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Rossoneri7
post Oct 7 2007, 01:45 AM
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I know .. But he is Sheva's equal nonetheless ...

Fragile? He suffered a lot after that horrendous injury (@inter) ... But even so, his experience and sense of direction, I mean that is something valuable. We truly have a jewel of a player, who was unfortunately in rehab and now on his way back to training.

I think Ronaldo can score give or take 20 goals this season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) I really do.

I mean look at how Milan brought Pippo back after 2 yrs of absence .. After all he is Ronaldo, the one and only Ronaldo that is (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Oct 7 2007, 01:47 AM
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He just can't produce 20 goals cause he can't play a full season without any injuries... in my opinion we never replaced Sheva!
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post Oct 7 2007, 01:55 AM
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We'll see in May if you still feel the same way
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post Oct 7 2007, 02:06 AM
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I wish I won't but I know I will...
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post Oct 7 2007, 02:43 AM
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Shevchenko in his Red and Black days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All
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post Oct 7 2007, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 7 2007, 04:43 AM)
Shevchenko in his Red and Black days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All
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To me, yes he was .. But when Galliani said Sheva will be replaced with an equal; Ronaldo is that equal. that is what I am saying
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post Oct 7 2007, 08:25 AM
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But when Galliani said Sheva will be replaced with an equal; Ronaldo is that equal. that is what I am saying


We haven't disagreed for a long time have we? But for me, it's Pato and not Ronaldo to take Sheva's place in the larger scheme of things.

There are a lot of similarities, both from lesser known clubs, beating off competition, reputation more than money playing it's part in them coming to Milan. And of course, Silvio's insistence on both. Not to mention, they were both 17 when they came in right?

And they are both gonna start in apprenticeship under two great forwards. I even half believe that this was one reason Ronaldo was brought in.
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post Oct 7 2007, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 7 2007, 10:25 AM)
We haven't disagreed for a long time have we? But for me, it's Pato and not Ronaldo to take Sheva's place in the larger scheme of things.

There are a lot of similarities, both from lesser known clubs, beating off competition, reputation more than money playing it's part in them coming to Milan. And of course, Silvio's insistence on both. Not to mention, they were both 17 when they came in right?

And they are both gonna start in apprenticeship under two great forwards. I even half believe that this was one reason Ronaldo was brought in.
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Nope not for a long time (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well, u see, when Sheva left Milan .. He left a HUGE gap to fill. No player can step up and fill that void. When Ronaldo came, you could clearly see that our game was more fluid and more concrete, thus that void was filled.

Sheva's equal doesn't mean that someone has to start his career the way Sheva did at Milan (no he was a bit older and a bit more experienced when he came to Milan..) ... They meant to keep the team moving the way it did by bringing in someone who can fill in his shoes. Someone with experience, a star, a protagonist, etc ..

Pato getting the number 7 shirt means that he will be taking over the reigns from Shevchenko. That will be a HUGE obstacle for him to takle. Oliveira couldn't do it, let's hope our new wonder kid can (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But to call him Sheva's equal, I mean, he has yet to prove himself. But yes, Ronaldo is supposed to keep tabs on him and take him under his wing, that is how it looks like (as Rui did to Kaka').
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post Oct 7 2007, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 7 2007, 08:25 AM)
We haven't disagreed for a long time have we? But for me, it's Pato and not Ronaldo to take Sheva's place in the larger scheme of things.

There are a lot of similarities, both from lesser known clubs, beating off competition, reputation more than money playing it's part in them coming to Milan. And of course, Silvio's insistence on both. Not to mention, they were both 17 when they came in right?

And they are both gonna start in apprenticeship under two great forwards. I even half believe that this was one reason Ronaldo was brought in.
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R7 has a point,..

Pato is 17, Sheva was 21/22. He allready played in the CL and for the NT. But yes, the situation was very near to the one we have now. Weah past his prime a bit but still was dangerous and Bierhoff, well he is a special one. So, Pato has the same conditions that Andrij had,..

But Ronaldo, when able to play, is the equal. He is the one that did not needed any time to read our playing style or to settle down. He just came and started o score. Sadly he got injuried, but he allready made about 100 comebacks, so,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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post Oct 7 2007, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 7 2007, 09:25 AM)
We haven't disagreed for a long time have we? But for me, it's Pato and not Ronaldo to take Sheva's place in the larger scheme of things.

There are a lot of similarities, both from lesser known clubs, beating off competition, reputation more than money playing it's part in them coming to Milan. And of course, Silvio's insistence on both. Not to mention, they were both 17 when they came in right?

And they are both gonna start in apprenticeship under two great forwards. I even half believe that this was one reason Ronaldo was brought in.
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Sheva was 2 month before his 24 birthday, already took Dinamo kiev once to the 1/4 and another time to the 1/2 of the CL, had already over 20 goals in the CL (plus voted the best striker and was the best scorer in 98-99 season), and was the leader of his NT. Pato came when he's 17, so there's a difference. Whether he can be what Sheva was for us is remains to be seen. He would have plenty of chances to prove himself.
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post Oct 7 2007, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 7 2007, 04:54 AM)
To me, yes he was .. But when Galliani said Sheva will be replaced with an equal; Ronaldo is that equal. that is what I am saying
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It seems to me that you're trying as hard as you can to be incomprehensible... How can you say Ronaldo is Sheva's equal when at the same time you agree on that Sheva was, when at Milan, the best there was!???!

And how can you claim we have found Sheva's equal when there's nothing you can back it up with!?? To be Sheva's equal you have to be equal at everything!! Goals, assists, passes, .... every little or big thing! Ronaldo has not even had one full season with us and you say he's Sheva's equal...
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post Oct 7 2007, 03:31 PM
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Do u remember when Sheva left they said they were gonna find an equal ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

That is what I meant (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Not literally an equal. But someone who can fill the void.


p.s. to me Sheva was the best ever. But Ronaldo is a phenomenon and say whatever u want, he is qualified to take his place .. Back up Ronaldo?! I have his career for u to look at (Still who did I prefer .. Sheva).
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post Oct 7 2007, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 7 2007, 08:31 AM)
Do u remember when Sheva left they said they were gonna find an equal ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

That is what I meant (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Not literally an equal. But someone who can fill the void.
p.s. to me Sheva was the best ever. But Ronaldo is a phenomenon and say whatever u want, he is qualified to take his place .. Back up Ronaldo?! I have his career for u to look at (Still who did I prefer .. Sheva).
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Sheva > ronaldo back in the day imo. However, ronaldo is more than qualified to fill the role.
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post Oct 7 2007, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 8 2007, 01:14 AM)
Sheva > ronaldo back in the day imo.  However, ronaldo is more than qualified to fill the role.
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U notice that u just repeated everything I said ?
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post Oct 9 2007, 05:13 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 7 2007, 04:55 PM)
U notice that u just repeated everything I said ?
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did i sorry. I was just skimming the thread. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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