[I_Rossoneri]

Well, it's either cut costs - and wages are by far the biggest single cost - or end up several hundred million in debt. Which would you prefer?

I would prefer a CEO who doesn't give silly contracts to aging players past their best. Ironically enough this is the same CEO who kept harping on about Milan being in the black not so long ago...

Our management are wonderful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Zed.D]

Not necessarily. If we can remove dead weight such as Favalli, Dida, Emo, Zambrotta, Kalac etc and promote a Primavera player or two such as Darmian we wouldnt have to make cuts, or at least not to everyone

Yup there are many players who seem to earn more than they deserve... if they go away, there won't be a need to cut everyone's wages.

But... I'm not so sure about this... since when do we have to take these reports seriously?

+1

[LaPalma]

sheiks, thats who i would prefer.

Then ask R7 to buy you a club.

[Jack Sparrow]

Ha. He won't. He'll tell you there's no return on investment. Ask him to buy you a telecom company, or a nuclear power company. He'll ask you come up with a business plan, so he can give you the funds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I agree. The 30% wage cut, implies a shedding of flab mostly. I would reckon the wage bill doesn't just comprise the player wages. Also a lot of backroom staff etc. Trimming there, might save a god 3-5 mill as well. Especially if you got rid of all the useless medical staff.

But my guess is that the mandate says cut overall expenses by 30%, and not just the wage bill. That sounds to me, to make much more sense. It's what all companies are doing. Of course wage cuts would have a role in it too.

[I_Rossoneri]

Ha. He won't. He'll tell you there's no return on investment. Ask him to buy you a telecom company, or a nuclear power company. He'll ask you come up with a business plan, so he can give you the funds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I agree. The 30% wage cut, implies a shedding of flab mostly. I would reckon the wage bill doesn't just comprise the player wages. Also a lot of backroom staff etc. Trimming there, might save a god 3-5 mill as well. Especially if you got rid of all the useless medical staff.

But my guess is that the mandate says cut overall expenses by 30%, and not just the wage bill. That sounds to me, to make much more sense. It's what all companies are doing. Of course wage cuts would have a role in it too.

Chelsea have done something similar(down sizing their youth talent spotters etc). As long as we rid ourselves of deadwood I'll be happy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

sheiks, thats who i would prefer.

Now I don't understand how you can honestly say this? You know what that means? Do you know how much harm can be done by that? I don't think any "real" Manchester City fan can be proud of his team at the moment. I wouldn't be. The way they handle, the way they manage the club,..is it really that we support Milan based on trophies and trophies to be won? I don't. While I disagree with some decisions of our "stupid" board and managers, I'm still proud and ensured that the way our management approaches matters is with style and respect.

[Bluesummers]

Now I don't understand how you can honestly say this? You know what that means? Do you know how much harm can be done by that? I don't think any "real" Manchester City fan can be proud of his team at the moment. I wouldn't be. The way they handle, the way they manage the club,..is it really that we support Milan based on trophies and trophies to be won? I don't. While I disagree with some decisions of our "stupid" board and managers, I'm still proud and ensured that the way our management approaches matters is with style and respect.

I see, well in my opinion...Milan are a football club first and foremost. Our number 1 priority is to win trophies. While I do like many of management's current value/policies, I do not think they can financially handle the markets of today. We are not a humanitarian support group or a donation center or a retirement home. We are a football club and if our coach is doing what he is doing now, we either expect him to change or leave. Same goes for player. You either play top quality football or we find your replacement. However, our board does not have such demands on either the coach or players. Therefore you see the mess today.

Furthermore, our board constantly supplies our team with useless aging players such as favalli, emerson, beckham etc. Instead of taking time to invest money properly and getting a return from that investment (pato). That is why I would rather the sheiks run this club than berlu because I think they would do a much better job keeping milan where it should be.


Berlu is the president of italy and possibly in his situations can't dish out a 100 million every season for milan to spend.


If we can't afford to buy worldclass players then we should buy youth players and develop them. Go invest in santacroce, Jo, di silverstri etc and co.

[Tennie]

I thought you believed Milan was a business, blue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[MizNelson]

Berlu wants to cut wages and supposedly trim dead weight, and yet we invest in another has-been thirtysomething in Becks. Eh, yeah. If he's around next season while Dida gets dumped, I will be very upset.

This post has been edited by MizNelson: Mar 7 2009, 02:13 AM

[Bluesummers]

I thought you believed Milan was a business, blue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

and your point is? Milan is a business. Being a football club and winning trophies is good for business. They go hand in hand. What we are not though is a retirement home for players such as emerson, dida, favalli and co.


If we want to be a good business we must also become a good football club. Buy the best or produce the best to get the best results. Thats how i see it.


As mourinho says: No eggs - no omelettes! It depends on the quality of the eggs. In the supermarket you have class one, two or class three eggs and some are more expensive than others and some give you better omelettes. So when the class one eggs are in Waitrose and you cannot go there, you have a problem"

We are lacking severly in class one red & black quality eggs right now and that is we are suffering.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Mar 7 2009, 04:21 AM

[Jack Sparrow]

Berlu wants to cut wages and supposedly trim dead weight, and yet we invest in another has-been thirtysomething in Becks. Eh, yeah. If he's around next season while Dida gets dumped, I will be very upset.

You do know that as per the new contract Becks will we paid lesser than/as much as Dida, while still earning more for the club right? As much as it's tough, we have to admit, Becks has been professional and this has meant his marketting revenues have been even higher.

I'll admit I'm really really surprised at how well it worked out. I thought of him as merely being another Emerson type, but this one has been good.

And he does look cool in the red and black. The coolest he's ever been. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Jack Sparrow: Mar 7 2009, 08:03 AM

[Fillipo Simone]

and your point is? Milan is a business. Being a football club and winning trophies is good for business. They go hand in hand. What we are not though is a retirement home for players such as emerson, dida, favalli and co.


If we want to be a good business we must also become a good football club. Buy the best or produce the best to get the best results. Thats how i see it.

Business means selling Kaka also. Don't remember you were pro-Kaka-sale.
Business means selling Maldini, when Real was hot for such an option. Why not?

You know, we can't allways have everything. You have to decide. My decision goes to the board that never disappointed me in 20 years.

As mourinho says: No eggs - no omelettes! It depends on the quality of the eggs. In the supermarket you have class one, two or class three eggs and some are more expensive than others and some give you better omelettes. So when the class one eggs are in Waitrose and you cannot go there, you have a problem"

Haha.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ...love the Moe quotes. But that's not authentic. Read my sig.