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 Jun 22 2009, 04:05 AM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali  Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763  |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 21 2009, 08:49 PM)  Congrats to the US!! But seriously Lippi?! Has to go!!! His call ups were all wrong his starting 11s wrong he only got lucky in the first game because of a questionable red and Rossi heroics. The's old time stubborn coaches that are not willing to change and still think that this is 2003. Enough, if Italy go into the world cup with this squad, this humiliation will pale in comparison. The only players from this current roster that should be included in the World Cup squad are: Pirlo Camoranesi Chiellini Gilardino Rossi Montolivo De Rossi Gamberini Zambrotta Gattuso Santon Buffon Amelia. All the others need to be finally dropped and be replaced by these Santacroce Aquilani Giovinco Cassano De Ceglie Ballotelli I think that would be the best mix of youth and experiance. But Lippi will not be the coach to make these changes, Expect to see Toni, Cannavoro, Iaquinta and Grosso huffing and puffing around the field at the World Cup agree with every but + de silvestri, motta as well. |
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Jun 22 2009, 08:36 AM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Habitant @ Jun 22 2009, 03:05 AM) agree with every but + de silvestri, motta as well. Agreed, there aren't 23 players on that list so a couple more could be chosen, I just ran out of names... Imagine this Italy team Buffon Zambrotta--Santacroce--Chiellini--De Ceglie Pirlo--De Rossi Rossi--Giovinco--Cassano Ballottelli (IMG:style_emoticons/default/droolsmiley.gif) Experiance, youth, flair, skill, grit. |
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Jun 22 2009, 09:13 AM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 539 Joined: 22-April 06 From: München Member No.: 1,685 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 21 2009, 11:49 PM) It was Cannavaro that made the terrible mistake on the second goal. To actually see him reach Maldini's cap record was awful. He does not desrve to be a starter anymore. The mistake Cannavaro was when we recieved the first goal. He was toonear to the goal and it wasn't offside... I didn't see a mistake of his on the second, but I might be mistaken. Obviously, I don't see any reason for his good rating in this last matches(his goal not included) |
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Jun 22 2009, 11:50 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 22 2009, 10:36 AM) Agreed, there aren't 23 players on that list so a couple more could be chosen, I just ran out of names... Imagine this Italy team Buffon Zambrotta--Santacroce--Chiellini--De Ceglie Pirlo--De Rossi Rossi--Giovinco--Cassano Ballottelli (IMG:style_emoticons/default/droolsmiley.gif) Experiance, youth, flair, skill, grit. Zambrotta, Chiellini and De Rossi were pretty bad in this competition. Zambrotta was good in defense though and his experience is needed if it's going to be a young defense. Santon should play ahead of De Ceglie though. Cassano and BBaallootteellii (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (Balotelli) have no place in any serious team no matter how talented they are. ---------- So, who would you bet on, Spain or Brazil? I hope it's going to be a great final! QUOTE Blog: Double standards How would you feel about Italy’s Confederations Cup humiliation if the Coach was still Roberto Donadoni? Steve Wilson thinks it would be very different Humiliating defeats to Egypt and Brazil, elimination at the first possibility – Italy could quite readily expect to be pelted with rotten tomatoes when they return to the peninsula after the Confederations Cup. They won’t be though. Why not? Because the Coach already made clear his disdain for the event so this debacle comes as no shock. Ask yourself this though, how would you have reacted to this shaming if the Coach was still the unloved Roberto Donadoni? The Napoli boss was lambasted and pilloried last summer after the Azzurri slipped out of Euro 2008 at the quarter-final stage. His selections were derided all through his tenure as he was haunted by the shadow of Marcello Lippi. Had he been in charge for this sorry affair he would have been lucky to be allowed back into the country. However, Lippi was self-assured enough to sit on the bench with a wry smile on his face as an average Brazil side mocked his team. We looked on, hoping that his pre-tournament indifference was a mind game to lull Brazil and Spain into a false sense of security. But, no, he really did have no desire to be in South Africa any longer than necessary. Why call up Gennaro Gattuso when he was clearly not match fit? Why take young gun Davide Santon and then give him no playing time? How, just 12 months from defending the World Cup, can he go through five different strike combinations in 15 days? Compare Lippi’s attitude to that of Spain Coach Vicente Del Bosque. “The team that wins the Confederations Cup never wins the World Cup, so I'm not sure I want to win it,” said the Italy boss miserably. “We've come here to win the Confederations Cup,” was Del Bosque’s upbeat approach. The Spanish won Euro 2008, but for them that was the start. You can’t help but now feel that Italy’s World Cup win was the culmination of a journey, not a bright beginning. Lippi’s main concern that no team had ever won the Confed Cup and then gone on to lift the World Cup should have been the platform for taking a positive attitude to South Africa and attempting to be the first nation to win both back-to-back. A winning mentality is far easier to maintain than shaking off a losers tag and the detrimental effect of this event will carry over to the main stage next summer. Hey, but at least it’s not Donadoni in charge, eh…? ::channel4:: Exactly! Dedicated to all Donadoni bashers, I hope you're enjoying the new Lippi era. |
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Jun 22 2009, 02:15 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 22 2009, 10:50 AM) Zambrotta, Chiellini and De Rossi were pretty bad in this competition. Zambrotta was good in defense though and his experience is needed if it's going to be a young defense. Santon should play ahead of De Ceglie though. Cassano and BBaallootteellii (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (Balotelli) have no place in any serious team no matter how talented they are. Well hey, it's better then seeing Toni and Iaquinta lumbering around the pitch, they made Gila look like Ronaldo circa 99. Santon is probably the better player but the fact that he's not naturally left footed really holds him back. At Inter he usually had to turn and switch feet in order to cross, which really wastes a lot of time thus him being closed down. There have been a lot ofplayers with the same attitude as Cassano and Balottelli but they usually find common ground on the pitch, And that's all that really matters. And isn't Balottelli spelled with a double t? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) BBaallootteellii that a really cool name (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jun 22 2009, 02:30 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
santon is a rb and should/could be played there. the the only reason he played at LB for inter was cuz of injuries.
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Jun 22 2009, 02:33 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Looks like the end of an era for Italian football then. Sort of sad really, some of the players they've had over the last 10 years has been incredible.
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Jun 22 2009, 04:01 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 22 2009, 01:33 PM) Looks like the end of an era for Italian football then. Sort of sad really, some of the players they've had over the last 10 years has been incredible. There are many great talents waiting to be part of the national team. But that will only happen once coaches accept that some of the players have no business being on the NT anymore. Lippi will certainly not be that man |
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Jun 24 2009, 08:18 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Moderators Posts: 2,700 Joined: 22-October 05 From: US of A Member No.: 703 |
are you kidding me?
USA up 1-0 over Spain at halftime?? |
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Jun 24 2009, 08:28 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 24 2009, 08:18 PM) are you kidding me? USA up 1-0 over Spain at halftime?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I'm not watching, but What the hell?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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Jun 24 2009, 08:50 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Moderators Posts: 2,700 Joined: 22-October 05 From: US of A Member No.: 703 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 24 2009, 02:28 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I'm not watching, but What the hell?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) great game so far! spain is playing well, but so far the US is keeping up with them. great game to watch...a ton of offense from both sides. |
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Jun 24 2009, 09:06 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
LMAO 2-0
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Jun 24 2009, 09:21 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
Wouldn't it be great if the US just crashed the party and went all the way to win this thing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jun 24 2009, 10:03 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Moderators Posts: 2,700 Joined: 22-October 05 From: US of A Member No.: 703 |
just got a chance to sit down at my computer
can't believe what i just watched...what a great game by the US. much more proud to be US soccer fan than I was when we played Italy and Brazil! |
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Jun 24 2009, 10:50 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
congrats to US!! Spain were being too arrogant recently. a little kick in the butt was needed.
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