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Sep 29 2019, 11:01 PM
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I'm also sure Giampaolo won't go or be sacked. Which is yet another mistake.
The first and biggest responsibility lies on Maldini and Boban. As predicted, they did a terrible job during the summer. I a short period of a few months Fiorentina managed to advertise themselves as a ambitious "project" with good perspective and attract different kinds of players - and finally, Ribery. Milan on the other hand failed at the crucial targets (Correa, Veretout) and failed again in finding alternatives. The bad mix of players we tolerated last season and we knew reached their maximum was only weakened by the departure of players like Bakayoko or Abate (as a senator player), while Bennacer, Krunić and other such additions can and will do little in this dire position.
Giampaolo was a bad decision and they're now making it worse by prolonging the inevitable decision. By not sacking him after a row of defeats just shows you where Milan is right now. We've lost is completely, no winning mentality, no big club thinking, not even acting like a big club anymore.
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Sep 29 2019, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 29 2019, 11:01 PM) The bad mix of players we tolerated last season and we knew reached their maximum was only weakened by the departure of players like Bakayoko or Abate (as a senator player), while Bennacer, Krunić and other such additions can and will do little in this dire position. Sorry but I don't buy this. I completely agree that the team we had last season reached its absolute maximum, but to say we were weakened by the departures of Bakayoko and Abate of all people is a far reach. The likes of Hernandez, Bennacer and Leao made us stronger than last season, but it's just not enough. We needed more, starting from the coach. I too fooled myself that Giampaolo was this great maestro (maybe because I remember Sacchi praising him some years ago), but in the end he turned out exactly what everyone else expected. We needed a Mourinho, an Ancelotti, a Klopp, a Guardiola. Only a great coach can get the best out of this bunch of players, otherwise if we continue with the various Inzaghi, Montella and Giampaolo, we'll never ever go anywhere.
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Sep 30 2019, 06:19 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 30 2019, 02:01 AM) I'm also sure Giampaolo won't go or be sacked. Which is yet another mistake.
The first and biggest responsibility lies on Maldini and Boban. As predicted, they did a terrible job during the summer. I a short period of a few months Fiorentina managed to advertise themselves as a ambitious "project" with good perspective and attract different kinds of players - and finally, Ribery. Milan on the other hand failed at the crucial targets (Correa, Veretout) and failed again in finding alternatives. The bad mix of players we tolerated last season and we knew reached their maximum was only weakened by the departure of players like Bakayoko or Abate (as a senator player), while Bennacer, Krunić and other such additions can and will do little in this dire position.
Giampaolo was a bad decision and they're now making it worse by prolonging the inevitable decision. By not sacking him after a row of defeats just shows you where Milan is right now. We've lost is completely, no winning mentality, no big club thinking, not even acting like a big club anymore. Yes sir, Maldini and Boban were legends on the pitch, but as directors they did a piss poor job. The coach, the team and the philosophy on the pitch was down to the directors. There is a lot of room for improvement, but not enough time or tolerance at Milan. These guys need to exit Milan as soon as possible. The sooner they hand in their resignations the better. I like to remember the days they played for the club, not the days they made bad decisions on behalf of the club. Such bullshit.
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Sep 30 2019, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 30 2019, 01:33 AM) Sorry but I don't buy this. I completely agree that the team we had last season reached its absolute maximum, but to say we were weakened by the departures of Bakayoko and Abate of all people is a far reach.
The likes of Hernandez, Bennacer and Leao made us stronger than last season, but it's just not enough. We needed more, starting from the coach. I too fooled myself that Giampaolo was this great maestro (maybe because I remember Sacchi praising him some years ago), but in the end he turned out exactly what everyone else expected.
We needed a Mourinho, an Ancelotti, a Klopp, a Guardiola. Only a great coach can get the best out of this bunch of players, otherwise if we continue with the various Inzaghi, Montella and Giampaolo, we'll never ever go anywhere. Abate I said why. Not because of his contribution (which was great, even as CB) but because he was the last player in a locker room who had experience playing with WC players and who won us a scudetto. We lack that kind of experience right now very much. Bakayoko was problematic to say at least because of his behavior and stupidity, but all in all he was a crucial player - no one else knows to takle and intercept passes like him in our team and he provided the needed stability in our system Kessie was unable to do. For the last time, Hernandez, Benacer and Leao are good buys at best but in a dire position of limited quality and restrained resources these three additions add up to nothing because they haven't got the experience nor the posture to become more relevant in terms of our team. Case in point yesterday - when Bennacer played a absolutely horrible game from minute one and Hernandez looked like a faster Rodriguez twin. Few weeks and they just blended in. And that's normal for youngsters who played for Empoli or Sociedad before to do. What we needed much more is a Ribery character in our team, someone who has the prestige and status to turn the mentality around, not adding more inexperience and more question marks to an already overloaded baby team with zero ambition. Mentioning Mourinho, Carletto and Guardiola is a pipe dream. Not a single one of them would ruin their run (maybe Carletto) to come to Milan. We need to make a reality check. Bringing in Spalletti or even Ranieri would be a huge improvement and our absolute maximum at this point. Reading the news of today just confirms what we already know - names being mentioned: Rudi Garcia, Claudio Ranieri and Andriy Schevchenko. QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 30 2019, 08:19 AM) Yes sir, Maldini and Boban were legends on the pitch, but as directors they did a piss poor job. The coach, the team and the philosophy on the pitch was down to the directors.
There is a lot of room for improvement, but not enough time or tolerance at Milan. These guys need to exit Milan as soon as possible.
The sooner they hand in their resignations the better. I like to remember the days they played for the club, not the days they made bad decisions on behalf of the club.
Such bullshit. I don't think they necessarily have to be sacrificed. Switching Leonardo with Boban was a big mistake. Gazidis is also IMO very much responsible. IMO we should keep Maldini and Boban because they are both inexperienced and deserve a second chance under the conditions they work. What we need is another person with more experience. If only we could get Braida for that part.
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Sep 30 2019, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 30 2019, 01:33 AM) The likes of Hernandez, Bennacer and Leao made us stronger than last season, but it's just not enough. We needed more, starting from the coach. I too fooled myself that Giampaolo was this great maestro (maybe because I remember Sacchi praising him some years ago), but in the end he turned out exactly what everyone else expected. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore Arrigo Sacchi. He is my number 1 coach. But haven't you noticed that usually all his media comments turn out the exact opposite of what he said/advocated? He's a terrible pundit.
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Sep 30 2019, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 30 2019, 09:29 AM) Abate I said why. Not because of his contribution (which was great, even as CB) but because he was the last player in a locker room who had experience playing with WC players and who won us a scudetto. We lack that kind of experience right now very much.
Bakayoko was problematic to say at least because of his behavior and stupidity, but all in all he was a crucial player - no one else knows to takle and intercept passes like him in our team and he provided the needed stability in our system Kessie was unable to do.
For the last time, Hernandez, Benacer and Leao are good buys at best but in a dire position of limited quality and restrained resources these three additions add up to nothing because they haven't got the experience nor the posture to become more relevant in terms of our team. Case in point yesterday - when Bennacer played a absolutely horrible game from minute one and Hernandez looked like a faster Rodriguez twin. Few weeks and they just blended in. And that's normal for youngsters who played for Empoli or Sociedad before to do. What we needed much more is a Ribery character in our team, someone who has the prestige and status to turn the mentality around, not adding more inexperience and more question marks to an already overloaded baby team with zero ambition.
Mentioning Mourinho, Carletto and Guardiola is a pipe dream. Not a single one of them would ruin their run (maybe Carletto) to come to Milan. We need to make a reality check. Bringing in Spalletti or even Ranieri would be a huge improvement and our absolute maximum at this point.
Reading the news of today just confirms what we already know - names being mentioned: Rudi Garcia, Claudio Ranieri and Andriy Schevchenko.
I don't think they necessarily have to be sacrificed. Switching Leonardo with Boban was a big mistake. Gazidis is also IMO very much responsible. IMO we should keep Maldini and Boban because they are both inexperienced and deserve a second chance under the conditions they work. What we need is another person with more experience. If only we could get Braida for that part. Everyone is horrible right now, no-one can save themselves. Even Donnarumma who saved the penalty last night was responsibile against Torino. Bennacer and Hernandez are just part of the herd at this point. They're good players, but they're not Pirlo and Serginho who can make the difference.
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Sep 30 2019, 11:47 AM
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Yes, and this is the thing. Last season we had many deficiencies. We had two possible solution: either start from scratch and build a new team with 5-6 new starters in and many of last years starters sold or try to patch up the most urgent deficiencies. We decided for the patch-work, mostly because of financial restraints. But then we needed to bring in difference makers, at least one. And not more babies.
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Sep 30 2019, 01:59 PM
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I think this season is already down the drain. What's there to salvage? Again get 5th or 6th spot and then forfeit once again? Meh, ridiculous.
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Sep 30 2019, 02:21 PM
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Won't happen. All mentioned bar Atalanta are much better then we are at this point.
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Oct 1 2019, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 30 2019, 05:56 PM) So we fire Gazidis and keep Maldini and Boban?
Don't think Braida would be enough my friend.
On our chances for CL... Please let us stick to where the club is at right now, hovering above the relegation zone. EL seems a decent target, if the team manages to climb out of their arses and administer a comeback that is.
Before the season started I was convinced we'd be challenging. But now I'm convinced the club has no structure, just names (Maldini, Boban), a history almost covered in a foot of dust and an inclination to prove that the Galliani management was far superior (yes even in the dying years).
Oh how times have changed, this club used to be respected by its own players before its opponents. Nowadays the opponents respects the club before its players. Such a shame it has come down to this. No, that was not what I meant. But out of the three Gazidis is the one with experience and he's the expensive acquisition. And right now his rule of signing youngsters and talents isn't exactly helping, especially in Serie A. Why would anyone be motivated to target EL after this seasons decision to forfeit our spot? The same will probably happen next year as well. Oh and don't get me even started on how superior the Galliani management was. Don't you see that this is exactly how we got here in the first place? Sorry, Milan becoming the club of today must be one of the biggest falls in football history for sure. In the last 20 years, perhaps even more.
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