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Mar 13 2019, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 12 2019, 08:26 PM) We'll see. This is no longer Galliani or Mirabelli running our mercato. Leo has proven himself to be more than capable of bringing in the right quality players in With all due respect, hogwash. Last summer this entire f*cking support was verbally masturbating over all the shiny Silvas and Rodriguez' and Kessies and Hakans, Bonuccis, Biglias, Contis. And look how well that team worked out. It's all too easy to use the wisdom of hindsight to suggest the past was garbage but many of us sure as heck weren't saying it at the time! Even yours truly got caught up some of it - sure, I called Silva, and I wasn't blown away by Hakan or Biglia, or indeed Conti, but I was happy enough with Kessie and Rodriguez. Didn't know sh*t about Musacchio but you pegged him as great and pointed out he was part of Spain's second or third best defence. So let's not get sanctimonious here - and your insult at Galliani is really unfair. Sure, it crumbled to hell after 2012 (had no money, after all) but from 88 onwards he was hugely responsible for some of the best players we've ever had at this club - his signing policy helped us become the Milan we used to be. So, it's early days for Elliot and Leo, and while some of the signs are promising and I do love Piatek in particular, let's hold off judging until a year or two down the line. But hey, who am I to talk - I've begged Piatek as our best striker since Sheva and he's only been here five minutes!
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Mar 13 2019, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Mar 13 2019, 12:33 AM) With all due respect, hogwash.
Last summer this entire f*cking support was verbally masturbating over all the shiny Silvas and Rodriguez' and Kessies and Hakans, Bonuccis, Biglias, Contis. And look how well that team worked out.
It's all too easy to use the wisdom of hindsight to suggest the past was garbage but many of us sure as heck weren't saying it at the time!
Even yours truly got caught up some of it - sure, I called Silva, and I wasn't blown away by Hakan or Biglia, or indeed Conti, but I was happy enough with Kessie and Rodriguez. Didn't know sh*t about Musacchio but you pegged him as great and pointed out he was part of Spain's second or third best defence.
So let's not get sanctimonious here - and your insult at Galliani is really unfair. Sure, it crumbled to hell after 2012 (had no money, after all) but from 88 onwards he was hugely responsible for some of the best players we've ever had at this club - his signing policy helped us become the Milan we used to be.
So, it's early days for Elliot and Leo, and while some of the signs are promising and I do love Piatek in particular, let's hold off judging until a year or two down the line.
But hey, who am I to talk - I've begged Piatek as our best striker since Sheva and he's only been here five minutes! Yes, hindsight is great. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out Galliani's last decade with us was an absolute nightmare of bar decisions and shady deals. We'd been talking about how his bad choices lead to our downfall for years now. This team has been neglected under B & G since around 2007. And you can say Galliani was operating without a budget, but that is not entirely true. Look at the summer we signed Bacca as an example. Also, if he had a limited budget, I do not understand how he kept giving 4m + salaries to mediocre free agents + some seriously shady agent fees and deals with guys like Preziosi. These are not things that you can say are about hindsight. We've been blowing gaskets on here about Galliani since around 2007. As for Mirabelli. Yes, the majority of fans were overly excited, me included. But this mostly stemmed from the shear desperation after experiencing the last 10 years of Galliani. Mirabelli was basically like a man with a small bottle of water spraying it around to a bunch of people that have been stuck in a desert and were thirsty af. He went for quantity over quality, no doubt. But you can't blame people for being excited about the signings he made. Leo has so far made some great moves. Bakayoko, Higuain (lead to Piatek), Paqueta, Piatek. All great moves with half a summer window and a winter one to operate in. He's proven that he prefers to bring in 1 or 2 top notch players rather than going for 5 just good ones. We'll see what he does in the summer, but I have faith that whatever budget he has to operate within, he'll do well
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Mar 13 2019, 11:03 PM
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@Danny - Galliani and Berlusconi made this club great, of course, but there's also no denying that they led it to its downfall.
Mismanagement. They weren't able to develop the Milan brand, no new stadium, no increase in revenues, terrible decision making. Times were changing but they kept thinking like it was still the 90s. In the end, they had to sell to some shady Chinese figure who ended up being a hoax.
As for Mirabelli, yes, we were all excited. How could we not be? As Han said, after years and years of crappy signings and free agents, we were presented with an extra budget that allowed us to rebuild this team. Let's not forget that guys like Musacchio, Rodriguez, Kessie and Calhanoglu who are regulars today were signed by Mirabelli. So, I wouldn't throw away all of his work.
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Mar 14 2019, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 13 2019, 11:03 PM) @Danny - Galliani and Berlusconi made this club great, of course, but there's also no denying that they led it to its downfall.
Mismanagement. They weren't able to develop the Milan brand, no new stadium, no increase in revenues, terrible decision making. Times were changing but they kept thinking like it was still the 90s. In the end, they had to sell to some shady Chinese figure who ended up being a hoax.
As for Mirabelli, yes, we were all excited. How could we not be? As Han said, after years and years of crappy signings and free agents, we were presented with an extra budget that allowed us to rebuild this team. Let's not forget that guys like Musacchio, Rodriguez, Kessie and Calhanoglu who are regulars today were signed by Mirabelli. So, I wouldn't throw away all of his work. This as well. I criticize his signings, but some of them are now part of the backbone of this team, so they weren't all bad. He went wrong in terms of trying t overhaul the entire squad in one summer instead of bringing in more quality players at a gradual level
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Mar 17 2019, 09:29 PM
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Rino needs to shake up the team quickly.
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Mar 17 2019, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 17 2019, 11:33 PM) We're not ready yet. Ready for what? And when will be ready? In 2022?
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Mar 17 2019, 09:56 PM
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Primavera
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Strange move making Kessie a FB...
Penalty kick, great...
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