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Serie A - Week 10 - AC Milan vs. Palermo, Top & flop |
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Nov 3 2014, 04:08 PM
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Very bad outcome, but the only positive side if we did fight in the end, which is what lacked against Fiorentina and Cagliari.
Top goes to Lopez, flop to Zapata.
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Nov 3 2014, 07:32 PM
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Top Lopez
Flop for me has to go to Menez, I'm getting so frustrated watching him. Over dribbling, not passing to open team mates, just totally selfish
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Nov 3 2014, 11:16 PM
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Yes and no.
I'm not sure about Poli. He's rapidly turning into a new Nocerino. About the DM's, we need to offload Muntari and Essien in order to get one real good player for this spot. Someone fresh and preferably good as a box-to-box player. I wish we hadn't shipped of Flamini, he was the best of the bunch.
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Nov 4 2014, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 4 2014, 12:05 AM) I'm not saying we should go for the double pivot. Just giving my two cents about Poli and what I think is his ideal position. Don't get mad at me. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'm not (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm just trying to point out you have a little history for wanting the DP at Milan, be it De Jong and Monto or now Poli and whoever. The DP only works with two hard-core DMs. Two tough enforcers protecting the defence and breaking up opposition midfield, freeing the 3 in front of them for the creative work behind the striker. I thought when we got Essien he and De Jong could do that role well but that was miles wrong. For me Poli is as good a utility midfielder as there is. He can work most areas, without being outstanding in any, so I see him as the guy you bring in when one of your first choices isn't available and it's not a huge downgrade. Which is why I want the 3 in midfield of Bona, De Jong and MvG with Poli as backup. But of course with Monto on his way back in the next two weeks or so that changes things a little.
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Nov 4 2014, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 4 2014, 07:03 AM) I'm not (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm just trying to point out you have a little history for wanting the DP at Milan, be it De Jong and Monto or now Poli and whoever. The DP only works with two hard-core DMs. Two tough enforcers protecting the defence and breaking up opposition midfield, freeing the 3 in front of them for the creative work behind the striker. I thought when we got Essien he and De Jong could do that role well but that was miles wrong. For me Poli is as good a utility midfielder as there is. He can work most areas, without being outstanding in any, so I see him as the guy you bring in when one of your first choices isn't available and it's not a huge downgrade. Which is why I want the 3 in midfield of Bona, De Jong and MvG with Poli as backup. But of course with Monto on his way back in the next two weeks or so that changes things a little. Real Madrid play Kroos and Modric there, Chelsea Matic and Cesc, hardly the poster boys for hard core anything. The DM culture is so stuck in our minds as avid Milan watchers while the rest of the footballing world has breezed past us. No team plays with 2 DMs these days, some don't even utilise one in their system, no matter what formation it is.
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Nov 5 2014, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 4 2014, 11:43 PM) Reasonable rebuttal but one flaw - Chelsea and Madrid are arguably the best two teams on earth right now, with only Atleti and Bayern competing. For lesser teams, like us ((IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ), you need two enforcers there if playing DP because few players are as good as Kroos, Modric, Fabregas and Matic. These are incredible players and the laws which apply to my logic don't apply in those cases. It doesn't really matter imo the scale of the team Kroos and Modric could just as easily be exposed defensively which we saw happening a lot during the first few weeks of the season 2 DMs in any system for me is asking for it in today's game.
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Nov 5 2014, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 5 2014, 10:43 PM) That's why it's a problem...
The reason they aren't now is Real are so top-heavy and the players have started to blend.
Nah, 2 DMs behind 3 quality AMs is perfect for a lot of teams IMO. For methe most important area on the pitch that requires brains is in midfield, 3 AMs won't do much if the engine room does not keep the ball ticking over, that's what we lack most imo, a midfield capable of keeping the ball moving and imo that's a crucial element Also, just to clarify, are you talking DMs in the De Jong/Ambro/Rino mould or DMs in the Khedira/Busquets mould? Because there's a huge difference between those 2 types of DMs and we've never had any in the second category. Also, imo what you're saying can only work if you have the second category types .i.e 2 DMs that are good on both sides of the ball
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Nov 7 2014, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 7 2014, 04:52 PM) Love how no one even had the enthusiasm to whine about my troll vote. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Didn't even notice it until you pointed it out
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