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Fillipo Simone
post Mar 3 2011, 02:54 PM
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Thing is, he's doin' okay but I see another Zaccheroni in him. I have a inside fear that he'll win us the scudetto and then stall us both in the league and CL. I don't think he's got it in him in the long run.
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post Mar 3 2011, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 3 2011, 03:54 PM) *
Thing is, he's doin' okay but I see another Zaccheroni in him. I have a inside fear that he'll win us the scudetto and then stall us both in the league and CL. I don't think he's got it in him in the long run.


With the team he'll have at disposal next season, I highly doubt that.
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post Mar 3 2011, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2011, 05:03 PM) *
With the team he'll have at disposal next season, I highly doubt that.

I don't think Mexes or Marchetti are going to make that big a difference... and they're not even certainly coming anyway... Ganso is inexperienced and we don't know if he's coming either. I doubt we're going to make any big moves especially if we win the scudetto.
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post Mar 3 2011, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Mar 3 2011, 05:12 PM) *
I don't think Mexes or Marchetti are going to make that big a difference... and they're not even certainly coming anyway... Ganso is inexperienced and we don't know if he's coming either. I doubt we're going to make any big moves especially if we win the scudetto.


We already have a quality team. We only lack certain assets that don't allow us to express our full potential. Two quality fullbacks, one quality CB backup, a trequartista and possibly another DM. In the other sectors we're more than covered. And I'm certain we'll fill those holes this summer. Mexes is already taken, Braida is monitoring plenty of quality fullbacks, Ganso (who's top class from what experts say) is around the corner and maybe another midfielder will come too. I'm certain this signing campaign will be a hot one, as most newspapers are claiming day by day.
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post Mar 3 2011, 04:59 PM
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Provided we do make the necessary transfers for next season, and no crucial exits - I can't see us not succeeding.

We will have a team to challenge on all fronts with the introduction of a new CB, WBs, CM, and depending on the situation with Amelia another GK as well.


EDIT: Forgot to press submit - but yea X-Off pretty much said what I did.

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post Mar 3 2011, 05:18 PM
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I say we keep him, he has done well on his first year and is still learning. It seems like big-club fans never beleive in development whether in regards to players or coaches. Considering in this same city with a bigger team and a more celebrated coach inter fucked up bad under Benitez, this only proves that serie A is a tough cookie to crack. Allegri has only lost 3 games in the league. He did so with a metamorphic approach as his actis have changed several times during the year to ajust to injuries. He is not quite as stubborn as he's made out to be. He has made "ballsy" outside of the box moves with playing Casano on the wing, Robinho & Boateng as AM, and thiago silva in Mid. As i pretty big Cagliari fan i must tell you he has been handed a completely different system in milan, and considering we are 5 points up and he has probably played every player on the roster twice, he is worthy of the post IMO. He is an attack minded coach and he has developed so-so players into quality starters. Now all he needs to do is pawn off what he doesn't want/need and coach a team he can fulfill his project with. There is ALOT of pulp on this squad and if there is one thing we can learn from mourinho, it's have a smaller group of players. I believe in Max, and with the CL not a priority, this year will offer him some experience going forward.

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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Mar 3 2011, 12:18 PM) *
I say we keep him


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post Mar 3 2011, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Mar 3 2011, 06:58 PM) *


Allegri. Didn't you read the rest of his post?
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post Mar 3 2011, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Mar 3 2011, 10:18 AM) *
I say we keep him, he has done well on his first year and is still learning. It seems like big-club fans never beleive in development whether in regards to players or coaches. Considering in this same city with a bigger team and a more celebrated coach inter fucked up bad under Benitez, this only proves that serie A is a tough cookie to crack. Allegri has only lost 3 games in the league. He did so with a metamorphic approach as his actis have changed several times during the year to ajust to injuries. He is not quite as stubborn as he's made out to be. He has made "ballsy" outside of the box moves with playing Casano on the wing, Robinho AM, and thiago silva in Mid. As i pretty big Cagliari fan i must tell you he has been handed a completely different system in milan, and considering we are 5 points up and he has probably played every player on the roster twice, he is worthy of the post IMO. He is an attack minded coach and he has developed so-so players into quality starters. Now all he needs to do is pawn off what he doesn't want/need and coach a team he can fulfill his project with. There is ALOT of pulp on this squad and if there is one thing we can learn from mourinho, it's have a smaller group of players. I believe in Max, and with the CL not a priority, this year will offer him some experience going forward.


When you put it like that, it's hard to argue with. I did not know he has only lost 3 games in Serie A. Not bad at all. I have to say we often forget the amount of injuries we have suffered this season. In all honesty, we could have easily been 3rd right now and have a very legitimate reason for it too. Long term? I think Allegri has the potential to become a great. I've mostly been upset with him about the whole Ibra issue where I think he needs to calm down and I expect Allegri to put him in his place. I don't want Milan to = Ibra and his drama... I also think he has ignored PapaIcan'tspelltherestoulous for no real reason and played Bonera which has cost us points. In anyway, not every body will be happy with everything... EVER. So good luck to him and Forza Milan!

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post Mar 3 2011, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Mar 3 2011, 01:05 PM) *
When you put it like that, it's hard to argue with. I did not know he has only lost 3 games in Serie A. Not bad at all. I have to say we often forget the amount of injuries we have suffered this season. In all honesty, we could have easily been 3rd right now and have a very legitimate reason for it too. Long term? I think Allegri has the potential to become a great. I've mostly been upset with him about the whole Ibra issue where I think he needs to calm down and I expect Allegri to put him in his place. I don't want Milan to = Ibra and his drama... I also think he has ignored PapaIcan'tspelltherestoulous for no real reason and played Bonera which has cost us points. In anyway, not every body will be happy with everything... EVER. So good luck to him and Forza Milan!

i think the whole Ibra thing is pressure form above. He never shied away from benching players at cagliari. Berlu wants ppl to talk about his big purchase, rightfully so. As a big Papastathradoupolos (or wtv) fan I too was upset with how he dealt with it, but I think he's gone after this year. Also i like the fact he started 2 primavera players this year. I don't want to have the whole youth sucks/think of the future debate, but i can however tell you people at the primavera can now hope for more then being sold to a lower-table team. They have seen their peers' hard work gain them 1rst team action and will be more motivated to play hard.

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post Mar 3 2011, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2011, 04:03 PM) *
With the team he'll have at disposal next season, I highly doubt that.

Zaccheroni had a prime Maldini, Costacurta, Albertini, Boban, Leonardo and a few others at his disposal. Still it happened. So I don't think it's that dubious.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 3 2011, 11:04 PM) *
Zaccheroni had a prime Maldini, Costacurta, Albertini, Boban, Leonardo and a few others at his disposal. Still it happened. So I don't think it's that dubious.


The first three, yes. Boban and Leonardo were in their 30s and past their prime. And if I remember correctly, they weren't exactly regulars. Besides, we already have a much stronger team than we did back then, which will be strengthened even further this summer. If we're going to compare Allegri and Zaccheroni, let's do it based on tactics and other arguments, not on the teams they had at disposal.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2011, 10:59 PM) *
The first three, yes. Boban and Leonardo were in their 30s and past their prime. And if I remember correctly, they weren't exactly regulars. Besides, we already have a much stronger team than we did back then, which will be strengthened even further this summer. If we're going to compare Allegri and Zaccheroni, let's do it based on tactics and other arguments, not on the teams they had at disposal.

Let's. You added the squad talk into the discussion. I think Zaccheroni is better in terms of tactics, but considering all their characteristics, they both are very alike. And in the end, I think, they'll achieve exactly the same.
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post Mar 4 2011, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 4 2011, 12:11 AM) *
Let's. You added the squad talk into the discussion.


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