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Serie A - Week 5 - Bologna - Milan, Date: 25/09/13 Time: 20:45 CET |
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Sep 25 2013, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 26 2013, 02:59 AM) No matter how mediocre you think our players are kurt, they're still better than all the players from Verona, Bologna and Torino. (IMG: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fEXyKe5WLmk/UZ0uDdCJrCI/AAAAAAAAL_o/kS5Jzlu7IDE/s400/gandalf.gif) Are they, now? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Because I see more than a few dirty eggs, rotten scoundrels and freeloaders, some of them who would be playing for some unknown teams by now if it were not for the coach. All our heroes are weirdos in that they get injured and miss most of the season, or get a red card at the most inopportune moment. In fact, to be brutally honest, apart from Abate, Mexes, Poli everyone else was, for the lack of a better word CRAP. De Jong I'm not a massive fan of though I understand all that he brings, so you can take him out of the other list. Same goes for that Birsa chap. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Rest everyone deserved to be slapped with a salmon. I'd take the best players from the teams you mentioned ahead of these charlatans, any given Sunday.
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Sep 25 2013, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 25 2013, 10:19 PM) (IMG: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fEXyKe5WLmk/UZ0uDdCJrCI/AAAAAAAAL_o/kS5Jzlu7IDE/s400/gandalf.gif) Are they, now? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Because I see more than a few dirty eggs, rotten scoundrels and freeloaders, some of them who would be playing for some unknown teams by now if it were not for the coach. All our heroes are weirdos in that they get injured and miss most of the season, or get a red card at the most inopportune moment. In fact, to be brutally honest, apart from Abate, Mexes, Poli everyone else was, for the lack of a better word CRAP. De Jong I'm not a massive fan of though I understand all that he brings, so you can take him out of the other list. Same goes for that Birsa chap. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Rest everyone deserved to be slapped with a salmon. I'd take the best players from the teams you mentioned ahead of these charlatans, any given Sunday. It really does not mattr if they're rotten eggs or not they're still better players then what thpse teams have and the only reason they wouldn't jump at the chance of signing one of our players is because of the ridiculous wages Galliani has them on
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Sep 25 2013, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 26 2013, 03:29 AM) It really does not mattr if they're rotten eggs or not they're still better players then what thpse teams have and the only reason they wouldn't jump at the chance of signing one of our players is because of the ridiculous wages Galliani has them on Man, it does Matri. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Sorry, couldn't help it. It's the evil retarded mind of Galliani that cooks these things up. I'd actually blame the partners in crime even more, those doofuses in the background like Braida. Even Tassoti is fast taking a leave from my good books considering how our defense is in shambles. But then again, one can argue that what we have is pretty bad to start with. See Mexes is an 8 defender, but one that makes mistakes. So he needs a 10 by his side like Silva or Nesta. What he actually has is a downright 5 in Zapata, someone who is just as good as he is bad. A nobody players. A Udinese over hyped creation, nothing else. This guy took Villareal was it to the bottom division, what more there is to say. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) So when you pair him up in the back with Mexes, instead of a 8 or 9 defense, you end up with 6 or 7. Throw in Abate who himself is quite often questionable (oh, he is), you pretty much have a non existent defense. Throw in a keeper who was never even good to begin with, nothing special truth be told, bench material. And you are going to leak goals like there is no tomorrow. And that's without even talking about coaching, training, strategy and chemistry. See, that's just one area, it's wrong from A to Z. You go further up the team in the mid and attack, and you will see the same mess. Now the small teams you mentioned above, they have one, two, three players who can play in this Milan and will bench most of the usual gang of idiots we start every week. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Other players in these teams are average, but they work in rhythm. I caught the highlights of the first round, all teams in Serie A, and many teams put up better players than Muntari, Matri, Robinho, Niang, Abbiati, Zapata, Urby and whatnot. Sure with a fit Kaka, Balotelli, Montolivo, Poli, De Jong, and friends we will win matches later in the season, but man, we have some real stinkers in the team.
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Sep 25 2013, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 25 2013, 03:54 PM) Man, it does Matri. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Sorry, couldn't help it. It's the evil retarded mind of Galliani that cooks these things up. I'd actually blame the partners in crime even more, those doofuses in the background like Braida. Even Tassoti is fast taking a leave from my good books considering how our defense is in shambles. But then again, one can argue that what we have is pretty bad to start with. See Mexes is an 8 defender, but one that makes mistakes. So he needs a 10 by his side like Silva or Nesta. What he actually has is a downright 5 in Zapata, someone who is just as good as he is bad. A nobody players. A Udinese over hyped creation, nothing else. This guy took Villareal was it to the bottom division, what more there is to say. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) So when you pair him up in the back with Mexes, instead of a 8 or 9 defense, you end up with 6 or 7. Throw in Abate who himself is quite often questionable (oh, he is), you pretty much have a non existent defense. Throw in a keeper who was never even good to begin with, nothing special truth be told, bench material. And you are going to leak goals like there is no tomorrow. And that's without even talking about coaching, training, strategy and chemistry. See, that's just one area, it's wrong from A to Z. You go further up the team in the mid and attack, and you will see the same mess. Now the small teams you mentioned above, they have one, two, three players who can play in this Milan and will bench most of the usual gang of idiots we start every week. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Other players in these teams are average, but they work in rhythm. I caught the highlights of the first round, all teams in Serie A, and many teams put up better players than Muntari, Matri, Robinho, Niang, Abbiati, Zapata, Urby and whatnot. Sure with a fit Kaka, Balotelli, Montolivo, Poli, De Jong, and friends we will win matches later in the season, but man, we have some real stinkers in the team. +1 All great points, I thought Zapata would be stepping up but, he just doesn't have it in him. Mexes always plays better when he has someone better than him playing beside him. As far as the GK situation, I think that Abbiati was more than a little pissed when we took the captaincy from him. Before this year, it was usually the player with the team longest who took the band. All in all, I think that the defense is in shambles, we concede far too many goals. Here's to hoping that we find a youth team gem who can command the back line. Also Poli is quickly becoming one of my favorite players, the guy always gives 100% and although there are times when he goes missing, I see a lot of Marchisio in him which is exciting.
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Sep 26 2013, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 26 2013, 04:48 AM) Someone should ask him what do we have to get back on track? Touché. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE (maldini03 @ Sep 26 2013, 04:51 AM) All great points, I thought Zapata would be stepping up but, he just doesn't have it in him. Mexes always plays better when he has someone better than him playing beside him. As far as the GK situation, I think that Abbiati was more than a little pissed when we took the captaincy from him. Before this year, it was usually the player with the team longest who took the band. Aye, Zapata at best seems to me the type of guy that put the foot off the pedal once they reach a target position. No worry in the world on improving and becoming better. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) At worst, he's one big liability. Remember how he was the sole reason why Barcelona netted two goals last year at home. Abbiati, never been a fan, will be honest. But he's probably of the same mold. With Dida breathing into him, he put up some good shows back then, and his howlers and mistakes were down to a manageable degree. But with three options behind him currently, all a downgrade, he is again resting on his laurels. Oh, and boy if it were Dida here making all these mistakes. Imagine fans would have torn him a new one! QUOTE (maldini03 @ Sep 26 2013, 04:51 AM) All in all, I think that the defense is in shambles, we concede far too many goals. Here's to hoping that we find a youth team gem who can command the back line. I'm with you, man. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I know there is a gem in The Scig, don't know how we can permanently play him at CB or sweeper position. Who knows he may adjust. But for that we need one or two good full backs, and once again, things overall are in shambles, not just the defense. The whole club management is in disarray. QUOTE (maldini03 @ Sep 26 2013, 04:51 AM) Also Poli is quickly becoming one of my favorite players, the guy always gives 100% and although there are times when he goes missing, I see a lot of Marchisio in him which is exciting. +∞. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Agreed, always gives his all, never complains, and a darn good footballer with the perfect attitude. He goes missing yes, and well, who doesn't these days? But his is fast becoming a favorite for me too, right next to The Scig. I just hope Saponara takes the same patch once he starts playing regularly.
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Sep 26 2013, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 25 2013, 04:54 PM) Man, it does Matri. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Sorry, couldn't help it. It's the evil retarded mind of Galliani that cooks these things up. I'd actually blame the partners in crime even more, those doofuses in the background like Braida. Even Tassoti is fast taking a leave from my good books considering how our defense is in shambles. But then again, one can argue that what we have is pretty bad to start with. See Mexes is an 8 defender, but one that makes mistakes. So he needs a 10 by his side like Silva or Nesta. What he actually has is a downright 5 in Zapata, someone who is just as good as he is bad. A nobody players. A Udinese over hyped creation, nothing else. This guy took Villareal was it to the bottom division, what more there is to say. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) So when you pair him up in the back with Mexes, instead of a 8 or 9 defense, you end up with 6 or 7. Throw in Abate who himself is quite often questionable (oh, he is), you pretty much have a non existent defense. Throw in a keeper who was never even good to begin with, nothing special truth be told, bench material. And you are going to leak goals like there is no tomorrow. And that's without even talking about coaching, training, strategy and chemistry. See, that's just one area, it's wrong from A to Z. You go further up the team in the mid and attack, and you will see the same mess. Now the small teams you mentioned above, they have one, two, three players who can play in this Milan and will bench most of the usual gang of idiots we start every week. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Other players in these teams are average, but they work in rhythm. I caught the highlights of the first round, all teams in Serie A, and many teams put up better players than Muntari, Matri, Robinho, Niang, Abbiati, Zapata, Urby and whatnot. Sure with a fit Kaka, Balotelli, Montolivo, Poli, De Jong, and friends we will win matches later in the season, but man, we have some real stinkers in the team. It's so obvious that these points you mentioned are more and more highlighted when you have an incompetent coach, but you bring in a tactically disciplined coach and you will see that all these players and their weakness can be mended to a certain point. This team with a tactically proficient coach can beat the various Torino's and the Livorno's and Bologna's of Serie A day in day out. Maybe a draw if things aren't going well on that particular day. You could make a very similar post with the same exact theme about the Inter squad and you would be 100% right, but with a strict and tactically discpilined coach like Mazzari, they will be good enough for top 3 or 4. That's what you do when you don't have the funds for a star-studded squad. IMO, these are all excuses for a horrible horrible coach. And let's not forget Galliani's sheer idiocy and Berlusconi's ever fading wits. This club will go down the toilet before it is completely overhauled from top to bottom. From players, staff and management right up to the owners. Be prepared. Tiatanic is going down.
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Sep 26 2013, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 25 2013, 06:21 PM) Birsa is naturally a left sided midfielder, he's not a trequartista. He was mostly playing on the right side. Sure it started out as a 1-2 on paper to shut the mouths of our management but as soon as the whistle blew we immediately spread out into a 3-3, and no amount of pictures could convince me otherwise as I know what I saw when I was watching that game live.
And you seriously cannot rely on pictures, especially when we were down by 2, at some points Mexes was more advanced than Matri, that's how much we lost our shape I showed pictures displayed how we went 2-2? Look Han, if you want to ignore evidence that's your call. I've actually found evidence/proof is only ever acknowledged when it backs up a person's pre-conceived notions. That's not a dig at you, we all do it. If it doesn't suit what we personally believe, we ignore it and eat dinner. As for the match tonight, Lord only knows what the hell formation we were playing half the time - another mess again. All I know is we had a pretend striker up front.
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Sep 26 2013, 04:48 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 25 2013, 10:53 PM) I've read everything you said. And no, I didn't say the defenders were perfectly fine, but they are all good players who in any other environment would not be letting in the type of goals they're letting in now. Your problem with Abate? Italy's starting, first choice, undisputed RB, who is 100% solid for his country? Mexes? One of the best and most naturally gifted defenders in the league? Yes Zapata is average at best, but that's not his fault ALLEGRI HIMSELF wanted another striker instead of a proper CB partner for Mexes. He himself wanted that lemon so now he better well make some damn well good lemonade with it! Abate really hasn't played that many games for Italy. Mexes is a very good player, on the ball. Off it, defensively, he's nothing special. Good to see you've finally come around on Zapata, because you've been telling me for a while he's more than good enough. I'm at the point where I hope Allegri does get the boot soon, because when another coach comes in, all our injuries clear up, and we're still struggling to make top 3 I'll get to see all these excuses fly around. Allegri's no great coach, but the fact us our squad just isn't good enough.
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