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Apr 20 2013, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Apr 20 2013, 04:19 PM)  It's not about WHO should be butthurt but who is OBVIOUSLY ACTING butthurt. We have a thousand and one problems, but we don't talk about the guy left and right. We let him do his thing in peace. It's not too much to ask to ask the same in return.
OK fine it's his autobiography... YOU GOT ME! Except not, he has been mentioning us every other interview since he left.
And let me just mention that players have been treated FAR FAR worse than this by their favorite clubs and they usually move on like professionals. It's like we forcefully SOLD the guy... He wanted one thing and Idiotta Allegri wanted another thing. He left for free and we let him go. What's the big f@cking fuss Mr. Pirlo? And you were playing like $hit for years before you left and had become defensive liability. You went to Juventus all angry grew your pubes out and your beard and got your mojo back? Good for you. No one holds it against you! Good on you to have your motivation back and a passionate coach above you. Good. But STOP talking $hit now. Be grateful for what Milan gave you also. And move the f@ck on you hurt little girl. It's OK. Milan didn't torture you. Time came for you to go your separate way. That's it. No drama. No hassle. F@ck off. Thank you. Well, yeah, he could act a bit more professional about it, you're right. However, for some reason, his comments don't bother me in the slightest. Probably because when I think of Pirlo, I think of his magical seasons with us, and that makes me smile.
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Apr 20 2013, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 20 2013, 10:12 PM)  I don't think playing for Brazil is once what it was. They have some pretty average players for what you'd expect from Brazil. True, true, but my point is that when it comes to creativity, he is unmatched. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Creativity as in vision. The guy can create for other players at will, while other midfielders have to be at their best to match his through balls and passes. And that is the reason why he is still in contention for the Seleção. Motivation be damned, if Ronaldinho was still here and played to half his potential, we'd have won the league this season and the one before it, without too much of a fuss. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) In matches where we stumbled, against small teams where we drew, or lost points, his sparks or genius with good finishing would have made all the difference. Is he the player he was at his peak? Nope, nowhere near that level. But he's still good at this age, still good.
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Apr 20 2013, 09:01 PM
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Pirlo the judas complaining about only getting a pen after his years at Milan (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Talking about how Conte>>> Sacchi (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This guy is beyond scum
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Apr 21 2013, 04:48 AM
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I hope whenever we have days honouring our greats of recent years like Sheva, Kaka', Rui Costa, Nesta, etc. that he's not invited. As far as I'm concerned he's burned all bridges with the club. Spent the last 5 years of his Milan career essentially stealing money, because he sure as hell didn't earn it, then talks like this? He'd do well to remember why he didn't spend his career rotting at Inter.
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Apr 21 2013, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 21 2013, 09:18 AM)  I hope whenever we have days honouring our greats of recent years like Sheva, Kaka', Rui Costa, Nesta, etc. that he's not invited. As far as I'm concerned he's burned all bridges with the club. Spent the last 5 years of his Milan career essentially stealing money, because he sure as hell didn't earn it, then talks like this? He'd do well to remember why he didn't spend his career rotting at Inter. Of course we won't. he moved for free to our direct rival and has been badmouthing us ever since.
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Apr 21 2013, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 20 2013, 02:11 PM)  True, true, but my point is that when it comes to creativity, he is unmatched. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Creativity as in vision. The guy can create for other players at will, while other midfielders have to be at their best to match his through balls and passes. And that is the reason why he is still in contention for the Seleção. Motivation be damned, if Ronaldinho was still here and played to half his potential, we'd have won the league this season and the one before it, without too much of a fuss. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) In matches where we stumbled, against small teams where we drew, or lost points, his sparks or genius with good finishing would have made all the difference. Is he the player he was at his peak? Nope, nowhere near that level. But he's still good at this age, still good. Did you even watch the team during Ronaldinho's last season? We were terrible and a large part of it was Ronaldinho under performing. He can do fancy tricks and flicks all day but he is nonexistent defensively and can't carry a team like a true star. If you don't remember we didnt come close to winning the league when he was here. It's insulting to the team to say that he would have won it for us the past two years.
This post has been edited by milanbuf88: Apr 21 2013, 06:19 PM
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Apr 21 2013, 06:32 PM
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In his last full season here (Leonardo) we were this close to overtaking Inter. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) It all unraveled in the next few matches, but at least we made CL easily. And you have to consider the idiotic positions and starts to wrong players given by Leonardo. That's not to say we got close because of Ronaldinho, we got close with him. Same was the case in his next six months with the club. Ibra wanted him out at all costs, so he could be the biggest name in the team. And well he got his wish because everyone in the management was tired of the guy and his attitude on the pitch. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Oh, and his high wages were an important factor in his exit as well. Fancy tricks or not, the guy create a dozen chances (most of the time) during any random 90 minutes. That's more than what can be said of all our midfield combined these days. Mostly because they are brainless brute, with only Montolivo possessing a thing called vision. That is why I wanted Aquilani to partner him upfront. Because no matter what people say, Aquilani can create the final ball. Him and Montolivo linking up would have been massive, with two dogs (ball gatherers) on either side. Nevertheless, it seems that most have grown accustomed to having a broken and disjointed team - and that is the reason we are winning diddlysquat. Even right now we have a few good players, a whole bunch of mediocre ones, and one or two champions.
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Apr 22 2013, 10:41 AM
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Spot on my friend.
I can't understand how we can easily condemn Pirlo by saying he sucked his last two seasons with us. He's a maestro for god sake, and our team went from a stable Ancelotti lullaby to Leonardo's AC Brazil and back to a Allegri-minded Milan, whatever that means. As a focal point of the team, he surely had to adapt first, and especially Allegri didn't exactly give him the time for this move.
The fact that Pirlo is still talking about Milan says you all - it did hurt him in some way and you can see it's still important to him. Only he's a maestro and he's much more egocentric then Gattuso or Nesta, so his comments end up being spiteful and so. But the bottom line is I don't agree with Galliani. I think he really was unfair with Pirlo; we have implemented this "family club" strategy for years back-to-back, and to make the Pirlo case a deal-breaker was simply put unfair.
In fact, I don't like how Galliani is shifting from one extremity to another. Almost everything what made Milan special for so many years has been undone by him and Allegri (and Berlusconi as well) in the past few years. All we have left now is memories, history and this Milan aura. But in fact we present almost nothing different to other teams.
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Apr 22 2013, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 22 2013, 03:41 PM)  Spot on my friend.
I can't understand how we can easily condemn Pirlo by saying he sucked his last two seasons with us. He's a maestro for god sake, and our team went from a stable Ancelotti lullaby to Leonardo's AC Brazil and back to a Allegri-minded Milan, whatever that means. As a focal point of the team, he surely had to adapt first, and especially Allegri didn't exactly give him the time for this move.
The fact that Pirlo is still talking about Milan says you all - it did hurt him in some way and you can see it's still important to him. Only he's a maestro and he's much more egocentric then Gattuso or Nesta, so his comments end up being spiteful and so. But the bottom line is I don't agree with Galliani. I think he really was unfair with Pirlo; we have implemented this "family club" strategy for years back-to-back, and to make the Pirlo case a deal-breaker was simply put unfair.
In fact, I don't like how Galliani is shifting from one extremity to another. Almost everything what made Milan special for so many years has been undone by him and Allegri (and Berlusconi as well) in the past few years. All we have left now is memories, history and this Milan aura. But in fact we present almost nothing different to other teams. Thank you! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) The solution is simple, part ways with the One Who Does Not Belong. As you and most others have been saying, the season's end is the best way to say goodbye to Allegri and his Small Club Mentality™. It's not his fault that he never has had to deal with visionary players in his teams before. It's Galliani's fault for bringing him in, when better options were available. If the bald one goes with him, I'd not shed a tear. In fact, I'd be even more happy seeing Galliani leave than just Allegri. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Longest of shots, I know, but at least it would give hope that we'll run a club like other successful ones are doing son. Fester has just become a lethal mixture of sentiment and senility. That, or the world has moved beyond the time he lives in. This just isn't the 80s, 90s or early 2000s.
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Apr 22 2013, 12:29 PM
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Well, I wouldn't be so harsh. Beside Ulli Hoeness, he still works magic when it comes to making deals. He really is a good negotiator, but he lacks clear vision in terms of substance. We need someone fresh and young to fill in this kind of job; Berlusconi clearly can't be relied upon. So my solution would be: keep Silvio as kind of Lord Protector, and keep Galliani as the internal leader figure. But bring in a new coach and a new person in management, like Maldini, who would add up freshness and a new plan.
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Apr 30 2013, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE Andrea Pirlo says he was close to joining Chelsea in the past, but the move was blocked by Milan chief Silvio Berlusconi.
The 33-year-old, now at Juventus, made the revelation in an interview with Sky Sport Italia where he also spoke of interest from Real Madrid.
“I think that I was close to a move to Chelsea and Real,” he noted. “I had already agreed terms with the London club, but then Berlusconi intervened and I remained at Milan.”
The playmaker spent a decade with the Diavolo until he joined Juve in 2011 on a free transfer once his contract had expired.
“I have no kind of regrets about leaving Milan,” he continued. “I needed a change and the best thing was to go and play somewhere else.
“It was also a good decision by the Rossoneri too seeing as they got other players in my role. I’m happy that I accepted a Juve move.”
Pirlo is coming towards the end of his career, but he has admitted that he could choose to remain in the game thanks to boss Antonio Conte.
“He’s surprised me on a tactical level and the way he works on a daily basis, I’ve learned a lot from him.
“I previously didn’t want to become a Coach, but I could decide to now because of what he has taught me.”
Pirlo will collect his second successive Scudetto in Turin if Juve get a point against Palermo on Sunday. FI
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