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kurtsimonw
post Jul 1 2007, 04:05 PM
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What ? Did you just recently began to cheer for Milan

No..

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Then explain to me Milan's situation with Kaka and Shevchenko when those top clubs were all over them in a bid to bring them in ?

About Shevchenko, we hardly paid pennies for him now did we?

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Ok .. This statement makes Milan look mediocre kind of like Villa

You make it sound like we find all these great young players, we don't. Kaka' is an exception.

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What ? Did you just recently began to cheer for Milan

If you look at our current starting XI, how many of them did we buy as unknowns, or very young players, that turned into stars? For me, Kaka' is the only one.

Dida: We didn't even realise his potential until he was nearly 30.
Oddo: We let him go, then signed him for E7m or so while he was 30!
Nesta: Was not cheap at E30m. Or very young at 26.
Maldini: He's been with us since the beginning, I don't know whetehr we found him, or he chose us.
Januklovski: I'm not sure how much he cost, but he wa already 28 and proven in Italy.
Seedorf: He'd won Champions League titles with Real/Ajax, enough said.
Pirlo: Was a very good find, but the fact he already played in Milan was a huge factor.
Kaka': In my opinion the ONLY great prospect we've bought in a while.
Gatusso: We spent £8m on him, and he'd already played for Rangers.
Gila: Spent a bomb load on him.
R9: Everybody on the planet knows him.

Gourcuff is another young player we've found that could be great, only time will tell.
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post Jul 1 2007, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 1 2007, 06:05 PM)
Maldini: He's been with us since the beginning, I don't know whetehr we found him, or he chose us.
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He choose Milan when he was a kid.
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post Jul 1 2007, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 1 2007, 06:05 PM)
About Shevchenko, we hardly paid pennies for him now did we?
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We do paid 25mil for him but the fact that the Dynamo president and Silvio are good friends helped to seal the deal too.
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post Jul 1 2007, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 1 2007, 03:13 PM)
We do paid 25mil for him but the fact that the Dynamo president and Silvio are good friends helped to seal the deal too.
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Cheers, pal.

You're pretty much solidifying my points here. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 1 2007, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 1 2007, 06:05 PM)
About Shevchenko, we hardly paid pennies for him now did we?
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We had been following him since he was 16! We had some kind of deal with Dynamo.

About the others:
Dida: Was a joke when we signed him, we turned him into gold.
Maldini: He chose Milan when his family moved in Milano. He was a Giuve fan then.
Pirlo: Not unknown but if Milan had not signed him he'd be playing in some low-table team now.
Gatusso: Was a 'foreigner'... I don't think any other team would show such powerful trust in him.

You guys are fighting over nothing... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Milan don't need to find youngsters simply because the policy of the club is NOT to find youngsters. They don't want to build a team for the future, they want a team for the present, a team that has the potential to win everything right on the instant! That doesn't mean they can't find youngsters though, they do when they see the need for it...

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post Jul 1 2007, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 1 2007, 06:05 PM)
No..
About Shevchenko, we hardly paid pennies for him now did we?
You make it sound like we find all these great young players, we don't. Kaka' is an exception.
If you look at our current starting XI, how many of them did we buy as unknowns, or very young players, that turned into stars? For me, Kaka' is the only one.

Dida: We didn't even realise his potential until he was nearly 30.
Oddo: We let him go, then signed him for E7m or so while he was 30!
Nesta: Was not cheap at E30m. Or very young at 26.
Maldini: He's been with us since the beginning, I don't know whetehr we found him, or he chose us.
Januklovski: I'm not sure how much he cost, but he wa already 28 and proven in Italy.
Seedorf: He'd won Champions League titles with Real/Ajax, enough said.
Pirlo: Was a very good find, but the fact he already played in Milan was a huge factor.
Kaka': In my opinion the ONLY great prospect we've bought in a while.
Gatusso: We spent £8m on him, and he'd already played for Rangers.
Gila: Spent a bomb load on him.
R9: Everybody on the planet knows him.

Gourcuff is another young player we've found that could be great, only time will tell.
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Ok .. Just to clear things up .. I asked Fillipo Simone an exaggerated question while answering his very own question (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Is there a young top-defender avaible?


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Did u know of Kaka before he came ?


I was referring to the club, and the club know what they are looking for in a player and not just who the fans hype up and want (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Now .. Milan doesn't look for these young unproven players. That is why they take advice from experts such as Leonardo before exploring these options. Milan is a very BIG club .. They don't bring in any player, all the fans know this (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Most of what u said I agree with .. But that wasn't my point to begin with (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My point was exactly what the president of Milan had stated, a young player (just as Kaka was, before he came) who doesn't have to be south american (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) will take Paolo's place.
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post Jul 1 2007, 04:51 PM
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I really dont know what are you fighting about,..we all know how things work with Milan, the discover and buy one or two players (like they did with Kaka, Boban, etc.) and mix it with the other two components in our team - home-made players (like Albertini, Baresi, Maldini, Billy, etc.) and players who had the luck to join Milan.

That knid of players should also be considered as Milan discoverys, or better, Milan projects, yes we turned them into gold.
@dst is right with Dida, remeber his first app., against Leeds in the CL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ?
Or Pirlo,...yes, he`d probably waist his time at Lazio or Fiora right now,...but these things have allways be the same - Pirlo = Eranio or Donadoni, Rino = Carletto, Gila = Massaro (only we didnt pay that much),...

The only thing I wanted to say is, that it is really much harder these days to discover, locate and sign a young talented defender who will probably turn into something than for any other position,...
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post Jul 1 2007, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 1 2007, 03:51 PM)
The only thing I wanted to say is, that it is really much harder these days to discover, locate and sign a young talented defender who will probably turn into something than for any other position,...
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I was kinda, trying to say something like that in some sort of way. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

It's hard to locate great young players full stop, in my opinion.

UNLESS you're willing to pay stupid amounts of money, like Real and Inter are.

P.S. I'm not entirely sure why we were fighting, I think we completely missed what each other was trying to say. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 1 2007, 05:49 PM
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Well, if you're looking for a quality young Italian defender, there is one. Chiellini. Only problem is that he's got Zebra cooties and I really doubt Juve would let him go.
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