[Bluesummers]

I'm not pissed off at you, I just find it annoying to be misunderstood and misquoted.

1. & 2., not much more to say really.

3. I think I'll deal with Arsenal perspectives on this forum. Iv'e earlier said that if we miss out on CL football next year then Wenger has to go, and even if we scrape to a fourth-placed, trophyless then his position in the club needs to be totally reconsidered.

The rest of 3 & 4. You talk a lot about fans taking action. How, excactly? Stand outside Milanello hollering abuse at the board? Spamming acmilan.it with hate mail? Trying to assasinate Gallani?

sorry locke but this may sound arrogant but arsenal vs ac milan? I mean the trophy room speaks for it self. We have much higher standards.

[Bluesummers]

No, fraid not. you may want to take some financial management courses, but you're still not understanding the difference between an operating loss (we spent more than we earned in a year) versus a debt (we don't have money to pay the bills). And in a big multinational, you can rest assured that there are contingencies for operating losses as well as other assets (for example endowments and other investments) in place to cover operating losses. AC Milan is a corporation with its own board of governors and articles of incorporation and its own separate assets. Granted, most of the directors are members of the Berlusconi family and the club is a subsidiary of Fininvest but the fact remains that an operating loss is not the same as a debt. The operating loss is not coming out of Berlusconi's pocket.

Oh i see. So let me break this down:

We spent approximatly 60 million on transfers.

around 100 million on our wage bill.

and with all our other expenses we went over 250. Damn and if we dont get 4th this year, things dont look good.

[Locke Lamora]

sorry locke but this may sound arrogant but arsenal vs ac milan? I mean the trophy room speaks for it self. We have much higher standards.

You just got eliminated from the UEFA Cup by Werder Bremen.
We are on our to eliminating Roma from the Champions League.
Matter of sheer fact. By the way, why did you even bring up Arsenal vs AC Milan? I didn't even vaguely mention it.

Now if you could answer question number 4 please...

[Bluesummers]

You just got eliminated from the UEFA Cup by Werder Bremen.
We are on our to eliminating Roma from the Champions League.
Matter of sheer fact. By the way, why did you even bring up Arsenal vs AC Milan? I didn't even vaguely mention it.

Now if you could answer question number 4 please...

you mentioned the thing about eboue and the fans.


What do you want me to say locke, i`ve already answer your question.

[Fillipo Simone]

And what's all this talk!? In the Maldini thread!? Miss Thelis will not be happy.

And what's all this talk!? In the Maldini thread!? Miss Thelis will not be happy.

And what's all this talk!? In the Maldini thread!? Miss Thelis will not be happy.

[dst]

Right! You all get out of here right now!!! I request a ban for whoever continues spoiling this thread!!!

[Locke Lamora]

you mentioned the thing about eboue and the fans.


What do you want me to say locke, i`ve already answer your question.

What I meant was that the general opinions of the fans count for very little when it comes to buying and selling players.

And you haven't answered number 4, how exactly do you think the fans can take action? Look at what the Atalanta players did after Vieri came back to them, is he still there. Yes, he is.

[Bluesummers]

Just like how barca and madrid do it. Put pressure on the management. Do whatever necessary. If we have to take over milanello for the change, then so be it.

[Locke Lamora]

Just like how barca and madrid do it. Put pressure on the management. Do whatever necessary. If we have to take over milanello for the change, then so be it.

And who will replace Galliani and Ancelotti?

[Bluesummers]

And who will replace Galliani and Ancelotti?

I would love to have moggi on our board. Or better yet put costacurta, maldini, or any candidate with the qualifications could do. Galliani hasn't done anything special. Its silvio who has been running this club for the last 20 years. Galliani is just a puppet.

Ancelotti ? LOL



van basten
riijkaard
guus hidinks
leonardo
donadoni
spaletti



6 candidates just off the top of my head. I could list more if i searched.

Though the one candidate who would rise our team to its former glory is now untouchable, so i'm not gonna even mention him.

[Locke Lamora]

I would love to have moggi on our board. Or better yet put costacurta, maldini, or any candidate with the qualifications could do. Galliani hasn't done anything special. Its silvio who has been running this club for the last 20 years. Galliani is just a puppet.

Ancelotti ? LOL



van basten
riijkaard
guus hidinks
leonardo
donadoni
spaletti



6 candidates just off the top of my head. I could list more if i searched.

Though the one candidate who would rise our team to its former glory is now untouchable, so i'm not gonna even mention him.

Moggi??? Moggi isn't fit to wipe Berlusconi's @ss, he shouldn't be anywhere even close to the management of anything.

As for the managers you listed:
Van Basten - What top-level experience at club level has he really had?
Riijkard - Fair enough.
Guus Hiddink - Currently at Chelsea and won't enter a long-term contract until he's done with Russia.
Leonardo - Who?
Donadoni - Judging by how he managed to destroy Italy at the Euro...no.
Spalletti - Only way would be to assasinate the Sensi's and wipe out the entire team (though Panucci could help us out with that).

[Bluesummers]

Moggi??? Moggi isn't fit to wipe Berlusconi's @ss, he shouldn't be anywhere even close to the management of anything.

As for the managers you listed:
Van Basten - What top-level experience at club level has he really had?
Riijkard - Fair enough.
Guus Hiddink - Currently at Chelsea and won't enter a long-term contract until he's done with Russia.
Leonardo - Who?
Donadoni - Judging by how he managed to destroy Italy at the Euro...no.
Spalletti - Only way would be to assasinate the Sensi's and wipe out the entire team (though Panucci could help us out with that).

I think moggi has done a fairly good job when he was juve director. Why not?? Yes he has had a dirty past but everyone deserves a second chance. I think he could help us in several deals.

van basten- same thing could be said about guardiola but he is aparantly doing quite well.
leonardo- same thing as above
donadoni- I dont blame him, I think italy was poor at the euros. It wasn't a fair chance for him. Also club and international football are two different things.

Heres another one, big phil.

[Tennie]

Spalletti - Only way would be to assasinate the Sensi's and wipe out the entire team (though Panucci could help us out with that).

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Fishdoll +1 cookie to Locke for that. (btw, the two have apparently kissed and made up. Panucci's been called up for the game with the cugini).

[MizNelson]

The only way Moggi and his permanently-forked tongue should be allowed to set foot inside the San Siro during a Milan game is if he buys a ticket.

If Scolari couldn't cut the mustard at Chelsea, I doubt he can turn us around anytime soon. At this point, I'm leaning on Rijkaard, but his connections with the club could hurt him in the long run (i.e., Carlo).

Spalletti: It's all Panucci's fault

Nice.

This post has been edited by MizNelson: Mar 1 2009, 01:05 AM

[Locke Lamora]

I think moggi has done a fairly good job when he was juve director. Why not?? Yes he has had a dirty past but everyone deserves a second chance. I think he could help us in several deals.

van basten- same thing could be said about guardiola but he is aparantly doing quite well.
leonardo- same thing as above
donadoni- I dont blame him, I think italy was poor at the euros. It wasn't a fair chance for him. Also club and international football are two different things.

Heres another one, big phil.

Moggi doesn't deserve a second chance at a club like Milan. It would be sending out a signal of "Oh, so we have a disgraced Juventini, a man who destroyed much of Italy's footballing reputation and ensured that two seasons were completely wasted...let's make him director of football."
And that is a patethic signal.

I'll concede the Van Basten point but I don't have a clue about who Leonardo is.
Donadoni wrecked Italy's campaign by firstly not starting De Rossi and secondly by never even trying to play with another tactic than "team milling about in midfield before passing to Toni and hoping he scored (after his display against France he shouldn't have even started against Spain).

And Scolari...well he did brilliantly with Chelsea or what? again, You suggest Milan pick up and swallow what other clubs have choked on and spat out.