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 Apr 11 2007, 12:20 PM
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Berretti  Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347  |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 11 2007, 01:01 AM) Actually it's all money off a bank loan! A 700m pounds bank loan!! No cash from the Americans... there's a slight chance they could go bankrupt, I'm already praying for that to happen!! Almost every single billionare, in their clubs, do not use his money "directly". It's usually bank loan. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Apr 11 2007, 12:23 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 11 2007, 01:20 PM) Almost every single billionare, in their clubs, do not use his money "directly". It's usually bank loan. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)  Are you kidding me?? Those guys loaned out ALL the money they're going to use... even the Glazer bros put on money of their own!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Apr 11 2007, 12:23 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 11 2007, 02:20 PM) Almost every single billionare, in their clubs, do not use his money "directly". It's usually bank loan. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Actually, that's how almost everything is dealt with (Not just football..) .. take a loan and insure it with ur assets .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 11 2007, 12:25 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 11 2007, 01:23 PM) Actually, that's how almost everything is dealt with (Not just football..) .. take a loan and insure it with ur assets .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yes but this is 750m pounds... nobody's done that before in the football business. This post has been edited by dst: Apr 11 2007, 12:26 PM |
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Apr 11 2007, 12:34 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 11 2007, 02:25 PM) Yes but this is 750m pounds... nobody's done that before in the football business. Well, I'm not talking just football. In general, if u have assets that u can put for insurance, u can get a loan. Depending on how much assets u have u can get $$ loan. So if a billionaire wants a loan, 750m I'm sure he can cover it .. cuz in the end, millions to billionaires is like thousands to to ur average Joe |
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Apr 11 2007, 12:35 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 11 2007, 12:23 PM) Are you kidding me?? Those guys loaned out ALL the money they're going to use... even the Glazer bros put on money of their own!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Believe in whatever you want. But the last part is hilarious dude, and I don't even need to say why. Kaka_Is_Brilliant is the ManUtd's official down here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) - you can ask him about the amazing job the Glazer family is doing in Manchester United. |
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Apr 11 2007, 12:51 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 11 2007, 12:41 PM) Laugh all you want pal... This is a freaking fact. The loaned out all that money. I didn't say that Liverpool are risking anything, I said I'm praying for it!! It's not about that damn it. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE even the Glazer bros put on money of their own!! It's about the Glazer family. What you said... it seems that they're doing a pretty good job there. Well, we've Brilliant who I believe knows Glazer's things better than anyone in this forum. I'm waiting for his comment. About the Liverpool... Gillett and Hicks, I asked sometime ago a Montreal Canadiens fan in this forum about their owner (Gillett). He said many good things about him (just like the United fans (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ), I was surprised TBH. Any info you want from the Liverpool owners just call bigmacmtl. He knows what he's talkin' about. At least better than the great majority of the people down here, I believe. |
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Apr 11 2007, 01:01 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 11 2007, 01:51 PM) It's about the Glazer family. What you said... What is it that I said?? I never commented on the job they're doing. I only said that even they put money and 'even' goes to the fact that United's buy out was the cheapest one in the history of football. And by that I mean they're pocket was not at all hurt... I can't even get why we're talking about the Glazers... QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 11 2007, 01:51 PM) Any info you want from the Liverpool owners just call bigmacmtl. He knows what he's talkin' about. At least better than the great majority of the people down here, I believe. I don't care about the Liverpool owners! I just said that I would be delighted to see the Merseyside club go bankrupt! I said there's a slight chance that will happen and I meant as slight as Kaladze scoring three goals in a game he's not even playing... |
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Apr 11 2007, 01:13 PM
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Berretti Group: Moderators Posts: 12,004 Joined: 1-August 05 From: Torquay Member No.: 90 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 11 2007, 11:51 AM) Well, we've Brilliant who I believe knows Glazer's things better than anyone in this forum. I'm waiting for his comment.. Haha, this is one of the things about English football I've never really got to grips with. I think how it stands currently is Manchester United on paper are about £650 million in debt. However since Glazier has been in charge the club's value has increased meaning lenders will easily invest in this. It's still a huge debt though, and yes Glazier did loan a substantial amount of it (I'm not sure how much or what percent). The Manchester United fans or most oppose/d the move due to they realised how would the debt be paid, through their pockets came to mind, higher ticket prices, merchandise etc. There were also rumors about Old Trafford being renamed to accommodate a massive sponsorship money deal to pay back a large chunk of the debt, this really annoyed the United fans why should their stadium be renamed? No one really knows anymore what United will get for transfers, you imagine they will get some but no where near what they used to due to winning trophies and revenue being put back to pay the annual £60 million of debt, if they don't it could be the worse decline of a football team ever. Whilst things are going fine now, if they stop winning and hit a few rocky seasons like previously it could be big trouble for United. I do think this would be hugely unlikely though, people are always going to follow United and put money into the club like they do Barca and Real Madrid and I think Glazier is aware of this. The hatred has died down slightly, but I for one certainly think Glazier isn't in this for the love of football, it's an investment he's not a football man he's a business man. Unfortunately for REAL football fans that's a bad sign when there clubs are used like this, fair enough if they have the money but if they don't well, Leeds United comes to mind... |
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Apr 11 2007, 01:23 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Apr 11 2007, 01:13 PM) Haha, this is one of the things about English football I've never really got to grips with. I think how it stands currently is Manchester United on paper are about £650 million in debt. However since Glazier has been in charge the club's value has increased meaning lenders will easily invest in this. It's still a huge debt though, and yes Glazier did loan a substantial amount of it (I'm not sure how much or what percent). The Manchester United fans or most oppose/d the move due to they realised how would the debt be paid, through their pockets came to mind, higher ticket prices, merchandise etc. There were also rumors about Old Trafford being renamed to accommodate a massive sponsorship money deal to pay back a large chunk of the debt, this really annoyed the United fans why should their stadium be renamed? No one really knows anymore what United will get for transfers, you imagine they will get some but no where near what they used to due to winning trophies and revenue being put back to pay the annual £60 million of debt, if they don't it could be the worse decline of a football team ever. Whilst things are going fine now, if they stop winning and hit a few rocky seasons like previously it could be big trouble for United. I do think this would be hugely unlikely though, people are always going to follow United and put money into the club like they do Barca and Real Madrid and I think Glazier is aware of this. The hatred has died down slightly, but I for one certainly think Glazier isn't in this for the love of football, it's an investment he's not a football man he's a business man. Unfortunately for REAL football fans that's a bad sign when there clubs are used like this, fair enough if they have the money but if they don't well, Leeds United comes to mind... Nice post dude. Just about the rename, I mean... a sponsor-name = $$$. Some more millions per year... and that's what matters. Sooner or later that's going to happen with United, Liverpool, Chelsea... just like the "Emirates" thing in L'Arsenal. |
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Apr 11 2007, 01:29 PM
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Berretti Group: Moderators Posts: 12,004 Joined: 1-August 05 From: Torquay Member No.: 90 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 11 2007, 12:23 PM) Just about the rename, I mean... a sponsor-name = $$$. Some more millions per year... and that's what matters. Sooner or later that's going to happen with United, Liverpool, Chelsea... just like the "Emirates" thing in L'Arsenal. Yeah it will, I guess Old Trafford is like the San Siro and Nou Camp though just so well known, whereas with Arsenal once they left Highbury, Ashburton Grove didn't have any ring to it as it was brand new so they thought we may as well just call it The Emirates. I guess most fans would come to terms with it if the club said well we will have the money to buy the likes of Villa and Ronaldinho or something, however the United fans are 95% sure a rename would just be to pay back the debt. |
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Apr 11 2007, 05:34 PM
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Berretti Group: Moderators Posts: 12,004 Joined: 1-August 05 From: Torquay Member No.: 90 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 11 2007, 12:01 AM) 16 arrests of United fans and 2 of Roma ones!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Roma's fans are pr!cks but so are some of United's so don't excuse them... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I've been told it was 11 Man United fans and 7 Roma ones 3 of the Roma ones apparently got arrested for shoplifting (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Apr 11 2007, 05:39 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Apr 11 2007, 07:34 PM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I've been told it was 11 Man United fans and 7 Roma ones 3 of the Roma ones apparently got arrested for shoplifting (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thats good, meaning they were trying to get their money back (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Apr 11 2007, 05:47 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Apr 11 2007, 06:34 PM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I've been told it was 11 Man United fans and 7 Roma ones 3 of the Roma ones apparently got arrested for shoplifting (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yes you're right. Those were the first reports I read and apparently they were wrong! QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 11 2007, 06:39 PM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thats good, meaning they were trying to get their money back (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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