[Portman]

Mediocre.

Simic left-leg when injuried (Cisséd) > Kaladze. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[dst]

Simic left-leg when injuried (Cisséd) > Kaladze.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

No no no... Simic with no legs at all >>> Kaladze at his very best!

He would also run faster and tackle better! Who needs legs?? Forza Simic!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Feb 27 2007, 03:04 AM

[Rossoneri7]

U guys .. I don't know why u dont appreciate Kakha .. He has been a very important player for Milan for some time now .. If he wasnt any good, Milan would have got rid of him a long time ago

[dst]

If he wasnt any good, Milan would have got rid of him a long time ago

He's still here cause he's Berlusconi's favorite. That's not a big secret or anything.

I couldn't confute the argument that I am biased towards some certain players nevertheless I can still see beyond my inequity and weigh up their worth and give them kudos for what they offer to the team. Just like I do with Serginho. I get frustrated by the LB Serginho cause he can't defend (the truth is that he plays cause he's also a Silvio favorite and if it wasn't for Carletto's reluctance to adopt a winger system or something then he would be of much bigger use) but that does not mean I don't appreciate what he provides to the attack.

But Kaladze is another issue. When he first he came to the team and played at LB and LMF I used to like him. I always thought that he would evolve into something big, he'd be our unexpected revelation. But he never did. He's already 28 and he's just where je started from. No evolutiion, no revelation, no nothing. He's had some very good games with the Milan shirt. I've seen him perform better than I expected in some occasions but still not what I initially thought I'd see from him. He may look good next to Nesta or Maldini but to be honest... who doesn't?

The thing is, I may be bashing him all the time but that is just to emphasize the fact that he shouldn't be there, not as a starting XI player... he would be a very important sub, I'd like to see him help coming off the bench. The important thing is to understand that this is not my opinion. It's proved by the fact that we all look at Bonera like he's our savior or something. Bonera is a very good player but so are most Serie A center-backs, I don't remember anyone jumping around when we signed him. We've never seen Kaladze do what Bonera does but I would expect nothing less from a Milan player. And Kaladze is something less...

[milanista1899]

He's still here cause he's Berlusconi's favorite. That's not a big secret or anything.

I couldn't confute the argument that I am biased towards some certain players nevertheless I can still see beyond my inequity and weigh up their worth and give them kudos for what they offer to the team. Just like I do with Serginho. I get frustrated by the LB Serginho cause he can't defend (the truth is that he plays cause he's also a Silvio favorite and if it wasn't for Carletto's reluctance to adopt a winger system or something then he would be of much bigger use) but that does not mean I don't appreciate what he provides to the attack.

But Kaladze is another issue. When he first he came to the team and played at LB and LMF I used to like him. I always thought that he would evolve into something big, he'd be our unexpected revelation. But he never did. He's already 28 and he's just where je started from. No evolutiion, no revelation, no nothing. He's had some very good games with the Milan shirt. I've seen him perform better than I expected in some occasions but still not what I initially thought I'd see from him. He may look good next to Nesta or Maldini but to be honest... who doesn't?

The thing is, I may be bashing him all the time but that is just to emphasize the fact that he shouldn't be there, not as a starting XI player... he would be a very important sub, I'd like to see him help coming off the bench. The important thing is to understand that this is not my opinion. It's proved by the fact that we all look at Bonera like he's our savior or something. Bonera is a very good player but so are most Serie A center-backs, I don't remember anyone jumping around when we signed him. We've never seen Kaladze do what Bonera does but I would expect nothing less from a Milan player. And Kaladze is something less...

So basically you mean he's not a bad player just not a great one? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) If so that's fair. Be nice to him it's his birthday today! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[dst]

So basically you mean he's not a bad player just not a great one?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) If so that's fair. Be nice to him it's his birthday today!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm being nice! Otherwise... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Basically I mean that he should be a sub!

[Rossoneri7]

He's still here cause he's Berlusconi's favorite. That's not a big secret or anything.

I couldn't confute the argument that I am biased towards some certain players nevertheless I can still see beyond my inequity and weigh up their worth and give them kudos for what they offer to the team. Just like I do with Serginho. I get frustrated by the LB Serginho cause he can't defend (the truth is that he plays cause he's also a Silvio favorite and if it wasn't for Carletto's reluctance to adopt a winger system or something then he would be of much bigger use) but that does not mean I don't appreciate what he provides to the attack.

But Kaladze is another issue. When he first he came to the team and played at LB and LMF I used to like him. I always thought that he would evolve into something big, he'd be our unexpected revelation. But he never did. He's already 28 and he's just where je started from. No evolutiion, no revelation, no nothing. He's had some very good games with the Milan shirt. I've seen him perform better than I expected in some occasions but still not what I initially thought I'd see from him. He may look good next to Nesta or Maldini but to be honest... who doesn't?

The thing is, I may be bashing him all the time but that is just to emphasize the fact that he shouldn't be there, not as a starting XI player... he would be a very important sub, I'd like to see him help coming off the bench. The important thing is to understand that this is not my opinion. It's proved by the fact that we all look at Bonera like he's our savior or something. Bonera is a very good player but so are most Serie A center-backs, I don't remember anyone jumping around when we signed him. We've never seen Kaladze do what Bonera does but I would expect nothing less from a Milan player. And Kaladze is something less...

But Kakha is a sub (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ... He steps in when either Maldini or Nesta r injured. I get what ur saying .. When he first came ('99 I think) .. he played at left back ... He was good, but not Ashley Cole. In anycase, I dont believe he'll play ahead of Nesta or Maldini if they r fit. But when he is on the field, he really puts his heart out for this shirt. He's strong physically, a good header, and is a good marker. His tackles arent as precise as Nesta or Maldini, but thats okay .. He's a sub (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So .. please cut him some slack, he has won alot with Milan and he was an integral part of the winning team (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[dst]

Kakha is a good header?? R7 I think I know now who stole my cocaine... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

The thing is, I may be bashing him all the time but that is just to emphasize the fact that he shouldn't be there, not as a starting XI player... he would be a very important sub, I'd like to see him help coming off the bench. The important thing is to understand that this is not my opinion.

Exactly - in Kaladze and Å imić Milan has two great subs who together cover the C and the wing positions, so practicall every defensive option. They are great to have them around for that purpose.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Kakha is a good header?? R7 I think I know now who stole my cocaine...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well, against Inter, he was, remember?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

Also, scored some important goals (like that one against Lazio years ago..). He is mediocre in every segment..

[Rossoneri7]

Kakha is a good header?? R7 I think I know now who stole my cocaine...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But he *scored* against the merda !!!




(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ... The candy man said it was okay