[KillerMax]

I will never be convinced that that is what happened, not after I saw the match again.

Against La Coruna, yes it was our fault for thinking we where already semi finalists wen we stepped out to play the second leg, but Istanbul is a whole nother story.

So what do you think happened?

[HasanHasanly]

Come on han, we cant just blame everything on bad luck, because we both know Liver sucked. I mean no team could have woken up from a 3-0 defeat.

[han2503]

So what do you think happened?

We got Universally SCREWED!!!!

Come on han, we cant just blame everything on bad luck, because we both know Liver sucked. I mean no team could have woken up from a 3-0 defeat.

I never blamed it on bad luck (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Milan controls games .. They slow down the pace of the game. From the first whistle we attacked Liverfool; to the extent, they wished they never reached the final !

But since Milan controls the pace of the game, it hit them right when they were trying to slow the game down. That is the only logical explanation to that night!

[KillerMax]

We got Universally SCREWED!!!!

What does that mean?

[han2503]

Milan controls games .. They slow down the pace of the game. From the first whistle we attacked Liverfool; to the extent, they wished they never reached the final !

But since Milan controls the pace of the game, it hit them right when they were trying to slow the game down. That is the only logical explanation to that night!

Never try to figure that night out with a footballing logic. Milan are masters at keeping the ball, especially when we are slowing the tempo down. It's not even logical that they hit us because of this reason.

What does that mean?

Right now I'm going to browse all over the net, try and find the second half of that match in high qulity, and upload it for you, and you'll see why we where screwed. I'll also find the clip of Sheva latching on to the Kaka through pass after running from an onside position to score our second goal (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 5 2007, 10:09 PM

[KillerMax]

Right now I'm going to browse all over the net, try and find the second half of that match in high qulity, and upload it for you, and you'll see why we where screwed. I'll also find the clip of Sheva latching on to the Kaka through pass after running from an onside position to score our second goal  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

That would be great. I wanna see what you are talking about.

I only watched the game once when it was being broadcasted live. After that, I completely forgot that such thing ever happened. And I really mean this literally. Everytime anyone talks of Istanbul, My mind goes blank. But I think now I'm ready to watch the game again.

[Rossoneri7]

Never try to figure that night out with a footballing logic. Milan are masters at keeping the ball, especially when we are slowing the tempo down. It's not even logical that they hit us because of this reason.

It is logical .. Cuz we had a 3-0 lead, and it isn't like there is another game or a second .. It was a final, we had it in our hands, they hit us hard, cuz Benitez knew that's how we play ..

In anycase, what's done is done. It was ours !!! They didn't play football on that day ! We outclassed them and we were robbed !

But in all fairness, Benitez was the one who won them that trophy. He knew when to hit Milan.

Against Deportivo; we went into the game too confident and played the slow paced game, we lost.

Against Bayern; we attacked for the first minute, cuz we had ties in Germany, and got out with a 4-1.

It's just the type of football that Carlo applies.

[han2503]

That would be great. I wanna see what you are talking about.

I only watched the game once when it was being broadcasted live. After that, I completely forgot that such thing ever happened. And I really mean this literally. Everytime anyone talks of Istanbul, My mind goes blank. But I think now I'm ready to watch the game again.

I had only watched the match once also, when it was live, because I had never had it in me to watch it again, but Eurosport where showing previous classic CL games during the Christmas time and they where going to show it, so I decided to just face up to it and watch it again. But all I ended up with after watching it was anger at the way we lost it.

People market that game as the miracle comback staged by Gerrard and Liverpool but in Reality it was just a total sham (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

btw here is a preview of what you will see

Istanbul was never about over confidence. I mean sure there must have been a bit more confidence in our players then usual but that was just a strange night. And not because of some miracle comeback by Liverpool, that's just all bull  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   Watch the match again, the score should have been a 4-1 victory in our favour with Hyypia being sent off in the 50th minute for a last man challenge on Kaka when he was clean through, a goal that was scored when play should have been stopped because of the lines man having already put up the flag but no one noticing it  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   and a Gerrard dive (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)   And on top of all that Sheva was denied a PERFECTLY legitamte goal for a non offside.

[Rossoneri7]

That would be great. I wanna see what you are talking about.

I only watched the game once when it was being broadcasted live. After that, I completely forgot that such thing ever happened. And I really mean this literally. Everytime anyone talks of Istanbul, My mind goes blank. But I think now I'm ready to watch the game again.

Dont be too sure .. Cuz I'm sure, u'll at least smash the monitor

[han2503]

It is logical .. Cuz we had a 3-0 lead, and it isn't like there is another game or a second .. It was a final, we had it in our hands, they hit us hard, cuz Benitez knew that's how we play ..

In anycase, what's done is done. It was ours !!! They didn't play football on that day ! We outclassed them and we were robbed !

But in all fairness, Benitez was the one who won them that trophy. He knew when to hit Milan.

Against Deportivo; we went into the game too confident and played the slow paced game, we lost.

Against Bayern; we attacked for the first minute, cuz we had ties in Germany, and got out with a  4-1.

It's just the type of football that Carlo applies.

Deportivo was just a disgrace.

Getting back to Istanbul, first off Liverpool only played about six minutes of football and should have only got 1 legit goal out of it but instead got 2 other shameful ones. All Benitez did was reduce the threat that was Kaka since he was cutting Liverpool up like soft bread freash out of the oven all by himself.

That wasn't any sort of genius move on his part since even a person that understands zilch about football would have figured that one out. But still we hadn't already started our slow paced game when we came on in the second half, in fact we started attacking them on the off and Kaka was through one on one but was hacked down by Hyypia just outside the area (this is where he should have been sent off since he was clearly the last man) and Sheva almost scored that thunder free-kick which Dudeck miraculously saved.

Then Liverpool attacked for like 6 minutes and scored through Gerrard, they tried too keep it up, socred a goal that was scored when play should have been stopped and scored a penalty because of a dive.

Then the we started dominating the match again and then we started to miss glorious chance after chance.

Our slow passing game was never the issue since we never used it in that game, against Deportivo we came out thinking we had won it, same goes for when we played against PSV but got through because of that late goal.

Against Bayern we played like we can and we got the result that we can always get if we play like Milan should always play

[han2503]

Dont be too sure .. Cuz I'm sure, u'll at least smash the monitor

Believe me the urge does come, first I threw the remote when I saw the sheva goal being disallowed even though I knew it was ghoing to happen and when I saw his double miss at the end of extra time I picked up the chair and threw it a bit at the wall (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) , even though I knew it was coming also (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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[KillerMax]

Believe me the urge does come, first I threw the remote when I saw the sheva goal being disallowed even though I knew it was ghoing to happen and when I saw his double miss at the end of extra time I picked up the chair and threw it a bit at the wall  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) , even though I knew it was coming also  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I throw the friggin remote just everytime I see Sheva in a Milan shirt... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

han .. But that is how Carlo's tactics work .. He slows the game down; thats when u read on the possesion thing Milan 75% - Liverfool 25% .. Seeing as u'v seen that game, I don't know how u could have missed it .. Just compare how fast we moved the ball in the first half to the beginning of the second half.

[han2503]

I throw the friggin remote just everytime I see Sheva in a Milan shirt... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well at the moment when I see Sheva in the Milan shirt I just speak to him on the TV set like a crazy person and tell him that in 2006 he will be regarded as half a man and player, regarded as the EPL's biggest flop and playing for a team that practically has no history (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

han .. But that is how Carlo's tactics work .. He slows the game down; thats when u read on the possesion thing Milan 75% - Liverfool 25% .. Seeing as u'v seen that game, I don't know how u could have missed it .. Just compare how fast we moved the ball in the first half to the beginning of the second half.

I agree we did move the ball faster in the first half and where more effective, but still when we started the second half even though we held the breaks for a bit we where carving out the chances, Kaka's one on one and Sheva free-kick, when Liverpool started to attack more we kept losing the ball also. But them fighting a bit back was never cause by us slowing down the tempo, it would be impossible for a team to always be on top for the whole of 90 minutes, it rarely happens unless the team you're up against is beyond total sh!t and even then you find it hard to take control of the match for the entire time.

Against Bayern for example we slowed the game down after Kaka's goal which came in the 60th minuted, we switched to the Xmas tree but still kept control of the game and where still the team that where creating the better attacks.

Liverpool scored 1 legit goal and that just came out of just six minutes of pressing us not because we where slowing down the game, then it all just snowballed from then onwards.

This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 5 2007, 10:51 PM