[Habitant]

I'm going to respectfully disagree with Habitant on the ordering just above. Don't think Kaka should be placed above either Nesta or Pirlo in the hierarchy.

oh i forgot about nesta., i guess he should be above him

with pirlo, well doesnt captain evoke leadership? pirlo just isnt a leader IMO

[Tennie]

What sorts of leadership characteristics do you guys see in Kaka?

[Rossoneri7]

What sorts of leadership characteristics do you guys see in Kaka?

Determined, humble, is correct, fears God, and is the star of Milan, after Maldini.

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Aug 19 2008, 08:27 PM

[Habitant]

he's vocal, makes it known when the team needs to step it up.

he's clutch

consistent

charismatic

classy

he has "it", just by watching him. some people arent cut out to be a leader.

and we cant forget he's one of the younger members of the team, he cant go around bossing everyone but for the leadership that he's displayed so far i think i think he will only improve in that deparemnt.

[Tennie]

Interesting. Thanks for the input, guys.

[acid911]

Thank you R7 and Habitant. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Saved me a whole lot of typing guys. And even though I'm pretty tolerant when it comes to the captaincy matter, I'd still put Nesta ahead of Kaka when it comes to wearing the armband. Lazio heart and all.

Sheva wore it, even though he was a symbol of his previous club, plus a foreign player, plus there were older members of the squad in front of him. Obviously, the management saw something in the Ukrainian. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Ditto for Kaka. His time will come, no sense in hurrying thing. I only wish the management get rid of this 'seniority' checkbox when it comes to the armband.

[dst]

@Hab
It did not say it's all about seniority but it is the most important factor. By which I mean that someone with no sufficient number of years in the team should not become captain.

As for vice-captaincy... well I don't think it's a role that's nearly as important as that of the captain... so I would not mind for example if Kaka was vice-captain now after Maldini... it's more of a filler role...

In any case, the captain should be a decision that the players and the rest of the club members make together...

Ambro is the next one for me.

[Rossoneri7]

Well if there are any of you that are interested to know where and what Kaka' is doing, Calciomercato has reported that Kaka', Caronline and Luca are on the beaches of Sardinia along with his physical trainer. Relaxing and preparing for the new season with physio therapy lessons daily.

[whoarethepatriot...]

Kaka is future captain potential, you can see it clearly in his personality, however it would be unfair on other better leaders such as Ambrosini and Gattuso.

I think the way it is at the moment is fine

Edit: I was sure Pirlo gets the nod ahed of Kaladze. I guess Kaladze was not on the pitch when i have seen him get the armband. Or maybe because Pirlo is Italian he gets the slight nod ahed of Kakha

This post has been edited by whoarethepatriots: Aug 19 2008, 10:45 PM

[Tennie]

Kaka is reported as having been at training today.

[Rossoneri7]

Kaka is reported as having been at training today.

Yes, he is back now ... I guess I was a bit late in translating that piece (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Tennie]

The fish doll won't push you in the tank for it...this time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Giancarlo]

Kaka is reported as having been at training today.

Hope he's doing okay... that inflammation in his leg should be easing up now. Kaka will certainly have to be back to encourage a sad Ronaldinho and Pato (from what I hear they were upset after the way Brazil lost).

[Bluesummers]

it doesnt matter that kaladze or seedorf or any of the above you listed were here longer than kaka.

The order will go like this:

maldini
ambro
gattuso
pirlo/kaka.


And vice captain will be decided in one or two seasons. I doubt gattuso will be able to play every game and same with pirlo and ambro so you will see kaka at one point wearing it.

You dont become captain just because you've been here the longest. you have to be able to take the role full on.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Aug 20 2008, 12:43 AM

[Jack Sparrow]

I would guess, with Cafu and Concorde gone, Kaka becomes captain of the Brazillian contingent? So by default, he's already one of the 'vice-captains', along with Ambro, Rino and Kaladze.


Pirlo as captain? The man is ice, and he can think. I also believe he did mention he'd like to be captain. But the thing is he's the kind of player, who the others look up to and respect, without actually being their 'go-to' guy in case of trouble. At least that's the impression he gives me.

He's also not very vocal. He'd make a good coach, in the 'discipline yourself and I'll teach you how to play' mode. Pirlo's played as trequartista, holding MF, striker and CB, not to mention his vision is among the best players in the world. In fact I'm convinced he should take his coaching badges. Just a feeling.