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 May 21 2011, 02:04 AM
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Allievi Regionali B  Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705  |
I think it was a mix of few things. Milan wanted to offer him a one year deal like the rest of veterans got but he wanted at least 3 (like he's gonna get at Juve). Plus he wasn't enthusiastic about his new role and Max was o.k with him leaving. It was mutual deperture (Pirlo said it himself) that will be good for both sides.
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May 21 2011, 02:10 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ May 21 2011, 03:04 AM)  I think it was a mix of few things. Milan wanted to offer him a one year deal like the rest of veterans got but he wanted at least 3 (like he's gonna get at Juve). Plus he wasn't enthusiastic about his new role and Max was o.k with him leaving. It was mutual deperture (Pirlo said it himself) that will be good for both sides. Exactly. You depicted it very nicely. We didn't want him to leave, but we weren't against his departure either. I think Pirlo's will played the most important part. Like you said, he wasn't very enthusiastic about his new contract and role, so he decided to try a new adventure. This post has been edited by X-Offender: May 21 2011, 02:12 AM |
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May 21 2011, 07:42 AM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
I can't believe some of the posts in the previous page. full of bias, double standards and hypocrisy. and don't ask me 'who, which ones'. you know damn well yourselves!
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May 21 2011, 08:55 AM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Which one? Those are serious accusations, and since I mentioned Pato back there, it could very well mean,...
Anyway, I know Pirlo for 10 years while Allegri for only 1. I'm bound to believe more that it's Allegri's fault and that he simply posed to him a problem, which he solved similarly to Ronaldinho. I see a pattern. Of course, that doesn't mean Allegri is 100% responsible and Andrea is an angel. I only think that Milan could have kept Pirlo and that his stay wouldn't be a burden to the team. |
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May 21 2011, 09:16 AM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
No no. I hadn't even read that line you wrote about Pato when I posted that.
I can't say which ones though. forget it. I just think you guys need to relax. Pirlo is gone and no one knows for sure why. we can only assume it was a mutual agreement, so stop pointing fingers... |
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May 21 2011, 10:56 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Dracoris @ May 20 2011, 08:04 PM) Ah drat! You got me Han! I guess I'll change my mind now and you were right this whole time. Not. http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial...ant-theres-life "He was injured" -- He was healthy enough to play 4 more games than Van Bommel. "He wins us more games" -- With 4 more games than having a true DM we scored less, and conceded more. A LOT more. "He was good on the left" -- Maybe so, but we still won MORE games without him. lol I knew you would come at me with that BS goal.com stat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) When you in fact said in the last 3 seasons, which is complete cr@p btw. Show me some real stats!!! As for the one you showed me, it doesn't really have any basis to it. When Pirlo played on the left we were strong both defensively and offensively. Also Pirlo mostly played at the beginning of the season where Allegri barely knew what the hell he was doing, changing line-ups, formations and tactics every week. That doesn't really bode for stability within the team and it ridiculous that you would pin that on Pirlo, talk about a desperate argument when you see one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Anyways, I have nothing else to say to you and Chu, you obviously both wanted Pirlo out, and are coming up with the most ridiculous arguments to back that up. Saying good riddance when it comes to Pirlo is just something I canot accept from true Milan fans, Pirlo one of our best servants and players of the last decade, a true world class player and saying good riddance for that. But we're fighting to keep Ambro and Rino (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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May 21 2011, 02:51 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,601 Joined: 22-February 10 Member No.: 7,230 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 21 2011, 11:56 AM) But we're fighting to keep Ambro and Rino (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Both are more worthwhile than Pirlo is. |
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May 21 2011, 03:13 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
Not even going to justify that reply or any other one of your comments about Pirlo with an answer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 21 2011, 03:15 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
I don't get you. You say good riddance to Pirlo but at earlier on commented how disappointed you are with him going to Juventus. You hold on to this statistic like it's some deep study of Pirlo's influence on Milan's play and mentality. You disregard 9 seasons prior to this only make a theory more plausible. What's next, is Pirlo on Emerson's level now? Or what? I mean, if you rate Ambro and Rino higher then Andrea, what spot is he holding to you?
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May 21 2011, 03:21 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 6,098 Joined: 24-February 10 From: Lebanon Member No.: 7,239 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ May 21 2011, 04:51 PM) Both are more worthwhile than Pirlo is. Haha. |
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May 21 2011, 03:23 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,601 Joined: 22-February 10 Member No.: 7,230 |
I'm disappointed several people disagreeing with my latest statement. From han it was expected of course...
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 21 2011, 04:13 PM) Not even going to justify that reply or any other one of your comments about Pirlo with an answer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) That's okay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I wouldn't be able to do so either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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May 21 2011, 03:53 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,083 Joined: 10-August 09 From: South Carolina Member No.: 6,716 |
I can't argue with people who disregard fact. You can call that page BS all you want but its pure fact on paper. So, forget it. I can't take your arguments seriously because they are driven emotionally and not necessarily logically. Its a recipe for disaster and I'm not going to make anyone hate me.
Sorry. p.s. Two years ago Pirlo was injured under Ancellotti. Seedorf played in his position and we won more games without him than with him. I'm not going to show you any stats because it will just be a waste of my time. Look it up if you want, but anyone with a proper memory will know its true already. That is why I said 3 years. That is also about the time since our last CL when, I think it at least used to be regarded by the Milan public that our old guard, including Pirlo, started drastically dropping their performance level. This post has been edited by Dracoris: May 21 2011, 03:58 PM |
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May 21 2011, 03:55 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ May 21 2011, 03:23 PM) I'm disappointed several people disagreeing with my latest statement. From han it was expected of course... That's because your assesment is only based on your biased personal oppinion. I find it hard to count more then 5 people who are Milan fans which have the same oppinion as you do on Pirlo. |
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May 21 2011, 03:58 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Dracoris @ May 21 2011, 02:53 PM) I can't argue with people who disregard fact. You can call that page BS all you want but its pure fact on paper. So, forget it. Lol! Look at the facts behind those statistics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I already pointed them out to you yet you ignored it and pointed back to a stupid peice provided by none other then the respected football editiorial also known as goal.com (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Woohoo to you my friend. You said, and I quote "milan have won more games in the last 3 years when Pirlo was out" I asked you for stats and you come at me with the goal.com link which only points to this season. When Pirlo was injured and when he was fit the team had still yet to find their true shape under Allegri so we were constanly under influx. I still clearly remember last seaosn how the team fell apart when Pirlo and Pato got injured. How does this prove your point exactly? And under Carlo Pirlo was always the most played player in the team, no contest, we could barely function without him, let alone win more games (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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May 21 2011, 03:59 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,083 Joined: 10-August 09 From: South Carolina Member No.: 6,716 |
Deleted Post. no sense in this.
This post has been edited by Dracoris: May 21 2011, 04:08 PM |
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