Rossi is as much Italian as he is American, his father is Italian. So I don't see how that makes him any less Italian and more American.

There's that anti Rino bias coming into play again. Rino is more of a footballer then that American team combined. And please tell me which American player has that style and ability that Rossi does? That's all Italian. And I wasn't really pointing to how he plays his football but the talent he has. There are many Italian players that are considered great but are not the best to watch, Rino, Ambro, Pippo all players who are not the most sylish around, but they're great at what they do.

EDIT: Moved to Rnadom Stuff Thread - Off Topic here.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 16 2009, 12:27 PM

^^^

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Going OT is not a crime! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I think this would work fine:

Flamini - Gattuso
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Pato - Box Guy

I'll leave the hijacking to the pro's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

"When I was younger Bruce Arena wanted me with him for the USA squad at the World Cup. However, my dream was Italy and I wanted to fulfill that and do more," Rossi told La Gazzetta Dello Sport.

sounds like an american thing to say.

the only thing american about him is that he was born there and lived there for half his life.

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The only English thing about me was I was born here and lived here as well.

Clearly this is getting silly. We're starting off from a different base and there's no meeting place.

The thing is Rossi made his choice. You cannot call him an American because it's his own choice. The same way, had he chosen the American nationality I would not be able to call him an Italian just because I think he's Italian in blood.

you see from your prespective that might sound funny but theres many things to consider when we identify ourselves. your opinion is so bias cuz your completly ignoring all the glaring factors, ur looking at one thing where: your born.

That does not really reflect on what nationality someone is. I could have been born in Zimbabwe and lived there until I was 90 years old, but the fact of the matter remains that my mother and father are Maltese. Therefore I am Maltese.

In Malta we've got 100's upon 100s of Illegal immegrants coming ashore each year. Most of the women are pregnant and give berth here. But that does not make those children Maltese by any strecth of the imagination. This is an extreme case I'm mentioning but I'm using it to give you an idea.

Many children these days have dual citizenships because they're born in different countries, because people travel around a lot, it's dual because no one can deny their heritage, no matter in which country you're born.

Rossi has an Italian father, he has an Italian name (first and last). Italy is part of him, he has the right to choose which team to play for because he's both American and Italian.

By your definition, if I was born on a plane or on a ship, therefore my nationality should be the RSS Titanic or whatever. It just does not make any sense

I'll just pick up on a few things since you already know my opinion on the rest.

Illegal immigrants: I dare you to come to England and tell the countless amounts of illegal immigrants that they're not English. These people weren't born here, neither were their parents, but they consider themselves English.. in your opinion, surely this is okay though, since people get to chose where they're from?

Immigrant children: You're contradicting yourself here. Even though they're born here and live here, or in Malta in your example, they're not Maltese at all? But you said the individual should chose?

Names: The only reason he has an Italian name is because of his dad. I have some American family and some American friends.. I can't think of one that has an American name, despite the fact they and their parents were ll born there.. are they not American then? Just to add on from this. Let's say Rossi's dads grandparents were English and called Smith, this would result in Rossi's father being named Smith and in turn, Rossi would be called Smith. Would this make him English, even though his parents are Italian and he was born in America?

Dual citzenship: But it's also dual because no-one can deny where they're born too. I just think it seems silly saying where some other person is born is more important than where you're born.

Plane/ship births: You are from the country you took off from, you remain 'in' that country until you go through passport control at your destination.

FInal thought: What if your grandparents found out they weren't born in Malta (i have no idea where they were born, obviously), like I said to Habitant, this would make your parents none-Maltese right? Since there parents were born elsewhere, then this would make you a none-Maltese.. would you just consider yourself something else, just over something as trivial as that?

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 17 2009, 03:41 AM

This is a pointless argument. Why don't you all agree that you can be Indians. With a population of 1 billion, a few tens more won't make a difference. You can all crash at my place as well.

You can wear dhotis and kurtas and saris.

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LOL, landon donavan has never been the US's best player.

Clent Demsey
Freddy Adu
Jose Altidore

much better players than donavan. just because someone is the face of the team doesn't mean he's our best player.




but i thought you said no American can play like that?

LOFL. That was dope jack!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Freddy Adu better than Donovan? The same guy who has one goal in twelve appearances? Surely you jest.

(Oh, and the spelling of all the above players' names has been corrected.)