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Fillipo Simone
post Jul 26 2017, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 19 2017, 11:38 PM) *
Can't disagree with this. Defending isn't what it was 10 years ago. The world's best defender? Bonucci is among them but the best now are simply not comparable with the guys you mention above.

IMO it's completely inappropriate, comparing them or mentioning them at all. Another time, another football. Today we don't have Cannavaro or Nesta and no one can know how they would do against Ronaldo, Messi, etc. Bonucci is one of the 5 best defenders in the world right now and that's what matters.

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 20 2017, 05:59 PM) *
I still say that while it was a colossal signing, it was a strange situation because either we go three at the back or we bench one defender. And it'll never be the captain and I can't see Musacchio being here to be benched so it's Romagnoli.

And he will not be content with that.

Well, these are the situations a coach should handle. So far Romagnoli has been out with an injury. We'll see how things evolve.
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post Aug 21 2017, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 20 2017, 06:26 PM) *
IMO it's completely inappropriate, comparing them or mentioning them at all. Another time, another football. Today we don't have Cannavaro or Nesta and no one can know how they would do against Ronaldo, Messi, etc. Bonucci is one of the 5 best defenders in the world right now and that's what matters.


Well, these are the situations a coach should handle. So far Romagnoli has been out with an injury. We'll see how things evolve.

I think we've seen how Nesta does against Messi

And this was during the twilight of his career while Messi was about to hit his peek

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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 21 2017, 10:39 AM) *
I think we've seen how Nesta does against Messi

And this was during the twilight of his career while Messi was about to hit his peek

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Indeed. So the assessment cannot be conclusive. And I remember Messi putting in one or two goals as well. So, there's really no debate here. Different times, different tactics and plays. The fact that Bonucci can pass and build up the game from behind like a defender-metronome is what counts in today's tactics. If it were oldfashioned tactics and criteria to be implemented, I'd probably argue that Ciro Ferrara, Billy Costacurta, Beppe Bergomi, Paolo Montero and a few other cats like them are much better then Bonucci. But old arguments and criteria really don't count here.
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- Fillipo Simone   Çalhanoğlu   Jul 26 2017, 05:25 PM
- - han2503   Thanks for opening the threads! Just haven...   Jul 26 2017, 07:59 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 26 2017, 07:59 PM) T...   Jul 26 2017, 08:40 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   No problem, I'll do the others as well in time   Jul 26 2017, 08:50 PM
- - han2503   This is the one I have the most question marks abo...   Jul 30 2017, 09:26 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   To be quite frank, the only players I really have ...   Jul 30 2017, 09:37 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 30 2017, 09:3...   Jul 30 2017, 10:30 AM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 30 2017, 12:30 PM) F...   Jul 31 2017, 06:08 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 31 2017, 06:08 ...   Jul 31 2017, 06:55 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 31 2017, 08:55 PM) We ...   Jul 31 2017, 07:45 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 31 2017, 07:45 ...   Jul 31 2017, 08:49 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Yes, very logical. I'm still waiting to see mo...   Jul 30 2017, 10:56 AM
- - X-Offender   I think he will surprise a lot of people. Probably...   Jul 30 2017, 11:20 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   I love Borini. He's my new Gilardino. I swear ...   Jul 30 2017, 03:17 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 30 2017, 10:5...   Jul 30 2017, 06:08 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Hmh. Touch of class? Are you sure? When or how did...   Jul 31 2017, 07:48 AM
- - X-Offender   I will play too! Sure of success: Musacchio, ...   Jul 31 2017, 08:45 PM
|- - Ry4n   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 1 2017, 12:4...   Aug 18 2017, 03:54 PM
- - X-Offender   So, you're not alone on Silva after all, Danny...   Jul 31 2017, 08:58 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Poor Hakan, completely hijacked his thread...   Aug 1 2017, 09:39 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   Fine. We're hijacking this thread, but I'm...   Aug 1 2017, 09:40 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 1 2017, 09:40 A...   Aug 1 2017, 05:21 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 1 2017, 05:2...   Aug 19 2017, 09:38 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Score goals? I think Borini scored as much goals i...   Aug 1 2017, 09:42 AM
|- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 1 2017, 04:12...   Aug 1 2017, 12:42 PM
- - Fishdoll   While we're hijacking, why are folks so unsure...   Aug 1 2017, 12:26 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 1 2017, 05:2...   Aug 19 2017, 08:42 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Bonucci is a great signing in several ways. We get...   Aug 19 2017, 01:39 PM
|- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 19 2017, 08:0...   Aug 19 2017, 05:29 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 19 2017, 04:3...   Aug 20 2017, 09:28 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 19 2017, 01:3...   Aug 20 2017, 03:59 PM


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