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Great post whoarethepatriots I agree totally !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 1 2009, 11:32 AM) *
Maybe we should hire a brazilian doctor as well? Just to avoid the doctor excuse?

How about Socrates? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 2 2009, 06:55 AM
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post Mar 2 2009, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 1 2009, 05:15 PM) *
Note my sarcasm. We are an Italian Serie A team, not the Brazilian national team. Saying we accomplish nothing with non Brazilians is spitting in the face of everyone at the club and the glory they have bought us.

Would Kaka be as effective as he is without Gattuso Ambrosini and Seedorf to cover him and track back. Would Pato score goals like he does without service? Who assisted his first goal at the club and his most recent? A non Brazilian, an Italian actually by the name of Guiseppe Favalli.

By the Brazilian rationale, should Emerson and Dida be made instant first teamers because of their heritage? Being Brazilian does not automatically make you a superior player


Well i'm sorry but it seems thats what its like when we dont have brazillians on. Besides for the list of players you noted, I can list a non italian that is much better then them. Why does it matter if the player is italian or not. As long as he is good and can help the team win then who cares if hes chinese or from antarctica. Milan are a top club so we should not settle for anything less than the world's elite! I dont get why europeans are so keen on keeping football to their own country. I mean i'm from canada and this sort of talk would never be accepted and would be labeled as labor discrimination.

I never said brazillians are better but we play like sh*t when they are not playing. This team is so dependent on Kaka that as soon as he gets injured our quality as a team just nose dives.

I"m stating what is reality patriots. This team without its' brazillians plays like a mid table serie A team.

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post Mar 2 2009, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 1 2009, 06:15 PM) *
So the following players are useless then

(IMG:http://www.footballitaliano.co.uk/images/articles/pirlo.jpg)

Pirlo is overrated anyway. I mean who benefits from his range of passing. Emerson's square and backwards passing is all we need

(IMG:http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00000/gattuso_892a.jpg)

I suppose we dont really need Gattuso. As long as we can score more than them then what is the need for defensive mid fielders. Who needs balance anyway?

(IMG:http://i.media.goal.com/g/19828_news.jpg)

Ambrosini, now where do i begin. I mean what decisive goals has he ever scored?

(IMG:http://images.quickblogcast.com/92912-88346/maldini2.jpg)

Maldini, he is a good looking lad no doubt, but i mean what is the point of having a player who dosent score goals or create them. Its not like we need someone to prevent goals being scored

(IMG:http://funwebtest.epfl.ch/site0607/Emma%20Betti/images/Nesta3.jpg)

Nesta? It dosent ring a bell. What position does he play?


Note my sarcasm. We are an Italian Serie A team, not the Brazilian national team. Saying we accomplish nothing with non Brazilians is spitting in the face of everyone at the club and the glory they have bought us.

Would Kaka be as effective as he is without Gattuso Ambrosini and Seedorf to cover him and track back. Would Pato score goals like he does without service? Who assisted his first goal at the club and his most recent? A non Brazilian, an Italian actually by the name of Guiseppe Favalli.

By the Brazilian rationale, should Emerson and Dida be made instant first teamers because of their heritage? Being Brazilian does not automatically make you a superior player

marry me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Mar 2 2009, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Mar 2 2009, 12:22 AM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) damn french canadians, always gotta ruin the day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 2 2009, 08:14 AM
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LOL!!!that would apply were i not an italo-slovenian (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 2 2009, 01:19 AM) *
I never said brazillians are better but we play like sh*t when they are not playing.


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This team without its' brazillians plays like a mid table serie A team.


These statements would seem to indicate that you think the non-Brazilians who play for Milan aren't too terribly good. Is that in fact the case?
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post Mar 2 2009, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 2 2009, 06:19 AM) *
Well i'm sorry but it seems thats what its like when we dont have brazillians on. Besides for the list of players you noted, I can list a non italian that is much better then them. Why does it matter if the player is italian or not. As long as he is good and can help the team win then who cares if hes chinese or from antarctica. Milan are a top club so we should not settle for anything less than the world's elite! I dont get why europeans are so keen on keeping football to their own country. I mean i'm from canada and this sort of talk would never be accepted and would be labeled as labor discrimination.

I never said brazillians are better but we play like sh*t when they are not playing. This team is so dependent on Kaka that as soon as he gets injured our quality as a team just nose dives.

I"m stating what is reality patriots. This team without its' brazillians plays like a mid table serie A team.


This isnt about being Italian, its about the arrogant belief in the Brazilians superiority. Yes the Brazilians (Pato and Kaka anyway) help us immensely but if we only played those two alone would they win us matches?

We are a top club and also multicultural as seen by our fairly diverse set of players, but this is also an Italian club and we need to respect that

You are sending me mixed singals about the second paragraph. Yes we are dependant on Kaka, but Inter are dependent on Ibra does that mean Swedish players are superior to everyone else.

We play poor when Kaka and Pato are not there because they are without a doubt the current stars of the team. Take out Mutu and Gila and are Fiorentina as good?
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post Mar 2 2009, 02:02 PM
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Not sure of this Brazilian love-fest.

Their defenders are great going forward.. but can't defend.
Their midfielders attack well.. but can't tackle.
Their strikers are great.. what's defending?
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Tuttomercatoweb is reporting that there was a 4 hour crisis meeting of Milan's leadership at Via Turati today. No statements were made by the directors as they left the building. The article indicates that Ancelotti is safe until the end of the season.
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post Mar 2 2009, 03:59 PM
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I don't think dismissing Ancelotti in the middle of the season is even an option right now, which is fair enough.

I want him gone, but of course not right now. it'll just worsen the situation. but I hope as soon as the season ends, a new coach is brought in so he has enough time to get to know the team, prepare them the way he knows, etc.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 2 2009, 04:32 PM) *
Their strikers are great.. what's defending?

Are strikers supposed to defend?
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post Mar 2 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 2 2009, 07:19 AM) *
Well i'm sorry but it seems thats what its like when we dont have brazillians on. Besides for the list of players you noted, I can list a non italian that is much better then them. Why does it matter if the player is italian or not. As long as he is good and can help the team win then who cares if hes chinese or from antarctica. Milan are a top club so we should not settle for anything less than the world's elite! I dont get why europeans are so keen on keeping football to their own country. I mean i'm from canada and this sort of talk would never be accepted and would be labeled as labor discrimination.

I never said brazillians are better but we play like sh*t when they are not playing. This team is so dependent on Kaka that as soon as he gets injured our quality as a team just nose dives.

I"m stating what is reality patriots. This team without its' brazillians plays like a mid table serie A team.

You know...there's something called identity. Milan's first identity is being an Italian team. that's the very reason for the separation from Inter. We shouldn't forget that.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Mar 2 2009, 03:59 PM) *
I don't think dismissing Ancelotti in the middle of the season is even an option right now, which is fair enough.

I want him gone, but of course not right now. it'll just worsen the situation. but I hope as soon as the season ends, a new coach is brought in so he has enough time to get to know the team, prepare them the way he knows, etc.


Are strikers supposed to defend?

Of course they are. In today's football no one has the privilege not to defend. The striker are the first players who can set the opposing team under pressure. That's very important.
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QUOTE (LaPalma @ Mar 2 2009, 06:58 PM) *
Of course they are. In today's football no one has the privilege not to defend. The striker are the first players who can set the opposing team under pressure. That's very important.


Well, Pato is Brazilian and I've seen him running after the ball and putting the opponent under pressure to pass the ball. so I don't happen to agree with Kurt in this particular case.

I think strikers should focus on their own job, and if they succeeded, they can help in defending too. especially in a team like Milan where most of players are defenders or deep lying/defensive midfielders.
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Mar 2 2009, 04:44 PM) *
Well, Pato is Brazilian and I've seen him running after the ball and putting the opponent under pressure to pass the ball. so I don't happen to agree with Kurt in this particular case.

I think strikers should focus on their own job, and if they succeeded, they can help in defending too. especially in a team like Milan where most of players are defenders or deep lying/defensive midfielders.

Never said he can't do it. IMO it's very important too. If you put an opponent under pressure you force him to make mistakes.
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