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 May 15 2008, 11:25 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali  Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763  |
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 15 2008, 07:41 PM) Of course Pato has not been our best player, not because he lacks quality or isn't a good player, only because he started in January and missed a couple of matches due to injury, and recently Pippo's good form. he simply didn't play much. but he's proved he possesses consistency and more than that, can score when the matches are still even. except for his debut goal and the one he scored against Siena [he was a substitute], the rest of his goals came when Milan still hadn't scored a goal. that's a very good sign for an 18yo striker.  pato's season >>>>> Pippo's |
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May 15 2008, 11:52 PM
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Best substiton player :) Group: Full Members Posts: 911 Joined: 8-May 06 From: Croatia...Ljubljana, Slovenia Member No.: 1,810 |
QUOTE (Habitant @ May 16 2008, 12:25 AM) pato's season >>>>> Pippo's sorry, but that is so not true!! pippo was far more decisive, pato hasn't been good in any "big" match, except maybe agains fiorentina(when he scored only goal, pure luck if you remember) while pippo, well you know what he did... |
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May 16 2008, 12:05 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Pippo did nothing all season up until a month ago.
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May 16 2008, 12:18 AM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 15 2008, 09:50 PM) If we're looking for consistency then we should consider Pato too (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) He has only played like 15 (?) games, a season is much longer than that... he has been consistent in the games he played but when most of our other players have played 35+ games we just can't judge them on the same basics. |
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May 16 2008, 12:41 AM
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Best substiton player :) Group: Full Members Posts: 911 Joined: 8-May 06 From: Croatia...Ljubljana, Slovenia Member No.: 1,810 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 16 2008, 01:05 AM) Pippo did nothing all season up until a month ago. hm, forgetin super cup and world club champion...while pato did nothing than in january & februar |
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May 16 2008, 12:53 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
QUOTE (aLbErTo @ May 15 2008, 04:52 PM) sorry, but that is so not true!! pippo was far more decisive, pato hasn't been good in any "big" match, except maybe agains fiorentina(when he scored only goal, pure luck if you remember) while pippo, well you know what he did... You are right, but Pato's goal against Fiorentina was pure luck? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) OK! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVk9-P67Psg More like magic, than luck. The duck don't need no luck! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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May 16 2008, 12:58 AM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
I always worry a little when Kurt and I agree on things since we so rarely do, but I'm with him on this one.
Ambrosini has been the player of the season. Forza Massimo! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) |
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May 16 2008, 05:10 AM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
QUOTE (aLbErTo @ May 15 2008, 10:52 PM) sorry, but that is so not true!! pippo was far more decisive, pato hasn't been good in any "big" match, except maybe agains fiorentina(when he scored only goal, pure luck if you remember) while pippo, well you know what he did... how can sumone who took 12 months to score in the league and over half a seaosn to get a goal can be considered as one of our best players of the season is beyond me. pippo has been very good of late but come on, he's got all his goals in like 3 games and they were all tap ins. pato has been 10 times better than pippo this season. |
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May 16 2008, 07:10 AM
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Best substiton player :) Group: Full Members Posts: 911 Joined: 8-May 06 From: Croatia...Ljubljana, Slovenia Member No.: 1,810 |
QUOTE (Habitant @ May 16 2008, 06:10 AM) how can sumone who took 12 months to score in the league and over half a seaosn to get a goal can be considered as one of our best players of the season is beyond me. pippo has been very good of late but come on, he's got all his goals in like 3 games and they were all tap ins. pato has been 10 times better than pippo this season. QUOTE QUOTE 4) Pippo Inzaghi: Just like Kaka, you need to analyse Inzaghi closely to realise that he has had a pretty decent campaign. SuperPippo may have had an injury-hit season, but his statistics remain absolutely stunning. In 1757 minutes that he has been on the pitch – just over 19 games in total – he has scored 17 goals. That is a record that any striker in any league in the world would be proud to have. As he has been throughout his career, Inzaghi has been decisive in some key matches. He scored in the European Super Cup final win over Sevilla, and hit a double in the Club World Cup success. He scored four times in as many games in the Champions League, breaking Gerd Muller’s all-time UEFA scoring record in the process. Had Inzaghi been fit all season, Milan would have probably already qualified for the Champions League. |
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May 16 2008, 08:17 AM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (aLbErTo @ May 16 2008, 02:22 AM) sorry, but that is so not true!! pippo was far more decisive, pato hasn't been good in any "big" match, except maybe agains fiorentina(when he scored only goal, pure luck if you remember) while pippo, well you know what he did... I don't want to get into this Pippo debate again, but that bit you quoted from goal.com is exaggerating imo. In the league he has score 10 goals in 19 games. BUT in his first 14 matches he scored only 1 goal. judge for yourself... Pato's goal against Fiorentina was "pure luck"?! I strongly disagree with you! he made a great defender like Ujfalusi look like a school kid! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) it's not like he's scored all of his goals on tap ins (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And who's said Pato's only decisive goal was that one? 6 of his goals came when we were badly STRUGGLING and couldn't score a goal. it's a shame you people forget too quickly... QUOTE (dst @ May 16 2008, 02:48 AM) He has only played like 15 (?) games, a season is much longer than that... he has been consistent in the games he played but when most of our other players have played 35+ games we just can't judge them on the same basics. I know... I said he has not been one of our best simply because he hasn't played enough, didn't I? All I'm saying is that he has scored consistently. This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: May 16 2008, 08:25 AM |
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May 16 2008, 11:25 AM
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Best substiton player :) Group: Full Members Posts: 911 Joined: 8-May 06 From: Croatia...Ljubljana, Slovenia Member No.: 1,810 |
you're right, don't think me and dst are forgeting pato's goals, as he's really been good...i'm sure he'll be milan's player of the season many times...if you make a line, all our strikers have been in form as one really good striker (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
thereabout, it kinda looks ambro really deserves award more then anybody this year This post has been edited by aLbErTo: May 16 2008, 11:26 AM |
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May 16 2008, 04:36 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Moderators Posts: 2,700 Joined: 22-October 05 From: US of A Member No.: 703 |
i think what is more pathetic about this whole debate is that, in past years, we've had one guy that has stood WAY out above the rest. like last year's kaka.
the truth is, we did not have one single player that played consistent football from start to finish. |
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May 16 2008, 04:55 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
It surprises me how Pippo can be considered, yes he's scored in some VERY important matches, but to me to be considered a player of the season for a team you have to be present for more then 1/4 of the season.
And this is not to start another argument about Pippo because I am greatful for the important goals he's scored for us in these last few games, but imo he shouldn't be a contender for player of the season If it was a player of the month thing I think he would just edge out Kaka based on the decicive goals but not player of the season. Personally I agree with Ambro being the guy, for he didn't have that much of a good season, because he didn't play at his best, last season he played much better, but based on consistancy, he's the only one that has been there constantly for us this season and putting in good performances (not his best, but still he was consistantly good throughout the season) For me Ambro wins it on just being consistant because of we're being honest no one on our team had a great season, Pato, also was always consistant with his performances but still missed half a season because he couldn't play |
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May 16 2008, 04:57 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Warchant @ May 16 2008, 03:36 PM) i think what is more pathetic about this whole debate is that, in past years, we've had one guy that has stood WAY out above the rest. like last year's kaka. the truth is, we did not have one single player that played consistent football from start to finish. Exactly, Ambro was the only consistant performer, his performances were always just good nothing special but he never had games like Pirlo or Seedorf where you just want Carlo to get them off. As I said in my previous post, Ambro only wins this for me is because he was the only consistant player on the team |
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May 17 2008, 10:00 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
Well...going by ability to performance ratio....
1. Kalac 2. Ambro 3. Nesta 4. Pato 5. Pippo 6. Bonera 7. Kaka 8. Seedorf 9. Gattusso MVP: Ambro Revelation: Paloschi. I know some of you will say Pato. But honestly, when you pay 15 mill for a player, he ought to be good. And we would have been very disappointed if Pato had flopped, while with Palo, we wouldn't have cared. Pleasant surprises: Bonera (I'd given up on him, but he could still be our next Stam (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , too late for him to be the first Bonera I think ), Pippo (when fit, he can still lead an attack...I'd put him down as a super sub), Ambro (the fire still burns. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Disappointments: Posted in other thread. Poor poor Andy. He needs rest...but now the goddamn euros come in. |
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