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 Nov 21 2009, 11:57 AM
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Milanfan to Death  Group: Full Members Posts: 2,171 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 11  |
^^^
Is this a pre-agreement? Is there a concealed meaning behind this picture? I hope so. |
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Nov 21 2009, 12:59 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
I can't see Ramos being a Milan player. Maybe if we had an owner with money who actually cared about the club.
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Nov 21 2009, 02:40 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
As much as I adore Maldini I can't blindly follow his opinion on this matter. I don't think Ramos is all that great, he's surely several levels below the level of Maldini himself and Roberto Carlos.
Ramos' defending is worse than Carlos' and his attacking power is not even comparable. Ramos' defending cannot even be called that when compared to Maldini's and his attacking power is not that good either. Ramos' consistency is not good at all, these guys have set an example. |
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Nov 21 2009, 02:58 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
Blasphemy!
dst, "Ramos can be my successor" is different to "Ramos IS my successor". maybe Maldini sees something in him that we don't? maybe Ramos will grow as a defender in the future? This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 21 2009, 04:03 PM |
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Nov 21 2009, 03:23 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
Surely Paolo knows better than me and I agree that he's not saying anything concrete, I was just saying that right now Ramos is not a truly great player.
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Nov 21 2009, 03:25 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
I disagree with you on his defending, dst. Due to him being so good going forward, people often seem to just assume he's not so good at the back. I think he's a very good defender.
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Nov 21 2009, 03:30 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 21 2009, 04:25 PM)  I disagree with you on his defending, dst. Due to him being so good going forward, people often seem to just assume he's not so good at the back. I think he's a very good defender. What do you mean assume, I've watched the lad play numerous times. I think he's average at the back. It's not that he lacks anything but he does not use his qualities correctly half a dozen times in a match. He does not make big mistakes though. |
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Dec 2 2009, 06:23 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,151 Joined: 5-August 06 From: United States Member No.: 2,240 |
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Dec 2 2009, 08:38 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
Awesome. +1 cookie to Darunia for finding that. |
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Dec 2 2009, 10:09 PM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Full Members Posts: 315 Joined: 1-February 09 From: The Northern Tundra Member No.: 6,201 |
I saw that on ASA. It is an amazing tribute to an amazing guy.
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Dec 3 2009, 05:46 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 21 2009, 02:25 PM) I disagree with you on his defending, dst. Due to him being so good going forward, people often seem to just assume he's not so good at the back. I think he's a very good defender. In the match against Sevilla, every single good Sevilla chance came from Navas tearing Marcelo apart on the right. As I recall, Ramos was water-tight on the left. I'm not going to claim to be the world's biggest Ramos expert, but there's a reason his get out clause was priced at 100M from the beginning. |
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Dec 3 2009, 05:50 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (dst @ Nov 21 2009, 02:30 PM) What do you mean assume, I've watched the lad play numerous times. I think he's average at the back. It's not that he lacks anything but he does not use his qualities correctly half a dozen times in a match. He does not make big mistakes though. 'Average' in any sense isn't the word I'd use for a Euro Championship winner, in the world's best national team, playing for Real Madrid, with a get out clause of 100M, widely regarded as the best RB on earth. What do you mean he doesn't use his qualities correctly? First off this implies he HAS the qualities, which automatically contradicts the criticism of his ability, and secondly, what on earth do you mean by it? |
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Dec 3 2009, 07:31 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 3 2009, 06:50 PM) 'Average' in any sense isn't the word I'd use for a Euro Championship winner, in the world's best national team, playing for Real Madrid, with a get out clause of 100M, widely regarded as the best RB on earth. What do you mean he doesn't use his qualities correctly? First off this implies he HAS the qualities, which automatically contradicts the criticism of his ability, and secondly, what on earth do you mean by it? I've seen worse players win the World Cup, it does not mean anything. But you're right, average has to be put in a context. I don't mean average compared to every RB out there. What I meant was that compared to the other top full-backs around, his defending is not the best but not the worse either. I did not criticize his ability. When I said he's average in defense I did not mean he lacks any qualities. He does have qualities... I think saying he does not use them correctly is pretty much self-explanatory... he's fast, he's a good tackler, has got good reflexes and his positioning is good but I don't see him use all that all the time and at the same time. Maybe he lacks concentration, I don't know. |
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Dec 3 2009, 07:51 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
I love Ramos, he's fantastic. It may be homerism here, but I think he's 2nd only to Ashley Cole as Ashley edges him out a bit defensively. Cole on the left and Ramos on the right.. you wouldn't need wingers!
The fact Ramos is being talked about, by Maldini, in the Maldini thread says it all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Dec 3 2009, 08:11 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 3 2009, 08:51 PM) The fact Ramos is being talked about, by Maldini, in the Maldini thread says it all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ... it's because Marca arranged a meeting between the two... |
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