[Portman]

All the Other Leagues 2007/08 talk here!

[Jack Sparrow]

Uhm....go Al Qadissiya
....go Maccabi Haifa
....go Pathana..uhm..Panathai...uhm...AEK Athens
...go Celtic
...go Viva Kerala...

This post has been edited by Jack Sparrow: Jun 18 2007, 08:03 PM

[dst]

Viva Las Vegas! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Hmm...new boys huh? Are they any good? Or is their football only as good as ur sarcasm? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[misha]

....go Maccabi Haifa

Nice... It's my favorite team in Israel...

[kurtsimonw]

Nice... It's my favorite team in Israel...

They're now officially my least favourite. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I would support Hapoel Haifa, but they suck real bad.

Maccabi Tel Aviv it is! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[misha]

They're now officially my least favourite.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I would support Hapoel Haifa, but they suck real bad.

Maccabi Tel Aviv it is!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Nice pick. They are ours biggest rivals. Did you googled on this? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Although right now Beitar Jerusalem is the better and richer club (A billionaire bought them two years ago).

[kurtsimonw]

I put 'local derby' in on Wikipedia and found the Israel ones.

it says Hapoel Haifa is your city derby, but they suck so you'd just getting bragging rights on me all the time. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

So I picked MTA, they've had a few decent runs in Europe from what I can remember, plus it's even better that you say they're big rivals with you. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[misha]

I put 'local derby' in on Wikipedia and found the Israel ones.

it says Hapoel Haifa is your city derby, but they suck so you'd just getting bragging rights on me all the time.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

So I picked MTA, they've had a few decent runs in Europe from what I can remember, plus it's even better that you say they're big rivals with you.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Yeah, they played in the CL few years ago but were awful. When Maccabi Haifa was there we manged to win 3:0 against United and finish 3 in the group ahead of Olimpiacos. And last year we were in the 1/8 of the Uefa cup eliminatig Cska along the way. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But you can start supporting Shakhtar Donetsk cuz I'm a big Dynamo Kiev fan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Yeah, they played in the CL few years ago but were awful. When Maccabi Haifa was there we manged to win 3:0 against United and finish 3 in the group ahead of Olimpiacos. And last year we were in the 1/8 of the Uefa cup eliminatig Cska along the way. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But you can start supporting Shakhtar Donetsk cuz I'm a big Dynamo Kiev fan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I checked the league rankings. Israel have the 19th best league apparently. It's not too far off Turkey and Greece either, which shows it's on the up because those two have some pretty fiercesome teams. Let's just hope it keeps getting better. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Nah, I also like Dynamo Kiev. Mainly because of the Sheva/Rebrov thing. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 18 2007, 10:26 PM

[misha]

Nah, I also like Dynamo Kiev. Mainly because of the Sheva/Rebrov thing.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Those Were the Days... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[dst]

...because those two have some pretty fiercesome teams.

you're referring to Greece? Yeah... after all, AEK beat Milan in Athens while Liverpool didn't! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[LaPalma]

you're referring to Greece? Yeah... after all, AEK beat Milan in Athens while Liverpool didn't! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Of course they did....what a team AEK is (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Never understood why they didn't make it to the final (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) But now with their young upcoming starlet Rivaldo they'll be serious contenders for the title next year (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[Portman]

Although right now Beitar Jerusalem is the better and richer club (A billionaire bought them two years ago).

Beitar isn't a yellow and black team? I think they were the ones who came to Portugal about 7-8 years ago to play Benfica. Don't know what competition.

I think it ended 5-0 or 6-1... not sure.

[kurtsimonw]

you're referring to Greece? Yeah... after all, AEK beat Milan in Athens while Liverpool didn't! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I was referring to both Greece and Turkey and the teams they have.

Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, AEK, Besiktas, Fenerbache and Galatasary are all good teams. For the Israel league to be only a few positions below them is quite good, that's all I was implying. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[misha]

Beitar isn't a yellow and black team? I think they were the ones who came to Portugal about 7-8 years ago to play Benfica. Don't know what competition.

I think it ended 5-0 or 6-1... not sure.

Yep. They won the championship last year. Gaydamak(wiki) bought them. His son owns Portsmouth.

[Portman]

Yep. They won the championship last year. Gaydamak(wiki) bought them. His son owns Portsmouth.

I knew that Gay-damak name... Pompey. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[misha]

I knew that Gay-damak name... Pompey.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Made most of his money on some questionable diamond and weapon deals in Africa and he's wanted in France (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Made most of his money on some questionable diamond and weapon deals in Africa and he's wanted in France (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Did he change his name from Abramovic by any chance? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[misha]

Did he change his name from Abramovic by any chance?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

They hate each other, and have some sort of rivalry (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

They hate each other, and have some sort of rivalry (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

How does that not surprise me.

[Portman]

They hate each other, and have some sort of rivalry (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yeh... muppets.
Our Don Silvio has no rival. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

(IMG:http://www.cinemah.com/ipertesti/jarmushghostdog/jarmush10.jpg)

[dst]

Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, AEK, Besiktas, Fenerbache and Galatasary are all good teams. For the Israel league to be only a few positions below them is quite good, that's all I was implying.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yeah, I got that.

But the only thing that's fiercesome about Greek teams is... well there's nothing... their fans maybe!

[kurtsimonw]

Yeah, I got that.

But the only thing that's fiercesome about Greek teams is... well there's nothing... their fans maybe!

Ohhhhhhhh. I must have missed that. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Portman]

(IMG:http://www.dynamoberlin.de/images/contact/shop_map.jpg)

Can someone from the german crew (LaPalma and co) enlight me about Berliner FC Dynamo (commonly Dynamo Berlin)?

I mean... they've 10 league titles (only behind Bayern), how can't they be in Bundesliga (I know they won in RDA but even with that...) ? As from Berlin... they're the main club from the capital (fan-base) like Real Madrid or Benfica? What happened to them?

I heard they were they linked with... Stasi? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Any true in this?

Enlight me, please.

[Portman]

Still waiting for someone to answer me the question above...

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(IMG:http://ricardokirino.no.sapo.pt/blog/bwin1.png)

Anyway... NEWS FROM PORTUGAL and from our bwinLIGA (Portuguese League):

FC Porto:
-They just signed Kazmierczak, strong midfielder from Poland, that played in Boavista last season.
-After Anderson, FC Porto president said Pepe, Lucho and Quaresma [the other big guns] are staying.

Sporting Lisbon:
-Derlei, ex-Porto and ex-Benfica (was on loan from Dynamo Moscow last year but he was sh!t) is about to sign for them.
-Grimi, our Grimi (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , could be loaned to them. Reports in down here.

Benfica:
-Joe Berardo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Berardo], one of the richest people in Portugal, is trying to buy 60% (or 85%) of the club. Basically he wants to become the largest individual stockholder in the club.
-Oscar Cardozo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Cardozo], the top-scorer in Argentina Clausura League, signed a contract with Benfica. 9,1M/euros is what Newell's Old Boys get. It's a big surprise for a portuguese club to spend big. Yeah... 9 M/euros is A LOT for a portuguese club. But it seems SL Benfica wants to build a much better team for next year.

This post has been edited by Porty: Jun 21 2007, 08:17 PM

[dst]

I'm glad Benfica are setting their aims high! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Any news about Nelson? I guess he'll probably stay but has he been linked with any team?

[Portman]

Any news about Nelson? I guess he'll probably stay but has he been linked with any team?

He's staying for sure. He'll fight with Marc Zoro for the RB place next season. But he's only 24. If he wants he'll get better and better. Just needs motivation.

I don't know which team was but I heard Benfica refused an offer, about 1-2 weeks ago.

[dst]

He really amazed me when I first watched him play in 05/06 but last season it seemed like he had not gotten any better... he was injured for some time there, I just hope he tries more because I'm sure he can be great!!

[Portman]

He really amazed me when I first watched him play in 05/06 but last season it seemed like he had not gotten any better... he was injured for some time there, I just hope he tries more because I'm sure he can be great!!

Main problem is that he had no "competition" for the RB place in Benfica since last December when they sold Alcides.

So he just relaxed since then... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[LaPalma]

(IMG:http://www.dynamoberlin.de/images/contact/shop_map.jpg)

Can someone from the german crew (LaPalma and co) enlight me about Berliner FC Dynamo (commonly Dynamo Berlin)?

I mean... they've 10 league titles (only behind Bayern), how can't they be in Bundesliga (I know they won in RDA but even with that...) ? As from Berlin... they're the main club from the capital (fan-base) like Real Madrid or Benfica? What happened to them?

I heard they were they linked with... Stasi?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Any true in this?

Enlight me, please.

Well, I didn't know much about Dynamo Berlin because I'm from West Germany, but I investigated a little bit and this is what I found out:
The name Dynamo in East Germany alwasy stood for a club being sponsored by the interior ministry and the police, and Dynamo Berlin in particular was called the "Stasi Klub" by the people in Eastern Germany. The "Minister für Staatssicherheit" (Stasi) Erich Mielke was a huge fan of them and also did them one or two favours (Transfers etc.).
About their fan base. As a "Stasi Klub" the Club was very unpopular among East german football fans. After 1989 and the fall of the Berlin Wall the mssing support of the SED (Socialist Party in former East Germany) the Club went down to the forth league, and all their good players went to Clubs in West Germany (Thomas Doll, Falko Götz, Andreas Thom).

Well, that's what happened to many Clubs from Eastern Germany after 1990. They simply weren't good enough for the Bundesliga...and still aren't. Dynamo Dresden (former club of the famous Matthias Sammer) which was also supported by the Stasi will play in the 2.Bundesliga next year after they spent years in the third league.

Besides Hertha BSC Berlin (Berlin is not the "real" eastern Germany) there are only two clubs from eastern Germany in the Bundesliga next year...

[Portman]

Well, I didn't know much about Dynamo Berlin because I'm from West Germany, but I investigated a little bit and this is what I found out:
The name Dynamo in East Germany alwasy stood for a club being sponsored by the interior ministry and the police, and Dynamo Berlin in particular was called the "Stasi Klub" by the people in Eastern Germany. The "Minister für Staatssicherheit" (Stasi) Erich Mielke was a huge fan of them and also did them one or two favours (Transfers etc.).
About their fan base. As a "Stasi Klub" the Club was very unpopular among East german football fans. After 1989 and the fall of the Berlin Wall the mssing support of the SED (Socialist Party in former East Germany) the Club went down to the forth league, and all their good players went to Clubs in West Germany (Thomas Doll, Falko Götz, Andreas Thom).

Well, that's what happened to many Clubs from Eastern Germany after 1990. They simply weren't good enough for the Bundesliga...and still aren't. Dynamo Dresden (former club of the famous Matthias Sammer) which was also supported by the Stasi will play in the 2.Bundesliga next year after they spent years in the third league.

Besides Hertha BSC Berlin (Berlin is not the "real" eastern Germany) there are only two clubs from eastern Germany in the Bundesliga next year...

Many thanks. I thought they were bigger. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[dst]

They Yaya lad Barcelona are getting from Monaco is a very good player. He played great in Olympiacos and in the World Cup, maybe not so great in Monaco but he's got great potential... he's the brother of the great Kolo Touré! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Hey Porty, what about Evaristo Manú of Benfica? Is he any good? AEK want him. And Santos asked for Cirillo to got the other way...

[Portman]

Hey Porty, what about Evaristo Manú of Benfica? Is he any good? AEK want him. And Santos asked for Cirillo to got the other way...

Manu? He's a pure winger. Really fast. Good for counter-attack teams.

Reminds me a bit of Giuly. Jamaican-version, although he's portuguese. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(IMG:http://fansbenfica.bloxode.com/images/miniature/115911734033.jpg)

[Rossoneri7]

Hey Porty .. How good is Sérgio Conceição atm ? He is 33 right ?

[kurtsimonw]

Hey Porty .. How good is Sérgio Conceição atm ? He is 33 right ?

I used to love him back in his Lazio/Parma days! I'll never forget that hat-trick he scored past Germany at Euro 2000 either. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

He went to Standard Liege in 2004, won Player of the Season in 2005. Though the last I heard of him isn't very good. Apparently he spat on a player and attacked a referee, which resulted in suspension for 3 years. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

That was about a year ago, though. Not sure if he's played since, I think Porty may know more than me, even if he is playing in Belgium.

P.S. He's 32, 33 in November.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 24 2007, 10:15 PM

[Rossoneri7]

Cuz he is comin to play for a local team over here ... And I remember him a loong time ago, he was a merda wasn't he

[Portman]

Cuz he is comin to play for a local team over here ... And I remember him a loong time ago, he was a merda wasn't he

Yes. 2 years.

Everyone thought he was joining Braga this year but it seems he's going to Arabia. I dunno how good he is at the moment. He was a nice winger - a player that gives all he has. I did a nice job in Belgium until he fvcked a ref (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (Typical portuguese).

I hope everything goes fine in his Arab-adventure. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Yes. 2 years.

Everyone thought he was joining Braga this year but it seems he's going to Arabia. I dunno how good he is at the moment. He was a nice winger - a player that gives all he has. I did a nice job in Belgium until he fvcked a ref  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (Typical portuguese).

I hope everything goes fine in his Arab-adventure.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

When R7 said he was coming to play, I thought he meant for some charity match or something. But he's actually going to sign for a club over there? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Get a season ticket R7, his football is as great as his name. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

So can we say that he is of the class of Figo and Costa ?? (Not tactically, but u get my drift) ... If so, then I am definitely gonna attend more games locally this season .. Nothing better than watching class football (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Jun 24 2007, 11:07 PM

[kurtsimonw]

So can we say that he is of the class of Figo and Costa ?? (Not tactically, but u get my drift) ... If so, then I am definitely gonna attend more games locally this season .. Nothing better than watching class football (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Get me his autograph! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I used to love the Portugese NT, before 2004. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Conceicao used to play with the likes of Rui Costa, Paolo Sousa, Luis Figo, Fernando Couto. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Get me his autograph!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I used to love the Portugese NT, before 2004.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Conceicao used to play with the likes of Rui Costa, Paolo Sousa, Luis Figo, Fernando Couto. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

U want autographs ? Do u want pictures as well (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .. I know the nephew of the owner (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

U want autographs ? Do u want pictures as well  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .. I know the nephew of the owner (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I don't know if you're serious or winding me up. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

I don't know if you're serious or winding me up. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Seriouslly (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Kuwait is real small, everyone is aquianted with everyone (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Seriouslly (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Kuwait is real small, everyone is aquianted with everyone  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

That's awesome then. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Maybe you'll become Sergio's best friend. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

That's awesome then.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Maybe you'll become Sergio's best friend.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well, I don't know about that ... But I'll be sure to have a chat with him (mainly about the merda (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) .. I always wanted to be aquainted with a European player and this is my chance (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Well, I don't know about that ... But I'll be sure to have a chat with him (mainly about the merda (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) .. I always wanted to be aquainted with a European player and this is my chance (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That'd be real awesome. I've seen plenty of the Worlds best in the Premiership when they've played at Villa Park, but I've spoken to very few, mainly only Villa players, too.

To even speak to a player like him would be awesome, you'll have nothing but jealousy from me, that's for sure. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Tennie]

Now it's official: Klose to Bayern.

Miroslav Klose wechselt zum FC Bayern

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Drei Tage vor dem Trainingsauftakt zur Saison 2007/08 hat der FC Bayern seine Personalplanungen für den Angriff auf drei Titel abgeschlossen. Nach den bisher feststehenden Neuzugängen Luca Toni, Franck Ribery, Zé Roberto, Jose Ernesto Sosa, Marcell Jansen, Jan Schlaudraff und Hamit Altintop hat der Rekordmeister nun auch Nationalstürmer Miroslav Klose vom Ligakonkurrenten Werder Bremen verpflichtet.

Der 29 Jahre alte Angreifer wird an diesem Donnerstag zur sportärztlichen Untersuchung in München erwartet und wird danach einen Vierjahresvertrag bis zum 30. Juni 2011 unterzeichnen. Klose, WM-Torschützenkönig und Deutschlands Fußballer des Jahres 2006, wird bereits am Freitag, den 29. Juni, um 10 Uhr beim Trainingsstart des deutschen Rekordmeisters mit dabei sein.

„Es handelt sich dabei für beide Seiten um eine faire Lösung“, sagte Bayerns-Vorstands-Chef Karl-Heinz Rummenigge. Vorausgegangen war ein „gutes Gespräch“ zwischen den Vorständen der FC Bayern München AG, Rummenigge und Uli Hoeneß, sowie den Werder-Geschäftsführern Klaus Allofs und Manfred Müller. Über die Ablösemodalitäten des 69-maligen Nationalspielers, der ein Jahr vor Ablauf seines Vertrages von der Weser an die Isar wechselt, vereinbarten beide Parteien Stillschweigen.

Mehr dazu in Kürze hier!

[misha]

Not bad team at all. Shame we won't see them in the CL. Uefa cup (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

--------Zé Roberto----Van Bommel

Schweinsteiger---------------------Ribery

-------------Klose----------Toni

[kurtsimonw]

Not bad team at all. Shame we won't see them in the CL. Uefa cup (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I think 'not bad' is as far as it goes. They may do well in Germany, but when they're back in the CL, they'll be no better than they've been the past few years. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[dst]

I don't agree with you Kurt. This is a very good squad team they have there and if they sign a couple more next season they're going to be fully charged for the CL!

[kurtsimonw]

I don't agree with you Kurt. This is a very good squad team they have there and if they sign a couple more next season they're going to be fully charged for the CL!

We'll see. When they don't win the UEFA Cup, we can all start laughing then. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[KillerMax]

Bayern are fundamentally a strong team. They have a great board of directors and managers and if they keep their ambitions alive, soon they will win the CL. It's not like they haven't won it in 50 years... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Bayern are fundamentally a strong team. They have a great board of directors and managers and if they keep their ambitions alive, soon they will win the CL. It's not like they haven't won it in 50 years... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It's typical hype that surrounds every team when they sign one or two good players. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[KillerMax]

It's typical hype that surrounds every team when they sign one or two good players.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It certainly worked for Chelsea. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And Bayern have a much better history.

[dst]

We'll see. When they don't win the UEFA Cup, we can all start laughing then.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

What if they don't?? I couldn't care less when Milan lost it some years ago... and I bet Bayern won't care all that much too!

[kurtsimonw]

What if they don't?? I couldn't care less when Milan lost it some years ago... and I bet Bayern won't care all that much too!

Everybody wants to win it, the UEFA Cup is VERY hard to win. One poor game and you're as good as out of it, in the CL you're allowed to play poorly a few times and can still get away with it.

I hope the Milan board didn't think like that, that's very disrespectful to teams that on that level.

[misha]

Everybody wants to win it, the UEFA Cup is VERY hard to win. One poor game and you're as good as out of it, in the CL you're allowed to play poorly a few times and can still get away with it.

I hope the Milan board didn't think like that, that's very disrespectful to teams that on that level.

I don't think we were disrespectful. Back then we had a very bad season (we even lost to Hapoel Tel Aviv (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ): Some crappy players and Sheva who carried the team had a big injury.

Actually, I wanted us to win it since Uefa cup is the only european trophy Milan miss.

This post has been edited by mishale: Jun 27 2007, 01:17 AM

[kurtsimonw]

I don't think we were disrespectful. Back then we had a very bad season (we even lost to Hapoel Tel Aviv  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)   ): Some crappy players and Sheva who carried the team had a big injury.

Actually, I wanted us to win it since Uefa cup is the only european trophy Milan miss.

I was really looking to a Milan derby in the UEFA Cup Final. That would have been brilliant, we both messed it up though. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Portman]

Karagounis is not staying in Benfica. He'll be back to Italy or Greece.

[dst]

Kara! Good lad!!

I hope to see him in Serie A (Palermo maybe!?) next season! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[misha]

(IMG:http://www.sports.ru/images/object_19.1184350412.jpg)
$$$$

[kurtsimonw]

(IMG:http://www.sports.ru/images/object_19.1184350412.jpg)
$$$$

Unfortunately, it looks like he's going to be a disappointment to the US fans.

I saw an interview with Lalas earlier today, he's trying to make some of the newer fans understand that he's not what they think. Apparently, they belive he's going to bang in the goals every week and they're going to win all the time. I'm not certain some of them actually know what Beckham is, in terms of a player.

[dst]

Beckhams's 1st training session!

Alexi Lalas must be happy! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I saw an interview with Lalas earlier today, he's trying to make some of the newer fans understand that he's not what they think. Apparently, they belive he's going to bang in the goals every week and they're going to win all the time. I'm not certain some of them actually know what Beckham is, in terms of a player.

I hope this won't be the case!

[kurtsimonw]

Keeping with the MLS theme..

I managed to catch the MLS All-Star game tonight (Repeat, it was played a few days ago). I was pleasently surprised with how well they played. Celtic pretty much took their full team with a very competitive first XI.

Now I know it's all the best players from the MLS, but even so, to beat a team like Celtic is surely something? I mean, Milan played 210 minutes against Celtic and only won 1-0. The MLS also missed a penalty and had a goal disallowed, and in my opinion dominated the game, Celtic didn't have too many chances. Hopefully it's a sign that the sport's improving over there.

MLS All-Stars 2-0 Celtic

Goals from two Colombians, Angel and Toja.

On a side note, I was very pleased on a personal level. With Angel being one of the biggest fan favourites ever at the Villa it was nice to see him..
Top the voting to be selected in the first XI
Score
Be the All-Star MVP

Like I said, ON THE FIELD, he'll make a bigger impact than Becks. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jul 23 2007, 05:29 AM

[bigmacmtl]

Unfortunately, it looks like he's going to be a disappointment to the US fans.

I saw an interview with Lalas earlier today, he's trying to make some of the newer fans understand that he's not what they think. Apparently, they belive he's going to bang in the goals every week and they're going to win all the time. I'm not certain some of them actually know what Beckham is, in terms of a player.

when he does score them their spectacular but even in a lesser league than la liga or premier league i dont think he'll score more than 7-8 goals a season. and i dont think we'll see as much crossing from him because he should be played in the center of midfield so he can see more of the ball plus he'll run less.

[Portman]

Lot of rumours about Simao Sabrosa (Benfica) going to Atletico Madrid for 20M/euros + 2 players from Atletico.

Good choice. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) He prefers to play the Intertoto than in the Champions League.
Money talks, plus Atletico is full of it since they got 30M from F.Torres.

Porto lost Pepe and Anderson. Sporting Nani. Benfica probably Simao.
This is bad... really bad for the Portuguese League. 4 of the 10 best out there sold. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Porty: Jul 26 2007, 03:14 AM

[Rossoneri7]

This is bad... really bad for the Portuguese League. 4 of the 10 best out there sold.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't think so, I think the Portugese teams will come out with another Figo or Costa .. It is inevitable ... So I don't think they are in a bad situation.

[kurtsimonw]

I don't think so, I think the Portugese teams will come out with another Figo or Costa .. It is inevitable ... So I don't think they are in a bad situation.

Agreed.

The top Portugese and Dutch teams never cease to surprise, they seem to have a production line for these top young talents.

[Portman]

(IMG:http://real.saltlake.mlsnet.com/imgs/bios/photos/adu_f.jpg)

Freddy Adu is about to sign for Benfica for... 2M/euros. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

(IMG:http://real.saltlake.mlsnet.com/imgs/bios/photos/adu_f.jpg)

Freddy Adu is about to sign for Benfica for... 2M/euros.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I don't rate him highly at all, but E2m? So much for the star of the future, that's how much really bad players cost nowadays. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Milan Are Brilli...]

I don't rate him highly at all, but E2m? So much for the star of the future, that's how much really bad players cost nowadays.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think it's all Nike's fault with this guy, they hyped him up so much when he was like 14/15 I remember seeing clips on their site of him and images splashed everywhere. Probably didn't help his career that much, I thought Man United were going to sign him after his trial earlier last year though, obviously he didn't impress that much!

[Portman]

I think it's all Nike's fault with this guy, they hyped him up so much when he was like 14/15 I remember seeing clips on their site of him and images splashed everywhere. Probably didn't help his career that much, I thought Man United were going to sign him after his trial earlier last year though, obviously he didn't impress that much!

He was in a R.Madrid trial too. But they didn't sign him. But 2M/euros?! FFS, that's a bargain. Even Aubameyang would be more expensive.

Well, now it seems he's coming to Portugal. We'll see how he adapts. He's still 18 though. We'll have half-America watching the Portuguese League. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Porty: Jul 30 2007, 11:32 PM

[kurtsimonw]

We'll have half-America watching the Portuguese League.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Didn't think of that. Nice move for the Portugese league for certain.

[Tennie]

Bet Benfica will sell a jersey or two. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It'll be interesting to see how Freddy gets along and what/how much he learns at Benfica. He'll have one of the best AMs in the business to learn from: Rui Costa.

[Locke Lamora]

Just thought I'd add some Norwegian teams and jerseys:

Start in yellow vs. Fana in stripes.

This post has been edited by Locke Lamora: Aug 4 2007, 07:45 PM

[Tennie]

Well, Bayern hasn't quite had a stellar start to the season. In the German League Cup (Dfb Pokal), they had to go to penalties to beat third division Wacker Burghausen (though in a YAY for La Palma, Bochum did win their game).

[Tennie]

Tonight is the DC United - LA Galaxy game. LA's new transfer trained with the team and may make an appearance, especially since Steve McClaren will be in the audience. I'll be there too (free ticket!) sitting with the DC ultras. The stadium is sold out, so it should be an experience.

[Portman]

Tonight is the DC United - LA Galaxy game. LA's new transfer trained with the team and may make an appearance, especially since Steve McClaren will be in the audience. I'll be there too (free ticket!) sitting with the DC ultras. The stadium is sold out, so it should be an experience.

There are Ultras in America? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Evidently....but since they're giving free tickets, not a lot I guess. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Tennie]

Hard to believe, isn't it?(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) There are, though - at least by American standards. They always hold a big tailgate party before the game (food, BEER, snacks, BEER). They have banners, chants, rude songs for the other teams (along with the occasional chant of 'f*ck you ref' if there's a bad call), etc etc etc. (According to my friend, the new banner for tonight will be 'Bench it like Beckham'). They stand through the entire game and don't STOP with the chants and songs. The odd thing about the DC groups (there are two big groups and a couple of smaller ones) is that they sit at center pitch down low opposite the benches instead of behind the goalposts. I've been told that it's because it looks better on tv.

EDIT for Jack: My friend has two season tickets and the person she usually goes with is out of town, so I'm going with her. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Tennie: Aug 9 2007, 01:08 PM

[Jack Sparrow]

Kewlll....break a leg, and I don't mean Beckham's. See if you can throw a beer can at McLaren though. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) You'll probably be made a knight or something.

[Portman]

Hard to believe, isn't it?(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) There are, though - at least by American standards. They always hold a big tailgate party before the game (food, BEER, snacks, BEER). They have banners, chants, rude songs for the other teams (along with the occasional chant of 'f*ck you ref' if there's a bad call), etc etc etc. (According to my friend, the new banner for tonight will be 'Bench it like Beckham'). They stand through the entire game and don't STOP with the chants and songs. The odd thing about the DC groups (there are two big groups and a couple of smaller ones) is that they sit at center pitch down low opposite the benches instead of behind the goalposts. I've been told that it's because it looks better on tv.

EDIT for Jack: My friend has two season tickets and the person she usually goes with is out of town, so I'm going with her. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hum. OK. Nothing like the italian-standard so. There are no snacks there. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

(IMG:http://as-roma.net/news/data/upimages/rmju9394.jpg)

(Roma's CUCS in their best years: 20.000 in the curva. Now... they're gone. Just like "our" FdL.)

This post has been edited by Porty: Aug 9 2007, 01:12 PM

[Jack Sparrow]

FDL was a different story. They paid the price for being too honourable and sticking to the old guidelines. Still the Briggate aren't so bad. Maybe the choreography suffers.

[Tennie]

Kewlll....break a leg, and I don't mean Beckham's. See if you can throw a beer can at McLaren though. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) You'll probably be made a knight or something.

I might get a chance! I'll be sitting in the 6th row right behind the VIP seats. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Portman]

FDL was a different story. They paid the price for being too honourable and sticking to the old guidelines. Still the Briggate aren't so bad. Maybe the choreography suffers.

The end of FdL wasn't only by the problem with Juventus Ultras. Silvio was also a problem for them.

BRN? lol. Without FdL, Curva Sud is not half as good as it was. A shame but it's true.

[Tennie]

(Why did FdL break up anyway? I forget the story).

[Portman]

(Why did FdL break up anyway? I forget the story).

There were already some problems in the group, but it all went wrong with the Milan-Juve match. As we all know, there were some flags from Viking Milano on Curva Sud. A couple of capo's didn't agreed with showing the flags. It happend anyway. The Juventini said this action was very cowardly, because the flags were found, not stolen. But later it appears that someone from FdL got those flags from some Juventini...
Because of that incident there were some discussions about how to go on, not everyone had the same mentality anymore, etc. Discussions or not, they still decided to go to travel to Eindhoven for the CL match against PSV. After that match some FdL guys were treathend (with knives) by some Vikings (probably a Dutch section... don't know about that). That was how the FdL banner got in hands of the Vikings. There was complete chaos between in the FdL organisation because of this incident. Some blamed the group who got the Viking flags, some blamed the Juventini. Despite a long meeting, they decided to end the group...

[Viking Milano = Juventus Ultras - Milano section]
[Capo's = Leaders of the group]
But again... there were already serious problems in FdL. Even with Milan (club).

Curious how the biggest groups in Italy disbanded: FdL, CUCS (Roma), FdG (Genoa), CUCB (Napoli).

This post has been edited by Porty: Aug 9 2007, 02:35 PM

[dst]

I thought FdL was ended because they were singing racist songs and the other groups banned them somehow...

[Portman]

I thought FdL was ended because they were singing racist songs and the other groups banned them somehow...

Nop. Nothing to do with it.

FdL was a left-wing group. BRN is the right-wing (although not extreme) one in Curva Sud but it's not usual to hear or to see any racist thing in Milan Curva.

"Extreme" right-wing is in the other side of San Siro: Viking Inter. (Just like Viking Juventus)
Boys San are right-wing too but not as extreme as the Viking.

Remember Zoro-Messina in San Siro some years ago in a match vs. Inter? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[arivanjj]

Zidane may join Sydney FC against Beckham

[Tennie]

Well, I'm back from the DC -LA game. It was an interesting experience. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Good game, all things considered, even though DC missed three or four absolute sitters. It started bucketing right after the second half started and even though I was in the fifth row, it was hard to see what was going on. The loud squeals alerted me to the fact that Beckham came on -- he did have one good, bending free kick but was otherwise not much of a factor in the game.

There were a couple of new chants by the DC fans tonight:

'Landon Donovan's the p*ssy of the year' (true, this one. bad overacting on challenges that'd make even an Argentine blush).

and my personal favourite: 'We sing better than your wife does'. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Nice chants. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'm assuming the score was 0-0?

[Tennie]

Oh, oops. Score was 1-0 DC. Luciano Emilio (the MLS leading scorer) in the 27th. Abel Xavier pretty much singlehandedly stopped it from being more than that, not counting the sitters. DC dominated the game though LA did have a few decent chances.

[kurtsimonw]

Nice result.. Though LA are hardly the best of teams. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Abel Xavier! One wonders why he EVER played for Liverpool. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[Tennie]

Abel Xavier! One wonders why he EVER played for Liverpool.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

The hair, Kurt. The hair. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

The hair, Kurt. The hair.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Speaking of which..

(IMG:http://static.blogo.it/calcioblog/abel_xavier.jpg)

He truely has balls of steel to show up like that in front of thousends every week. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

P.S. I just heard on SSN that the DC-LA game last night was the 4th highest attendance in MLS history, not bad. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Aug 10 2007, 06:36 AM

[Portman]

Portuguese SuperCup: FCPorto 0-1 Sporting Lisbon

Boring match. Good goal by Izmailov (from Russia NT).

Sporting wins the SuperCup 1 week after losing a friendly to Benfica (1-0 too).

[dst]

What a screamer by Izmailov! I only watched 15 minuted of the second half and luckily enough I saw him spurt that rocket! Oh, yeah... I also saw Quaresma pass three times, all three with a back-heel... I so hate that kind of players! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Portman]

What a screamer by Izmailov! I only watched 15 minuted of the second half and luckily enough I saw him spurt that rocket! Oh, yeah... I also saw Quaresma pass three times, all three with a back-heel... I so hate that kind of players! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Quaresma didn't play on the wing today. Weird tactics by Porto coach...

I think they'll miss Pepe in the back-4 and Anderson creativity. They missed Lucho tonight but still... they should have done a lot better.

Sporting didn't play any good or so but it was enough. Moutinho (CM), Liedson (FW) and Veloso (DM) are their best players in the squad by far now.