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 Sep 27 2006, 01:55 AM
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Allievi Nazionali  Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388  |
Now, before you say that he scored 19 goals for us last season (in all competitions), I want you to look back and see when he scored, against which teams and how often. Most of his goals were NOT match winners and were scored against small teams. He never scored consistently and he scored 0 goals in 10 Champions League games he played. His last goal was against Cagilari last season, 18th of Febuary. Which means he has not found the net for 7 straight months for Milan (yeah, I know about off season). Not even in friendly matches. Yet, he has had SO MANY chances to break his duck, but he has wasted them ALL! I always had faith in him, but as much as I hate to say it( (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ) now I realize that he really isn't a Milan class player. I had high hopes for him, but he did not live up to them. Even if he starts scoring again, it is not going to change the fact that he has made Milan pay for having faith in him.
I know what some of you are gonna say in counter arguement, so I give my answer now: 1) He doesn't get that many chances: a. If a striker like Inzaghi gets 10+ chances per game every time he plays and Gila only gets 2, it means Gila is not as good a striker. b. Seriously, how many chances a world class striker needs to score? Not many. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) 2. Gila can't play with Pippo/ Boriello/ Kaka etc.. etc... That simply means he is NOT good enough. A world class striker scores at least once in a while, even in the worst of situations. 3. He has bad luck: I agree, sometimes. Inzaghi has bad luck too! So does every other striker. But what makes the difference between them and Gila is that they will finally get that goal somehow. Perfect example = our very own Inzaghi. 4. He is a good team player. Of course he is. I 120% agree with you. That's actually the only reason he is not being cussed at for the moment. But I know for a fact that me and many others have realized that he should not be in the starting line up anymore. As good of a team player he is, he is also a striker and he keeps missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and.... 5. He is too young: 24 is not too young. Plus, I don't see any signs of progress in his game. He is only going downhill. What I think we should do? Keep him as our 3rd striker until Jan and then make him our 4th striker, get rid of Boriello and buy a new striker with some spice in his game! This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Sep 27 2006, 02:02 AM |
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Sep 27 2006, 02:06 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
BTW, now every time I see a picture of Gila, it makes me sad. I really like him, but the truth hurts..
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Sep 27 2006, 02:11 AM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 6,764 Joined: 30-October 05 From: Israel Member No.: 787 |
Good post pKillerMax
I have a feeling that his time will come soon. We had high expectation for him. As for now he is ,I think, failed to live up to them. This post has been edited by mishale: Sep 27 2006, 02:12 AM |
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Sep 27 2006, 02:17 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 26 2006, 07:11 PM) Good post pKillerMax I have a feeling that his time will come soon.  To leave or to become what we all thought he could become? |
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Sep 27 2006, 02:22 AM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 6,764 Joined: 30-October 05 From: Israel Member No.: 787 |
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 27 2006, 04:17 AM) To leave or to become what we all thought he could become? The second. He still can. I think his problem is mostly mental |
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Sep 27 2006, 02:27 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 26 2006, 07:22 PM) The second. He still can. I think his problem is mostly mental I hate to say this, but he is starting to remind me of vieri... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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Sep 27 2006, 02:34 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
Nice post ..
But lets sit back and see how he does till midseason before jumping to conclusions (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) The season just got off to a start .. Though I agree with u in all aspects of this topic, it's premature for us not to give him a final chance to prove himself to us .. Milan's attack isn't as leathal as it was, that is obvious .. But that is not down to Gilardino, but to the fact that we don't have Shevchenko !! It was bound to happen .. Anyways this is just temporary |
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Sep 27 2006, 02:41 AM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Full Members Posts: 269 Joined: 19-December 05 Member No.: 1,031 |
I Really belive in Gila and i think he will pop the cork soon. At least we will see his first Goal in the Champions League this Season.
Forza Gila! |
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Sep 27 2006, 07:10 AM
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7th Heaven Group: Helpers Posts: 7,116 Joined: 2-November 05 From: Sydney. Australia. Member No.: 821 |
well so far yeah, he has been a flop, but don't know what the future brings for him....
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Sep 27 2006, 09:29 AM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 5,148 Joined: 5-October 05 From: Bristol Member No.: 558 |
It's all to do with confidence IMO. As soon as he breaks his duck in the CL I can see him scoring regularly for Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
Just remember the saying 'Form is temporary, class is permanent' (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Sep 27 2006, 12:16 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 27 2006, 06:10 AM) well so far yeah, he has been a flop, but don't know what the future brings for him.... Ditto. |
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Sep 27 2006, 12:35 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
No way ... I know strikers are meant to score goals but IMO Gilardino has been very good so far; Last year he was, after Kaka, our most consistent player. He sacrifices a lot of his game for the good of the team and it's obvious we find it much harder not only to score but even create chances without him .... ahem ... Livorno/Ascoli anyone ??? Just look at our game flow last night ...
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Sep 27 2006, 12:40 PM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 27 2006, 12:55 AM) Now, before you say that he scored 19 goals for us last season (in all competitions), I want you to look back and see when he scored, against which teams and how often. Most of his goals were NOT match winners and were scored against small teams. He never scored consistently and he scored 0 goals in 10 Champions League games he played. His last goal was against Cagilari last season, 18th of Febuary. Which means he has not found the net for 7 straight months for Milan (yeah, I know about off season). Not even in friendly matches. Yet, he has had SO MANY chances to break his duck, but he has wasted them ALL! I always had faith in him, but as much as I hate to say it( (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ) now I realize that he really isn't a Milan class player. I had high hopes for him, but he did not live up to them. Even if he starts scoring again, it is not going to change the fact that he has made Milan pay for having faith in him. I know what some of you are gonna say in counter arguement, so I give my answer now: 1) He doesn't get that many chances: a. If a striker like Inzaghi gets 10+ chances per game every time he plays and Gila only gets 2, it means Gila is not as good a striker. b. Seriously, how many chances a world class striker needs to score? Not many. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) 2. Gila can't play with Pippo/ Boriello/ Kaka etc.. etc... That simply means he is NOT good enough. A world class striker scores at least once in a while, even in the worst of situations. 3. He has bad luck: I agree, sometimes. Inzaghi has bad luck too! So does every other striker. But what makes the difference between them and Gila is that they will finally get that goal somehow. Perfect example = our very own Inzaghi. 4. He is a good team player. Of course he is. I 120% agree with you. That's actually the only reason he is not being cussed at for the moment. But I know for a fact that me and many others have realized that he should not be in the starting line up anymore. As good of a team player he is, he is also a striker and he keeps missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and missing and.... 5. He is too young: 24 is not too young. Plus, I don't see any signs of progress in his game. He is only going downhill. What I think we should do? Keep him as our 3rd striker until Jan and then make him our 4th striker, get rid of Boriello and buy a new striker with some spice in his game! Good point... To 1: Yes he doesn't get many chances because he doesn't work enough... 2. Yes, but that's not the problem. He should play with Oliveira 3. I wouldn't talk about bad luck in this case. A player has bad luck for one or two times, not for such a long period. That's not bad luck, he's just bad... 4. Well yeah, but sometimes he's too nice... 5. Too young? Hell no! He's 24! Other players that are younger than him CAN score against big teams... |
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Sep 27 2006, 03:03 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
I agree with almost everything here. He's not the Gilardino of Parma we all knew. He has changed. He's not so deadly in front of the goal anymore, he's clumsy and slow. Not to mention a striker 10 years older than him, that is Pippo, scores more than him. He hasn't yet found the way of goal this season yet, and that is very disturbing. Let's wait and see what's he gonna do until December before jumping to conclusions. Though I doubt his desperate situatuoin wil change.
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Sep 27 2006, 03:17 PM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 27 2006, 02:03 PM) Though I doubt his desperate situatuoin wil change. I also doubt it...unless there will be some game in which decides the game on his own or so, that would bring the good old Gila back... |
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