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Jun 2 2014, 08:39 AM
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Jun 5 2014, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 5 2014, 03:09 PM) I don't really get why they compare him to Pirlo, totally different kind of player. He's the exact same player as Modric. Identical style, identical technique. Italy have a gem in their hands. Definitely gonna become a football great, if he already isn't. QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2014, 03:51 PM) Given the current weakness of Italian players and Serie A in comparison with far stronger teams of the past, this Italy is a pale shadow of teams from years gone by. Serie A is pretty mediocre and far weaker than so many other of its peer leagues. And that's where the players are all coming from, PSG goalie aside. I think they will really struggle in this world cup. I don't mind being proven wrong, I've got well over my hatred of them re: Euro 2008 qualification. Although I will mind being proven wrong if it means I lose my bet ha (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Um, like Han said, the quality of the league has really got nothing to do here. England have the best league in the world yet their NT is pretty average currently compared to other powerhouses. I think Italy have about 14-15 very good players in there, who know each-other well. Their midfield is as good as Germany's and Spain's IMO. I honestly think you're underestimating them.
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Jun 5 2014, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 5 2014, 05:05 PM) Um, like Han said, the quality of the league has really got nothing to do here. England have the best league in the world yet their NT is pretty average currently compared to other powerhouses. Errrr no, England have the most competitive league of the big 3, not the best. Didn't you see how their clubs struggled in ALL European competitions last season? Spain, now, is the best league, thanks to having 3 titans challenging for the title and a very strong Bilbao. I've never been fond of Spain on any level but anyone calling the EPL stronger than La Liga currently, is, well, absolutely potty! And I mean that fondly of course (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE I think Italy have about 14-15 very good players in there, who know each-other well. Their midfield is as good as Germany's and Spain's IMO. I honestly think you're underestimating them. We shall see but I stand by my last 4 prediction. I think Italy are poor and it'll be reflected in their world cup.
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Jun 5 2014, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2014, 10:40 PM) Errrr no, England have the most competitive league of the big 3, not the best. Didn't you see how their clubs struggled in ALL European competitions last season? Spain, now, is the best league, thanks to having 3 titans challenging for the title and a very strong Bilbao. I've never been fond of Spain on any level but anyone calling the EPL stronger than La Liga currently, is, well, absolutely potty! And I mean that fondly of course (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) England have had an all English final in the CL, have had 2 teams winning the CL since the last 2 world cups (2006 - now), and always have at least one club representing the league in the semi finals. How is that poor? Yet in every one of those WCs the English side has just been shameful in their showings imo Spain has 2 giants and an overall poor league where the other teams struggle to stay financially afloat each year. Atletico had a massive season thanks to their coach who made them a strong unit. But this is a side who has already been picked off of its best players. And that's just 2 or 3 who are really class, the rest are all pretty average who were part of a great collective, once tha collective is picked apart they won't be that great. QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2014, 10:40 PM) We shall see but I stand by my last 4 prediction. I think Italy are poor and it'll be reflected in their world cup. Can you explain how this side is poor? This is a side that got to the Euro finals 2 years ago, did very well in the confed cup just last summer, went through their group undefeated and qualified with 2 games to spare. No they don't have the star names Brazil, Spain and Argentina have. I just don't get where that poor tag comes from. But make no mistake, Italy do their best when they're underestimated and derided by the international media, and I seriously hope everyone, especially the English think the same as you do
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Jun 5 2014, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 5 2014, 10:03 PM) England have had an all English final in the CL, have had 2 teams winning the CL since the last 2 world cups (2006 - now), and always have at least one club representing the league in the semi finals. How is that poor? If you can quote my saying the EPL is poor I'll be interested to see it. QUOTE Yet in every one of those WCs the English side has just been shameful in their showings imo
Spain has 2 giants and an overall poor league where the other teams struggle to stay financially afloat each year. Atletico had a massive season thanks to their coach who made them a strong unit. But this is a side who has already been picked off of its best players. And that's just 2 or 3 who are really class, the rest are all pretty average who were part of a great collective, once tha collective is picked apart they won't be that great. I agree, hence the league has become more competitive and the big 2 are now big 3, borderline 4. And you will have noticed I haven't got Spain as a semifinalist. QUOTE Can you explain how this side is poor?
This is a side that got to the Euro finals 2 years ago, did very well in the confed cup just last summer, went through their group undefeated and qualified with 2 games to spare. Got to the Euro finals 2 years ago? What do you mean? As for their group, it was awful. A completely hideous Czech Rep (their great teams are something of the past now) and a rather weak Denmark. Even a half decent team could have won that group with something to spare. QUOTE No they don't have the star names Brazil, Spain and Argentina have. I just don't get where that poor tag comes from. But make no mistake, Italy do their best when they're underestimated and derided by the international media, and I seriously hope everyone, especially the English think the same as you do I don't rate Spain or Argentina any more than I do Italy. But make no mistake, they'll beat England. Uruguay and Italy will go through from that group.
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Jun 5 2014, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2014, 11:11 PM) If you can quote my saying the EPL is poor I'll be interested to see it. Sorry, that poor comment on Italy was still gnawing at my mind so I wrote it there with regards to my bit on the EPL. No you didn't say it was poor, but you implied that it was going through a rough patch. My point was that during the last 2 WCs, English teams have been great in Europe but were still absolute pish (as you Scottish laddies would say) in every major tournament they played QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2014, 11:11 PM) I agree, hence the league has become more competitive and the big 2 are now big 3, borderline 4. And you will have noticed I haven't got Spain as a semifinalist. But really, during Spain's last major 3 tournament wins there were only really 2 teams in the thing, Atletico have only really emerged as a force over these past 2 seasons or so and I personally think it will end with this season as them selling their best players now will spell the end of them imo Sorry, forgot your predictions. Belgium, Brazil, and who were the other 2? QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2014, 11:11 PM) Got to the Euro finals 2 years ago? What do you mean? As for their group, it was awful. A completely hideous Czech Rep (their great teams are something of the past now) and a rather weak Denmark. Even a half decent team could have won that group with something to spare. Euro 2012 runners up was a big achievement imo, especially for a side that no one really touted as a possible challenger. And once they rolled up against Germany were completely written off. I think having a momentum in competitive tournaments is a good indication of how a side will perform imo And HEY NOW, Malta was in that group!!! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) But seriously, when are these qualifying groups really that hard? But even the biggest team sometimes still manage to flounder QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2014, 11:11 PM) I don't rate Spain or Argentina any more than I do Italy. Nah, rating Belgium a totally inexperienced side but not Spain or Argentina? I think Spain will still do seriously well, I don't think they'll win it but I can see them in the semis easily. Argentina are a toss up but the talent they have is unquestionable. QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2014, 11:11 PM) But make no mistake, they'll beat England. Uruguay and Italy will go through from that group. lol so we're arguing whether Italy are good or not, but the person who thinks they're poor predicts that they'll beat England and the person who thinks they're good predicts that they won't beat England. What a pair we make (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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