[Fillipo Simone]

Spot on !!! Too bad not everyon can see it.

Gourcuff's penalty claim was dubious , but bonera's should have been a penalty.

Oh calciopoli , yet again you affect our serie A campaign.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

In the end we played terrible, no excuse.

But i dont think Carlo could have done anything. Okay , the whole Inzaghi-Gilardino crap is a good excuse every time we lose , but it doesnt matter if it was Inzaghi-Oliveira , Oliveria-Gilardino or Inzaghi-Gilardino who played today cause it would'nt have made a difference cause our midfield just wasnt there to provide anything. I felt sorry for Kaka cause nothing worked for the lad after the wonderfull hattrick against anderlecht.

Offcourse it easy to blaim the coach , hello  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)   I know

Bravo!! Exactly that...

I agree with everything you said...

[han2503]

well coaches are never on the pitch playing but they do get lots of credit when the team wins but when they continue to lose they have to receive blame. and this si a critical situation and things must be done to shake things up, ancelotti over stayed his welcome after the CL loss anyways, remember no subs in those 6 minutes. i thought that was a good time for him to leave. anyways this is now and wen neeeeeeed changes right away.

Please let's not bring Istambul in this again, we've had so many discussions about it and all disagree, if you want to blame Carlo for that night fine, blame him, but we all know what happened during that match, miss after miss of goals that could have been scored by simple tap ins, penalties being awarded to Liverpool because of a dive by their captain, and goals being disallowed from us for non off sides.

So before you start blaming Carlo for that night watch that match again and look at all the incidents that happened that night.

i cant believe we played gila and pippo together again... like what is ancelotti in the 5th grade or does he have mental lapses... anyways why does he have to play them together? cuz we only have on other real triker.

You said it yourself right there. Because the man was left with no options by the management, Oliveira is having problems adjusting not to mention all his personal problems that he has to deal with everyday.

We should all stop using the Carlo using pippo and Gila upfront as an excuse to why we lost, because there are MUCH more bigger problems that have been effecting us, mainly our off form players which basically include 3/4 of the team

Spot on !!! Too bad not everyon can see it.

Gourcuff's penalty claim was dubious , but bonera's should have been a penalty.

Oh calciopoli , yet again you affect our serie A campaign.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

In the end we played terrible, no excuse.

But i dont think Carlo could have done anything. Okay , the whole Inzaghi-Gilardino crap is a good excuse every time we lose , but it doesnt matter if it was Inzaghi-Oliveira , Oliveria-Gilardino or Inzaghi-Gilardino who played today cause it would'nt have made a difference cause our midfield just wasnt there to provide anything. I felt sorry for Kaka cause nothing worked for the lad after the wonderfull hattrick against anderlecht.

Offcourse it easy to blaim the coach , hello  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)   I know

Agreed

I had a feeling since before the match started we were gonna play sh!t. But apart from playing bad, we lost and with it all the hopes for the scudetto. Now I'm worried about our position, can we even get a Champions League spot for the next season? This team really needs to be rebuild all over. Some signings in January and then a complete overhaul in June. Cause with the current squad we've got, we have no hopes. And for f@ck's sake, stop blaming Carlo.

We played a bad match and to top that off everything was going against us, from bad ref calls to great saves by the goal keeper.

And as you said, everybody would you PLEASE stop blaming Carlo for this, why can't anyone see that the players are off form playing like sh!t and to top that off they aren't even showing any desire to be playing out there. The problems we are having lie deeper then the fact that it is Carlo's fault for playing Pippo and gila together ot playing the xmas tree

[dst]

Why the hell can't we score in the league??

It's because of the bad field ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

as i listen to the game all i can hear is the milan fans chanting support to there team now they are 2-0 down yes it's a blow but before the second goal all i could hear was MILAN  MILAN but all i hear from some of you is the seasons over after 10 games (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Stop saying that all the time !! If I was on the field I would support the team even after this ridiculous performance. for your information: We're in a forum !!! Princeton :forum=a public meeting or assembly for open discussion ... not a place where we sing chants !!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I love the team as much as they do but can you explain to me what's the point in singing in a forum ??

Not to mention all the ref 'incidents' that have been happening for pretty much ALL of the matches this season.

Well this is a bad excuse .... Ofcourse we've been against some terrible refereeing but Milan never relied on penalties to win, that's Giuve !! The team played awfully, that penalty would only mean one point more ...

Don't hide behind the ref, it's the same as hiding behind Carlo !!

[Fillipo Simone]

... Hopefully our MILAN can go through CL next year.. If not, maybe Kaka will leave San Siro for Santiago Bernebeu..  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

But I still believe our MILAN will bounce back..

Please don`t start with that kind of thinking again...we have enough sh@t right now... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif)

[han2503]

It's because of the bad field ...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Could be (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well this is a bad excuse .... Ofcourse we've been against some terrible refereeing but Milan never relied on penalties to win, that's Giuve !! The team played awfully, that penalty would only mean one point more ...

Don't hide behind the ref, it's the same as hiding behind Carlo !!

I was not pointing out to the fact that we should have been given the penalty in order to win, we still wouldn't have won anyway.

But the fact of how many times can refs screw us over in matches!!
It's not hiding behind the ref as an excuse but the fact that WE ARE IN FACT GETTING CHEATED OUT OF THE CHANCE TO WIN A MATCH BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT REFS ARE CONSTANTLY GIVING DECISIONS AGAINST US, that's what's irritating me.

[bigmacmtl]

just cuz we dont have many options up front doesnt mean we hav no choice but to use gila/inzaghi. we could use inzaghi/oli, gila/oli, seedorf behind the 2 strikers- kaka as support striker and the striker any of them three.. maybe even groucuff behind the strikers. i dunno i'm sure theres other options. DIG DEEP carlo! mix things up...

[dst]

But the fact of how many times can refs screw us over in matches!!
It's not hiding behind the ref as an excuse but the fact that WE ARE IN FACT GETTING CHEATED OUT OF THE CHANCE TO WIN A MATCH BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT REFS ARE CONSTANTLY GIVING DECISIONS AGAINST US, that's what's irritating me.

The refs do not cheated out of nothing. My opinion is that our team is playing so bad that we get stuck in ref's decisions ... this shouldn't be happening !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[bigmacmtl]

The refs do not cheated out of nothing. My opinion is that our team is playing so bad that we get stuck in ref's decisions ... this shouldn't be happening !!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

agreed 100%

[dst]

Could be  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

meet Thierry Henry, often browsing football forums with the nickname "han2503" ...

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) !!

[Fillipo Simone]

just cuz we dont have many options up front doesnt mean we hav no choice but to use gila/inzaghi. we could use inzaghi/oli, gila/oli, seedorf behind the 2 strikers- kaka as support striker and the striker any of them three.. maybe even groucuff behind the strikers. i dunno i'm sure theres other options. DIG DEEP carlo! mix things up...

We have three normal strikers. Gila, Pippo and Oli. And, from my point of you it doesn`t make any difference who starts. Carlo brought Oli in, and he did nothing. The same against Inter. So, I fear we cannot expect much from the Oli - Pippo/Gila duo too...Oh. where are the days when we could easily put aside strikers like Vieri or Amoroso. Now I would embrace them momentarily just to have some more options. Why don`t we try George Weah Junior? With that kind off attack I mean...we are lost.

[Portman]

The refs do not cheated out of nothing. My opinion is that our team is playing so bad that we get stuck in ref's decisions ... this shouldn't be happening !!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Agreed. And that's unacceptable for this team.

[bigmacmtl]

we need a new RB thats clear, zaccardo could be an option. funny how everyone has forgot about him.

[Fillipo Simone]

we need a new RB thats clear, zaccardo could be an option. funny how everyone has forgot about him.

No, i have not...do you recall the Italy-USA WC match?? That`s what Zaccardo is for, nothing more...

[bigmacmtl]

who cares thats one game. what about de rossi in the same game? yet everyone would love him. and just to let you know the world cup is the highest level of football and few really perform, i found totti, del piero and toni were pretty average at the world cup. the fact is zaccardo performs VERY well in serie a thats why he was the starting RB for italy before the world cup started.

No, i have not...do you recall the Italy-USA WC match?? That`s what Zaccardo is for, nothing more...

[dst]

All I can still hope for is that Braida will come back from South America with Gago, Higuain and a bunch of defenders !! And since it seems like we're through the CL groups stage (which means we can get some so-needed money) I hope Silvio will take the biggest risk ever (by obviously putting Milan's future under threat and uncertainty) and pays Lolito a BIG, FAT 6m EUR for Oddo !!

Or maybe not ... It's too big a risk, huh ?? Yeah, you're right ... let's do it next season, or maybe even the season after that.

I myself will save some money and send it to Via Turati ... poor Silvio ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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This post has been edited by dst: Nov 5 2006, 06:03 PM