he's scored 6 since being with roma (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) with 52 app (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and i've seeen him play several times he's nothing special. if anything gila is world class compared to vucinic.

milan may be cheap at times but at least we opened the bank book on pato which is something roma dont do. so spalletti works with smaller transfer budget than carlo.

oh and he is doing miles better, 2nd in the league (would be 1st if it wasnt for the refs helping inter). and farther in the CL this season.

This post has been edited by Habitant: Apr 2 2008, 03:38 AM

[Bluesummers]

so he made changes? thats it, i should give him an award for that. spalletti made changes, i could make subtitions as well.

LMAO vucinic becoming world class? he's scored 6 since being with roma (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) with 52 app (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and i've seeen him play several times he's nothing special. if anything gila is world class compared to vucinic.

milan may be cheap at times but at least we opened the bank book on pato which is something roma dont do. so spalletti works with smaller transfer budget than carlo.

oh and he is doing miles better, 2nd in the league (would be 1st if it wasnt for the refs helping inter). and farther in the CL this season.

lol imo vucinic> 1billion gilas. Manu could barely contain him today. Thats true with spalletti this year but remember until maybe march we couldn't care less for the league because carlo apparently thought he could win it twice (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[dst]

So Ronaldo isn't a winger?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

van Der Sar

Brown - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra

Ronaldo - Carrick - Scholes - Giggs

Rooney - Tevez

This is the formation they use alot. So if Ronaldo is a forward, who on earth covers the right flank? Or do they leave it to the almighty Wes Brown? If Ronaldo is a forward, United would not be top of the league, teams would just kill them down their right.

Yeah if football was this
(IMG:http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41989000/jpg/_41989544_table_football_pa_416.jpg)
you'd be right... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Zed.D]

Yeah if football was this
(IMG:http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41989000/jpg/_41989544_table_football_pa_416.jpg)
you'd be right...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Priceless!

[Jack Sparrow]

You mean it isn't??

Put in on the computer and you get PES right? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Yeah if football was this
(IMG:http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41989000/jpg/_41989544_table_football_pa_416.jpg)
you'd be right...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But it still doesn't change the fact that he's plays as a RM! Obviously he can move around, but he will mainly attack from the right. Otherwise, like I said, he'd be out of position and United would be easier to attack from that side.