[Jack Sparrow]

Don't think Italian football works like that people...I can't remember the last time an Italian coach has crticised his board for not giving him enough dope to buy players and still lived to tell the tale.

I'm really sorry I missed the game, I could have provided a few comments that would be more useful as regards the match...right now I'm taking han's word for the players sucked and the ref was only too happy to add to their misery.

Well I do think Italian politics is starting to rear it's head in football. I read this stuff on some column saying Silvio now that he no longer is the PM, is not the Silvio of old, just some dumb rich guy, who's in love with his own legend etc. etc. Basically that Silvio is senile and everyone is eager to screw him over. It didn't mention anything about football, but for a budding conspiracy theorist like me...(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

What can Milan do? So is it Carlo's fault? Not anymore than it's SAF's. It's easy to come up with theories and expect everything to work as planned. You can say a what if Gila Oli etc.... life's full of what ifs...it didn't happen today. Atalanta haven't been beaten at home this season and we couldn't break the jinx.

I don't know why we are not gonna be transferring anybody this season. If what Galliani says is true, and considering Milan have never had a less than competitive side any season other than this. I have a few thoughts on this matter.

Most of my doubts seem to point to Silvio having had enough of Carletto. I dunno, maybe he isn't glamorous enough, whatever. This season is Carletto's swan song in Milan. And no transfers gives Carletto less options and paves his way out.

Two, there really is a conspiracy on, Inter have switched back to the days of Moriatti Sr. and the football mafia is active again.

Three, the effects of Calciopoli cannot be underestimated. Milan's image has taken a HUGE beating. Nobody knows the truth and as far as they are concerned after Juve, Milan are the next biggest club and by some wierd connection the next biggest offenders. So Milan is poison. If I were a footballer I wouldn't want to join Milan right now. Especially since our current form only serves to underline the above 'theory'.

meet Thierry Henry, often browsing football forums with the nickname "han2503" ...

Hey ur like my bro and all, but if you also let them in on the fact that I'm Fabregas I'm gonna kill you. Too bad Henry2503's identity is blown. Sorry Han..err...Thierry. So how was the game again? Boy we sucked against West Ham (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[RED&BLACK Milan]

what hurts about this lost is that we never been able to build off a positive 2nd half vs Inter and the midweek CL win......if we're losing 2-0 at home to palmero and let inter score four on us and lose against atalanta away, I'm more worried about regulation than the tittle...

As for transfers go....why has Milan management been cheap over the years ?? Buying and targetting over-rated, over-aged players...They already stated firm that they won't buy anyone in January...and the squad is fine.

[HasanHasanly]

Could someone please tell me who was in the game, and a little review ?

[arivanjj]

WOW this is quite shocking, not happy... not happy at all.

i guess we took atalanta for granted and that's what we got.

[berenike_10]

This is very very crappy.... the season was trown on the toilet.. is just ucl and coppa italia now... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[jbryant1]

What else is new? We all know the problems with this club. I saw this coming in the summer without replacements or aggression in the transfer market.

Whats worse is that it was the dreaded Inzaghi and Gilardino combination used today.

It will never work when you have two defensive midfielders. Again Kaka pretty much by himself.

I say throw Galliani out on his bald head. He was the one that keeps saying we don't need reinforcements. He's the one that has sat back while Milan have suffered seasons without trophies.

[berenike_10]

it amazing also , that now juventus is not in seria A anymore, and ac milan won't be able to win the scudetto... is just so crappy

[han2503]

Don't think Italian football works like that people...I can't remember the last time an Italian coach has crticised his board for not giving him enough dope to buy players and still lived to tell the tale.

I'm really sorry I missed the game, I could have provided a few comments that would be more useful as regards the match...right now I'm taking han's word for the players sucked and the ref was only too happy to add to their misery.

Well I do think Italian politics is starting to rear it's head in football. I read this stuff on some column saying Silvio now that he no longer is the PM, is not the Silvio of old, just some dumb rich guy, who's in love with his own legend etc. etc. Basically that Silvio is senile and everyone is eager to screw him over. It didn't mention anything about football, but for a budding conspiracy theorist like me...(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

What can Milan do? So is it Carlo's fault? Not anymore than it's SAF's. It's easy to come up with theories and expect everything to work as planned. You can say a what if Gila Oli etc.... life's full of what ifs...it didn't happen today. Atalanta haven't been beaten at home this season and we couldn't break the jinx.

I don't know why we are not gonna be transferring anybody this season. If what Galliani says is true, and considering Milan have never had a less than competitive side any season other than this. I have a few thoughts on this matter.

Most of my doubts seem to point to Silvio having had enough of Carletto. I dunno, maybe he isn't glamorous enough, whatever. This season is Carletto's swan song in Milan. And no transfers gives Carletto less options and paves his way out.

Two, there really is a conspiracy on, Inter have switched back to the days of Moriatti Sr. and the football mafia is active again.

Three, the effects of Calciopoli cannot be underestimated. Milan's image has taken a HUGE beating. Nobody knows the truth and as far as they are concerned after Juve, Milan are the next biggest club and by some wierd connection the next biggest offenders. So Milan is poison. If I were a footballer I wouldn't want to join Milan right now. Especially since our current form only serves to underline the above 'theory'.
Hey ur like my bro and all, but if you also let them in on the fact that I'm Fabregas I'm gonna kill you. Too bad Henry2503's identity is blown. Sorry Han..err...Thierry. So how was the game again? Boy we sucked against West Ham (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

You're right and I agree with a lot of what you said.

Silvio having enough of Carlo? I don't really think that's the case, if it was then I don't think he would have allowed him to renew his contract last season, and wether he was the president on not during that time doesn't matter, he has to put his seal of approval before Galliani does anything, so I don't think that's the case.

I think that he is getting old for this, and when people get old they get stubbern and behave like children, either he gets exactly what he wants or nothing, he wants Ronnie and until he gets him he wont be satisfied.

Of course there are still conspieracies going around in Italy! You think Moratti was clean in all this?
Let me tell you something, those wire taps on the phones where first of all done illegally, because no one has the right to invade someones conversations like that unless they have a warrent from the court. Secondly those tapes where done by telecom Italia, also known as the company in which Moratti owns a healthy ammount of shares in, in other words he owns part of that company.You think it's a coincedence that nothing came out that involved Inter? Ofcourse not, first of all Moratti isn't stupid enough to tape his own calls, secondly anything that could have involved them would have been easily scraped when running through the office of Guido Rossi during his stint as the commisioner. So no wonder things about Inter never came out (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway, this game only shows the state of football in Italy, and still what a joke it is.

Constant fouls on kaka and Gourcuff not being given to us in the first half, CLEAR penalty on Bonera not being given.

Then to make things more ridiculous a penalty being given to us but for some reason the lineman decides to over rule it and has the NERVE to give Gourcuff a yellow for diving.

At least during the other games they where being more discreet about what they are doing, with the disallowed goals for no reason and the penalties not being given. But to over rule something and give the yellow to our player? That was just low.

Moratti and Guido Rossi must be really happy about this

btw have any of you read the article about Trofeloni the only ref which WASN'T investigated by mister Borelli himself, because his files where 'misteriously lost' during the trails but have now been found once the trails where concluded. he was the only ref who admitted that he was ordered to make wrong calls agianst Milan, and even admitted to given an uncalled for red card to Nesta during a match.

So there you go, this just proves the state of Calcio

I posted this after the game in regards to the calciopoli thing, if I can find the article I'm talking about again I'll post it.

Of course it made an effect, a huge one at that, but fact is we could have still made some good signings during the summer, like dst mentioned Gourcuff as a good example, or Oddo who was BEGGING us to take him!!!

We never asked for them to go out and spen 60 mil on a star player, just young quality, talented players who could fit into the team and that are good prospects for our future.

Or as I was saying during the summer that Oli wouldn't be enough we also needed Sobis, cause we knew that Oli or whoever cam in would have trouble adjusting and that we didn't have enough depth in our forward line.

Could someone please tell me who was in the game, and a little review ?

Basically we sucked and the ref wasn't helping matters with his dodgy calls.
But we didn't deserve to win or lose, a draw would have been fair considering we dominated everythind and they only scored due to counters

[HasanHasanly]

It is very interesting why we always loose because of counters, i think this is mainly because Cafu and Janku play forward too much...

[berenike_10]

they socore on counters, nevertheless they won.. and im not sure anymore if we can acomplish something in europe , or in the local tornament.

[han2503]

It is very interesting why we always loose because of counters, i think this is mainly because Cafu and Janku play forward too much...

We where cought out because we where practically commiting everyone up fron, we where camped in their half for 3/4 of the match, so when we lose the ball, it practically the last man being all be himself.

And in our formation you need the fullback to push up as much as they can since we don't use wingers

[berenike_10]

We where cought out because we where practically commiting everyone up fron, we where camped in their half for 3/4 of the match, so when we lose the ball, it practically the last man being all be himself.

And in our formation you need the fullback to push up as much as they can since we don't use wingers

I personally think that milan should play only with one winger, and cafu.. should say farewell... he's too damm old.

[han2503]

And then we would have absolutely NO ONE who is a natural RB

This post has been edited by han2503: Nov 5 2006, 08:23 PM

[berenike_10]

Just lo let you know , real madrid is thinking to release now cassano.. he has talent, he could be good for something, if Ac milan does not buy players in the winter transfer markes, they can go to hell, i dunno want else they need to see, to realize milan needs new players. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[berenike_10]

And then we would have absolutely NO ONE who is a natural RB

they find one on the trasfer market. or for the other season., cafu will have to finish the season.. that a fact , and im aware of that.

This post has been edited by berenike_10: Nov 5 2006, 08:25 PM