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> Serie A - Week 30: Palermo - AC Milan, Date: 19/03/11 Time: 20:45 CET

 
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 17 2011, 07:56 PM) *
Zambrotta is still alive? And no Boateng, han??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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I forgot he was fit for this one!!! THE SHAME!!!!!

Well I want both Urby and Flamini to start, VB is a must. But Boateng is an obvious choice for me so...

Abate--Thiago--Yepes--Zambro
Van Bommel
Flamini--Boateng
Robinho
Pato--Cassano


As for Zambro, he has to start playing sometime, also we're not talking about Antonini here, Zambro has the experience to come in and deliver a professional performance, even if he's had a long lay off. Plus he has to be ready at some point, and I'd want him to get some game time under his belt, because frankly he's the one that I'd trust the most against Inter
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post Mar 17 2011, 10:49 PM
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post Mar 17 2011, 11:12 PM
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post Mar 17 2011, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 17 2011, 10:49 PM) *
34 is not a cool age for a fullback. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

He's still our best FB, and strictly speaking, when looking at the defensive qualities he brings to the table, you'll find it hard to come by a FB who matches Zambrotta in that respect, sure he's not fast anymore, can't make the overlapping runs he used to, or cross like he used to. But defensively, he's still one of the best around (excluding the obvious choices that we could never really dream about bringing in at this point ie the likes of Maicon, Alves, Cole, Evra, etc)
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post Mar 17 2011, 11:36 PM
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I think Yepes has been good and with grinta so far.
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post Mar 18 2011, 06:25 PM
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If I were Allegri I'd play like this :

Abbiati
Abate - Silva - Yepes - Emanuelson
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Gattuso - Flamini
Boateng
Pato - Cassano
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post Mar 18 2011, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 18 2011, 06:25 PM) *
If I were Allegri I'd play like this :

Abbiati
Abate - Silva - Yepes - Emanuelson
Van Bommel
Gattuso - Flamini
Boateng
Pato - Cassano

Yeah, Allegri would most likely pull out something like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

There are so many flaws with that though. The 3 DMs thing is just an issue that has held us back all season, something that Allegri can't seem to get past his little stubborn head! 2 is more then enough, 3 is major overkill and ends up killing our game entirely. Imo the long ball tactic is not Ibra's fault but the midfield's fault. Our midfield is so bad with the ball that we end up trying to bypass it with the long ball to Ibra, hoping that he'll finish something off or manage to bring in Pato and Robinho (both attackers who like the ball played to feet) into the game. Blaming it on Ibra imo is ridiculous, since it's obviously Allegri's fault for playing such a negative, uncreative midfield.

Boateng is not an AM, yes his runs into the box are priceless, but he can still do that by playing the box-to-box position from further back in midfield. Playing him there makes us lose another good player in the midfield, where atm we don't really have any quality aside from distructive players.

Urby imo is a much better mid then he is a LB, and I can't really see Allegri playing him there
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post Mar 18 2011, 07:23 PM
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The reason why Allegri plays 3 DM's is becouse wingers are more advanced, so technically he's playing quite offensive formation, but I agree with you about Boateng's position.

If we play 3 DM's there should be Pirlo playing so we have more creativity and vision in midfield.
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post Mar 18 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 18 2011, 07:23 PM) *
The reason why Allegri plays 3 DM's is becouse wingers are more advanced, so technically he's playing quite offensive formation, but I agree with you about Boateng's position.

If we play 3 DM's there should be Pirlo playing so we have more creativity and vision in midfield.

What wingers?

Pato and Robinho don't really play as wingers, also saying that it's attacking because we have 3 strikers means nothing if out team looks like this one the pitch

Defence
Midfield


Other team's 10 players


Attack

What do the attackers matter if the midfield cannot transition the ball from defense to attack and cannot bring the attackers into the game?
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post Mar 18 2011, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2011, 07:38 PM) *
What wingers?

Pato and Robinho don't really play as wingers, also saying that it's attacking because we have 3 strikers means nothing if out team looks like this one the pitch

Defence
Midfield


Other team's 10 players


Attack

What do the attackers matter if the midfield cannot transition the ball from defense to attack and cannot bring the attackers into the game?


I was talking about Wing Backs, Abate and Emanuelson in this case.
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post Mar 18 2011, 09:54 PM
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Allegri said that most probably we'll see a
Seedorf
Pato - Cassano


from the start.
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post Mar 18 2011, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 18 2011, 09:54 PM) *
Allegri said that most probably we'll see a
Seedorf
Pato - Cassano


from the start.

Stange, but if it were Flamini, Boateng and VB behind him it would be a really well balanced midfield imo. Seedorf should be able to handle it, and I guess Allegri does not want to play all his cards from the start, thus leaving Robinho as an option to come off the bench.

I'd really love to see something like this if Seedorf does in fact start

Van Bommel
Flamini--Boateng
Seedorf
Pato--Cassano


Classic midfield setup without players playing out of position, or trying to do something they cannot actually do. But I'm sure we'll see Gattuso starting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Mar 18 2011, 10:43 PM
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It was between Boateng and Seedorf for an AM role so there's like zero chance that they both start. My guess is that Allegri don't won't to risk Boateng with 90 minutes ahead of derby. Expect him to replace Seedorf around 55-60 minute.
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post Mar 19 2011, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 18 2011, 10:43 PM) *
It was between Boateng and Seedorf for an AM role so there's like zero chance that they both start. My guess is that Allegri don't won't to risk Boateng with 90 minutes ahead of derby. Expect him to replace Seedorf around 55-60 minute.

If Boateng doesn't start in that midfield 3, then Urby should get the nod. PLEASE Allegri, DO NOT subject us to another horror show of Rino, Flamini and VB in the midfield!!!!
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post Mar 19 2011, 02:18 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2011, 07:44 PM) *
There are so many flaws with that though. The 3 DMs thing is just an issue that has held us back all season, something that Allegri can't seem to get past his little stubborn head! 2 is more then enough, 3 is major overkill and ends up killing our game entirely. Imo the long ball tactic is not Ibra's fault but the midfield's fault. Our midfield is so bad with the ball that we end up trying to bypass it with the long ball to Ibra, hoping that he'll finish something off or manage to bring in Pato and Robinho (both attackers who like the ball played to feet) into the game. Blaming it on Ibra imo is ridiculous, since it's obviously Allegri's fault for playing such a negative, uncreative midfield.


Well said comrade. Allegri is the anti-football. His mentality is that of a mid-table club. Nowadays, in modern football, big clubs play with a very offensive midfield. Just look at Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Inter, Arsenal and so on. We are the only team that plays with three destructive midfielders, who have zero creativity, which leads us to rely on long balls and play a very ugly football. And if anyone should throw the "we're top table" argument, let me just say this to you: Zlatan Ibrahimovic! Without his contribution, we'd be 4th-5th spot max.

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