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Posted on: Oct 9 2013, 09:38 AM |
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 9 2013, 07:47 AM) From what I've seen and read, he fills one important gap. He is good in the air. He is also good with the ball at his feet, so he can play sweeper. On the flip side, he loses concentration at times (my opinion). And often he has to compensate with some sort of wild move, which when it comes off makes him look spectacular but otherwise (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) - but if he'd had his head screwed on right he wouldn't need to have made it in the first place. In other words, I worry we've got another Mexes. As long as they don't both lose their heads at the same time, it could be a potent combo. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) EDIT: Here is an interesting article on him. ClickThanks for that link. It gave us a little peek into the kind of player/person he is. Seems he'd be a bit better than Mexes/Zapata, but nothing special really. But we need someone to shore up. So now we can boast of 6 average CBs in our team. Great (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Posted on: Jul 31 2013, 08:57 AM |
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jul 30 2013, 06:24 PM) €1m for the loan and €4m the buy-out clause. Another medocre player. Yay! 1m plus his 1.5m salary. That's 2.5m spent on a mediocre player for just one season. Great way to spend money. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Posted on: Aug 25 2011, 10:20 AM |
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 25 2011, 09:54 AM) hmm, aren't we playing with 2 DMs now, even without Pirlo, and what fast paced play are we talking about? Oh you must be thinking about that other team, CA Nilam, because Allegri's Milan is anything but fast. Yes Pirlo needs a DM behind him, but given that we still now play with 2 DMs, needed or not, it wouldn't really have made any difference. And we play with a turtle in our midfield, so saying Pirlo is slow isn't really all that much compared to what we currently have. Pirlo leaving was mostly down to Allegri, he didn't know how to include him so his best solution was to remove him, he did the same with Ronaldinho. He'd rather have a work horse midfield that punts the ball at Ibra then try to actually work on a midfield that works well. Pirlo wanted a longer contract, yes, but money was never the issue, his family is wealthy, he's been getting a lot of money for a long time now, and Juve did not give him the amount he was given here. And it's not like Juve are such an atraction these days either (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) You are in a way even confirming my point of view. We are still playing two DMs simply bcos we don't have alternatives. Replacing the types of Pirlo and R80 with different type of midfielders is the corrective measures the club is trying to take to address that issue. If that has not yet been achieved it doesn't mean the idea is wrong. Like it or not, Pirlo is a weight on the type of system Allegri wanted. It is no coincidence that Robinho got picked ahead of R80. And without Pirlo we did quite well. Why do you think the clubs focus has mostly been on the likes of Pastore/Hamsik/Ganso/Kaka/Montolivo? Players with different characteristics than Pirlo? Why aren't we focusing on a Pirlo-type, deep-lying playmaker? Because we want to move away from that. So in that sense Pirlo is not terribly important. The club/coach made it clear that he was welcomed to stay, at a reduced wage on a year deal. With the understanding that he's not gonna be the fulcrum thru which the team runs as has been the case in past years. We can't afford that luxury. He refused. Same deal was tabled to Seedorf, and he accepted. Pirlo is wealthy? What does that prove? That wealthy people/footballers don't want money? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Go check again, Juve is paying him almost the same thing he was paid at Milan (if not more). If its not an issue, why didn't he accept the 1 year deal at a reduced wage? So don't make it sound as if Milan is to blame, and Pirlo is such an indispensable player, a saint who was used and dumped by the club. |
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Posted on: Aug 25 2011, 09:33 AM |
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Since when has Pirlo become soooo indispensable? Even before Allegri came, we all know that long-ball-Pirlo has been on the down slide, with his slow pace and constant hoofing of the ball. Yeah, sure he's talented and all that, but fact is part of our problem in the midfield is how static it is. Allegri requires a different type of play - fast paced and full of running. Pirlo can't give you that. He's a player that needs a DM (or even two) to protect him for him to be effective. That we can't afford. Heck, most teams have jettisoned that system these days.
Then the management wisely introduced a system of not renewing players' contracts for more than one year if they are over 30. Seedorf, Ambro, Gattuso all accepted and even reduced their wages. Pirlo refused, wanted more than a year and on his current wage. The Gobbi came along and off he goes in a hurry. So how does that translated into Milan "unwisely letting him go"?
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Posted on: Aug 19 2011, 02:57 PM |
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 19 2011, 02:14 PM) We are not trying to lower a €40 million figure or something alike. Montolivo costs €10 million for Christ's sake! If we can't afford even that much, then we should simply stop trying. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I share the same feeling. If we can't afford to price Montolivo without throwing in halves of some youth players, then it is indeed pathetic. |
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Posted on: Aug 17 2011, 04:17 PM |
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Aug 17 2011, 04:10 PM) A good cook knows how to make the guests hungry. Yeah, well, no point in making the guests hungry if you'll give them unpalatable meal at the end (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Posted on: Aug 17 2011, 02:53 PM |
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 17 2011, 01:06 PM) Montolivo is different from Pirlo, and simply fits better in Allegri's midfield than Pirlo does. And Pirlo does had something similar, but you shouldn't be too obsessed with stats like that, else you get a response like mine which you will take too seriously.
Montolivo is creative, he can create attacks, and he is capable of scoring goals, and at least he can somewhat attack unlike Pirlo. And can defend well enough, unlike Pirlo. Aren't we saying the same thing? I say we are not looking for "another" Pirlo, and as such Montolivo would fit in Allegri's system better. So how does it look like am obsessed with stats? I just mentioned a fact that he went two seasons with a paltry four assists. That's not saying he won't/can't do better than that with Milan if he do join. If its not that important, it wouldn't have been mentioned in the article as one of his weaknesses/inconsistencies by the analysts. Like it or not, a creative midfielder should be able to assist. It ranks among his primary responsibilities. I don't care if you are Zidane, but if, being the creative player of a team, you go two complete seasons with a measly 4 assists and 0 goals, then that's seriously poor. By whatever standard ('70s or not). |
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Posted on: Aug 17 2011, 12:52 PM |
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 17 2011, 12:34 PM) Pirlo probably also something like that. So ideal Pirlo's replacement. 1. We are not looking to "replace" Pirlo as such. Allegri is not looking for a Pirlo-type player. 2. I want to believe even Pirlo gets more than four (4) assists in two years!!!!!!!!! And even if he doesn't that's beside the point, because we looking for a creative left side midfielder than create as well as score a few himself. |
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Posted on: Aug 17 2011, 12:29 PM |
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 17 2011, 11:20 AM) Personally I always rated them as good solid players, Montolivo tends to be a little inconsistant, but his abilities cannot be quastioned, so maybe playing in a more well rounded team will benefit his form and performances. While Aquilani has been unlucky these past 2 seasons.
I know I might have come off as if I'd prefer them over someone like Cesc, but the reality is that I never believed in the Cesc thing to begin with. I know what the club's financial limits are, therefore I will be more then happy with the 2 Italians and maybe next summer, if we are in a more stable position, we'll bring in a big name for the AM position. Do you know according to a statistics I read, he had only four assists in two seasons (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I can't believe it. Thats pretty poor. Still he'd improve our midfield for sure. |
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Posted on: Aug 17 2011, 10:51 AM |
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 17 2011, 10:17 AM) Come on blue!!! No one really is depressed about Fabregas, because even the ones who were on the bandwagon, deep down, they knew he would never happen for us. I'm just surprised that you believed in it so much. It's shocking to me how the Ibrahimovic deal last season has absolutely blinded some people into thinking Galliani is the Messiah... Have we all forgotten the last6 years of mediocre signings?? That is why I'd be extatic if we goth Montolivo and Aquilani, I'd be disappointed if we got just 1 of them, and livid if we ended up with no one. Schweinsteiger is on the same level as Cesc, he's not going to come. Montolivo and Aquilani are both quality players with a lot of Serie A experience who probably would adjust instantly to our system. This is why I myself and a lot of other wants them to come. Only the ones who were believing in the Fabregas deal are turning their nose at them. Which imo is completely ridiculous as we were never going to get him in the first place. LOL!!!! Galliani is mad at Raiola?? What could little Mino do if the club didn't give him the money to negotiate with? Stupid rumour. Personally I believe that Raiola wasn't working on anything for us and we were never really even close to signing Fabregas. Completely agree with you jacky Both had good seasons in the CL for Roma and Fiorentina. Aquilani first really caught my eye in the CL for Roma. The move to Liverpool was a mistake imo, he would never have made it there. That league is not made for players like Aquilani, maybe Gattuso would have made it big there in his prime days, but players like Aquilani, Montolivo, Pirlo, etc would never make it in the EPL, they're just too delicate for it Come on blue! Silvio promises 2 champions every summer, and yet rarely delivers. And this is a common trend, especially when some sort of elections are coming up. He's a politician my friend, he's built to lie (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Great one, han (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Personally I don't rate Monty and Aquilani that high, but realistically they are our best shot. They might not be world class, but our midfield is so terrible that they can actually improve it. They would add flair and some creativity. I never for one day believe the Cesc and Shweini rumour. Its just rubbish. The whole mister X thing is some ridiculous idea of Galliani. He's such a clown. And the painful thing is he's ridiculing the club and the fans by these unnecessary bullsh*t. |
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Posted on: Jul 22 2011, 08:52 AM |
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 22 2011, 01:39 AM) Galliani is the best at what he does. His methods are only a bit... unorthodox. Bullsh*t. People talk as if Galliani has been signing the best players out there at bargain prices, better than any club. Just try to compare the players Inter signed in recent times (Eto'o, Lucio, Sneijder, Milito, Maicon etc). They did that without making a fool of themselves or looking like clowns. Just compare thier prices and calibre with the likes of Ronaldinho, Oddo, Socratis, ROnaldo, Ibra. |
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