[Fillipo Simone]

Week 1

25/08/2019

Cagliari-Brescia

Fiorentina-Napoli

Verona-Bologna

Inter-Lecce

Parma-Juventus

Roma-Genoa

Sampdoria-Lazio

SPAL-Atalanta

Torino-Sassuolo

Udinese-Milan

Week 2

01/09/2019

Atalanta-Torino

Bologna-SPAL

Cagliari-Inter

Genoa-Fiorentina

Juventus-Napoli

Lazio-Roma

Lecce-Verona

Milan-Brescia

Sassuolo-Sampdoria

Udinese-Parma

Week 3

15/09/2019

Brescia-Bologna

Fiorentina-Juventus

Genoa-Atalanta

Verona-Milan

Inter-Udinese

Napoli-Sampdoria

Parma-Cagliari

Roma-Sassuolo

SPAL-Lazio

Torino-Lecce

Week 4

22/09/2019

Atalanta-Fiorentina

Bologna-Roma

Cagliari-Genoa

Juventus-Verona

Lazio-Parma

Lecce-Napoli

Milan-Inter

Sampdoria-Torino

Sassuolo-SPAL

Udinese-Brescia

Week 5

25/09/2019

Brescia-Juventus

Fiorentina-Sampdoria

Genoa-Bologna

Verona-Udinese

Inter-Lazio

Napoli-Cagliari

Parma-Sassuolo

Roma-Atalanta

SPAL-Lecce

Torino-Milan

Week 6

29/09/2019

Cagliari-Verona

Juventus-SPAL

Lazio-Genoa

Lecce-Roma

Milan-Fiorentina

Napoli-Brescia

Parma-Torino

Sampdoria-Inter

Sassuolo-Atalanta

Udinese-Bologna

Week 7

06/10/2019

Atalanta-Lecce

Bologna-Lazio

Brescia-Sassuolo

Fiorentina-Udinese

Genoa-Milan

Verona-Sampdoria

Inter-Juventus

Roma-Cagliari

SPAL-Parma

Torino-Napoli

Week 8

20/10/2019

Brescia-Fiorentina

Cagliari-SPAL

Juventus-Bologna

Lazio-Atalanta

Milan-Lecce

Napoli-Verona

Parma-Genoa

Sampdoria-Roma

Sassuolo-Inter

Udinese-Torino

Week 9

27/10/2019

Atalanta-Udinese

Bologna-Sampdoria

Fiorentina-Lazio

Genoa-Brescia

Verona-Sassuolo

Inter-Parma

Lecce-Juventus

Roma-Milan

SPAL-Napoli

Torino-Cagliari

Week 10

30/10/2019

Brescia-Inter

Cagliari-Bologna

Juventus-Genoa

Lazio-Torino

Milan-SPAL

Napoli-Atalanta

Parma-Verona

Sampdoria-Lecce

Sassuolo-Fiorentina

Udinese-Roma

Week 11

03/11/2019

Atalanta-Cagliari

Bologna-Inter

Fiorentina-Parma

Genoa-Udinese

Verona-Brescia

Lecce-Sassuolo

Milan-Lazio

Roma-Napoli

SPAL-Sampdoria

Torino-Juventus

Week 12

10/11/2019

Brescia-Torino

Cagliari-Fiorentina

Inter-Verona

Juventus-Milan

Lazio-Lecce

Napoli-Genoa

Parma-Roma

Sampdoria-Atalanta

Sassuolo-Bologna

Udinese-SPAL

Week 13

24/11/2019

Atalanta-Juventus

Bologna-Parma

Verona-Fiorentina

Lecce-Cagliari

Milan-Napoli

Roma-Brescia

Sampdoria-Udinese

Sassuolo-Lazio

SPAL-Genoa

Torino-Inter

Week 14

01/12/2019

Brescia-Atalanta

Cagliari-Sampdoria

Fiorentina-Lecce

Genoa-Torino

Verona-Roma

Inter-SPAL

Juventus-Sassuolo

Lazio-Udinese

Napoli-Bologna

Parma-Milan

Week 15

08/12/2019

Bologna-Milan

Inter-Roma

Lazio-Juventus

Lecce-Genoa

Sampdoria-Parma

Sassuolo-Cagliari

SPAL-Brescia

Torino-Fiorentina

Udinese-Napoli

Week 16

15/12/2019

Bologna-Atalanta

Brescia-Lecce

Cagliari-Lazio

Fiorentina-Inter

Genoa-Sampdoria

Verona-Torino

Juventus-Udinese

Milan-Sassuolo

Napoli-Parma

Roma-SPAL

Week 17

22/12/2019

Atalanta-Milan

Fiorentina-Roma

Inter-Genoa

Lazio-Verona

Lecce-Bologna

Parma-Brescia

Sampdoria-Juventus

Sassuolo-Napoli

Torino-SPAL

Udinese-Cagliari

Week 18

05/01/2020

Atalanta-Parma

Bologna-Fiorentina

Brescia-Lazio

Genoa-Sassuolo

Juventus-Cagliari

Lecce-Udinese

Milan-Sampdoria

Napoli-Inter

Roma-Torino

SPAL-Verona

Week 19

12/01/2020

Cagliari-Milan

Fiorentina-SPAL

Verona-Genoa

Inter-Atalanta

Lazio-Napoli

Parma-Lecce

Roma-Juventus

Sampdoria-Brescia

Torino-Bologna

Udinese-Sassuolo

Week 20

19/01/2020

Atalanta-SPAL

Bologna-Verona

Brescia-Cagliari

Genoa-Roma

Juventus-Parma

Lazio-Sampdoria

Lecce-Inter

Milan-Udinese

Napoli-Fiorentina

Sassuolo-Torino

Week 21

26/01/2020

Brescia-Milan

Fiorentina-Genoa

Inter-Cagliari

Napoli-Juventus

Parma-Udinese

Roma-Lazio

Sampdoria-Sassuolo

SPAL-Bologna

Torino-Atalanta

Verona-Lecce

Week 22

02/02/2020

Atalanta-Genoa

Bologna-Brescia

Cagliari-Parma

Juventus-Fiorentina

Lazio-SPAL

Lecce-Torino

Milan-Verona

Sampdoria-Napoli

Sassuolo-Roma

Udinese-Inter

Week 23

09/02/2020

Brescia-Udinese

Fiorentina-Atalanta

Genoa-Cagliari

Inter-Milan

Napoli-Lecce

Parma-Lazio

Roma-Bologna

SPAL-Sassuolo

Torino-Sampdoria

Verona-Juventus

Week 24

16/02/2020

Atalanta-Roma

Bologna-Genoa

Cagliari-Napoli

Juventus-Brescia

Lazio-Inter

Lecce-SPAL

Milan-Torino

Sampdoria-Fiorentina

Sassuolo-Parma

Udinese-Verona

Week 25

23/02/2020

Atalanta-Sassuolo

Bologna-Udinese

Brescia-Napoli

Fiorentina-Milan

Genoa-Lazio

Inter-Sampdoria

Roma-Lecce

SPAL-Juventus

Torino-Parma

Verona-Cagliari

Week 26

01/03/2020

Cagliari-Roma

Juventus-Inter

Lazio-Bologna

Lecce-Atalanta

Milan-Genoa

Napoli-Torino

Parma-SPAL

Sampdoria-Verona

Sassuolo-Brescia

Udinese-Fiorentina

Week 27

08/03/2020

Atalanta-Lazio

Bologna-Juventus

Fiorentina-Brescia

Genoa-Parma

Inter-Sassuolo

Lecce-Milan

Roma-Sampdoria

SPAL-Cagliari

Torino-Udinese

Verona-Napoli

Week 28

15/03/2020

Cagliari-Torino

Brescia-Genoa

Juventus-Lecce

Lazio-Fiorentina

Milan-Roma

Napoli-SPAL

Parma-Inter

Sampdoria-Bologna

Sassuolo-Verona

Udinese-Atalanta

Week 29

22/03/2020

Atalanta-Napoli

Bologna-Cagliari

Genoa-Juventus

Fiorentina-Sassuolo

Inter-Brescia

Lecce-Sampdoria

Roma-Udinese

SPAL-Milan

Torino-Lazio

Verona-Parma

Week 30

05/04/2020

Cagliari-Atalanta

Brescia-Verona

Inter-Bologna

Juventus-Torino

Lazio-Milan

Napoli-Roma

Parma-Fiorentina

Sampdoria-SPAL

Sassuolo-Lecce

Udinese-Genoa

Week 31

11/04/2020

Atalanta-Sampdoria

Bologna-Sassuolo

Fiorentina-Cagliari

Genoa-Napoli

Lecce-Lazio

Milan-Juventus

Roma-Parma

SPAL-Udinese

Torino-Brescia

Verona-Inter

Week 32

19/04/2020

Brescia-Roma

Cagliari-Lecce

Fiorentina-Verona

Genoa-SPAL

Inter-Torino

Juventus-Atalanta

Lazio-Sassuolo

Napoli-Milan

Parma-Bologna

Udinese-Sampdoria

Week 33

22/04/2020

Atalanta-Brescia

Bologna-Napoli

Lecce-Fiorentina

Milan-Parma

Roma-Verona

Sampdoria-Cagliari

Sassuolo-Juventus

SPAL-Inter

Torino-Genoa

Udinese-Lazio

Week 34

26/04/2020

Brescia-SPAL

Cagliari-Sassuolo

Fiorentina-Torino

Genoa-Lecce

Juventus-Lazio

Milan-Bologna

Napoli-Udinese

Parma-Sampdoria

Roma-Inter

Verona-Atalanta

Week 35

03/05/2020

Atalanta-Bologna

Inter-Fiorentina

Lazio-Cagliari

Lecce-Brescia

Parma-Napoli

Sampdoria-Genoa

Sassuolo-Milan

SPAL-Roma

Torino-Verona

Udinese-Juventus

Week 36

10/05/2020

Bologna-Lecce

Brescia-Parma

Cagliari-Udinese

Genoa-Inter

Juventus-Sampdoria

Milan-Atalanta

Napoli-Sassuolo

Roma-Fiorentina

SPAL-Torino

Verona-Lazio

Week 37

17/05/2020

Cagliari-Juventus

Fiorentina-Bologna

Inter-Napoli

Lazio-Brescia

Parma-Atalanta

Sampdoria-Milan

Sassuolo-Genoa

Torino-Roma

Udinese-Lecce

Verona-SPAL

Week 38

24/05/2020

Atalanta-Inter

Bologna-Torino

Brescia-Sampdoria

Genoa-Verona

Juventus-Roma

Lecce-Parma

Milan-Cagliari

Napoli-Lazio

Sassuolo-Udinese

SPAL-Fiorentina

[han2503]

Is there an ounce of Milan left in Pirlo?

He seems to have just airbrushed us out of his entire career and is doing everything he can to violate the memories.

No matter what he says, he knows his most prestigious trophies came during his time at Milan.

He's salty about the fact that Galliani did not want to give him more than a year renewal (has a point) and the fact that while at Milan he was never the biggest star on the team, he was always outshone by others during his time with us.

[X-Offender]

I honestly don't care. We're the ones who let him go, depriving ourselves of one of the biggest talents in Italian football ever, for free nonetheless! Juve welcomed him, treated him with respect, gave him the U23 and now the first team jobs. Was he just supposed to tell them to f*ck off?

He's doing the right thing for his career, but the chances of him being burnt right away are very high. Juventus is a very unstable environment right now, and not everyone can become like Zidane.

[han2503]

I honestly don't care. We're the ones who let him go, depriving ourselves of one of the biggest talents in Italian football ever, for free nonetheless! Juve welcomed him, treated him with respect, gave him the U23 and now the first team jobs. Was he just supposed to tell them to f*ck off?

He's doing the right thing for his career, but the chances of him being burnt right away are very high. Juventus is a very unstable environment right now, and not everyone can become like Zidane.

True, one of the worst mistakes made by Galliani among a whole lot of other mistakes

But you can't deny that Pirlo has been a little b!tch about Milan. His book especially was one huge whine fest

[X-Offender]

True, one of the worst mistakes made by Galliani among a whole lot of other mistakes

But you can't deny that Pirlo has been a little b!tch about Milan. His book especially was one huge whine fest

I don't remember, what did he say?

[Danny]

True, one of the worst mistakes made by Galliani among a whole lot of other mistakes

But you can't deny that Pirlo has been a little b!tch about Milan. His book especially was one huge whine fest

Funny thing is his form was pretty rotten by the time we let him go, which, yes, was a mistake, but then he goes to Juve and probably hits his career best form and becomes an intergalactic hero.

And yes, he was horrible about us, very petty, and it does sometimes feel like his post-Milan career was to spite us.

[X-Offender]

Pirlo was hardly rotten for us. Perhaps he was not shining as her did in the mid 00s, but I mean the 2008-2011 Milan was hardly a great side to be in. Everyone was underperforming. His last season with us (2010/11) he got an injury that kept him out for months. When he got back Allegri had already chosen van Bommel as his replacement, which pretty much pushed him out.

Funnily enough van Bommel would leave after one year, and Allegri would move to Juve where he would find Pirlo again and this time he had to shut his trap and accept Pirlo's brilliance.

[Danny]

I don't deny all of this, but his form was poor in those last 3 or 4 years, however you try to word it.

Can't strictly make the excuse that it was a rubbish team, because class always shines through. Look how Ibra has single handedly dragged Milan up?

[X-Offender]

It really depends on the type of player we're talking about. Players like Ibra, Kaka, Ronaldo etc. are individual players who carry their teams and make things happen on their own.

Pirlo was a player who relied on the collective for his qualities to shine through. He was a deep-lying playmaker after all, the man furthest away from attack. And I repeat, his last few years with us were good. Not excellent, but not terrible either.

[Danny]

It really depends on the type of player we're talking about. Players like Ibra, Kaka, Ronaldo etc. are individual players who carry their teams and make things happen on their own.

Pirlo was a player who relied on the collective for his qualities to shine through. He was a deep-lying playmaker after all, the man furthest away from attack. And I repeat, his last few years with us were good. Not excellent, but not terrible either.

You're just making excuses now! His last few years were mediocre at best. Good players will always look like good players no matter what team they're in or what position. Thing is, even if I was to buy your reasoning, we won the league in 2011!

Funny thing is he only played half of that season and hey presto, we played well enough without him to win the league!

[han2503]

I agree with Danny on this one. Pirlo's last few years were abysmal at best, and I remember us here on this very forum making excuses for him and talking about his position and whether he should be moved, and what the reasons were for his under-performing. When in actuality it was him that was the issue. Pirlo was THE star at Juve, which imo is why I think he looks back on his time there more fondly than he does at Milan, even if we were the club who gave him his identity and where he won the biggest honours of his career, including the World Cup

Pirlo was an ungrateful SoB. And he had the audacity to write in his book that he would have walked to Madrid in 06 but that his consolation was the CL win the following season. As if he was the catalyst for that win and not the big star of the Club during that time, which was Kaka and not him

He was always outshone during his time with us. Sheva, Kaka, Rui, Seedorf, Paolo, all had bigger personas and got the attention while Pirlo was playing for us, which imo is part of the reason he values his time at Juve more.

Having said all of that. No matter how he was playing for us, it was a fatal error that we let him leave for free. The fact that he went to Juve and kick started their era of dominance makes it even more egregious.

[Fillipo Simone]

Yep, agreed.