[Zed.D]

Now that's the catch ainnit?

I don't think your friend Mooney said something along the lines of , 'Oh I beg your pardon good sir, but I must insist you take that last statement back!'. In fact he probably went along the lines of what his surname seems to suggest.

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[kurtsimonw]

Now that's the catch ainnit?

I don't think your friend Mooney said something along the lines of , 'Oh I beg your pardon good sir, but I must insist you take that last statement back!'. In fact he probably went along the lines of what his surname seems to suggest.

I agree he most certainly didn't say anything polite to the ref, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't either if my goals were disallowed due to my nationality. Mooney is far from 'my friend' either, I'd disallow all of his goals just for being him.

Perhaps they don't go abroad because they aren't good enough? Saying they don't go because of the treatment one player received in one game doesn't necessarily mean anything IMO.

I think you'd be surprised at how big a factor nationality is. I also disagree with the 'good enough' claim, I hardly think Rooney plays in England because he isn't good enough to play for Malaga.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Feb 24 2010, 08:11 PM

[Jack Sparrow]

I think you'd be surprised at how big a factor nationality is. I also disagree with the 'good enough' claim, I hardly think Rooney plays in England because he isn't good enough to play for Malaga.

That's a weird argument. Doesn't make much sense...if you bring the best players into it. I could conversely argue Zidane never played in England therefore none of the clubs in England are good enough for Zidane.

[kurtsimonw]

That's a weird argument. Doesn't make much sense...if you bring the best players into it. I could conversely argue Zidane never played in England therefore none of the clubs in England are good enough for Zidane.

It's not my arguement, it's what I_Ross was suggesting. I think it's ridiculous, hencemy Rooney-Malaga comment.

[Jack Sparrow]

Well maybe they're not good enough could be replaced by they're not suited to.

Pennant sucks @$$ in Spain, yet he was considered average-above average in England. Sheva was God in Italy, yet he flopped miserably in England.

Santiago Munez needed asthma treatments and lots of gym work before he could even complete 90 minutes for Newcastle. He was so good in fact that they sold him to Madrid along with Gavin Harris.


Secondly, you claimed you would badmouth the ref if your goals were disallowed due to nationality....which is implying that the Spaniard never gets a goal disallowed in the La Liga. Not true.

The ref says (allegedly) "You English, all you do is foul!"...which means the goal was disallowed coz he fouled and not coz he was English. And considering the amount of English a Spaniard (or Spanish an Englishman) would know a, I can probably imagine that when he said, "You English", he meant "You Englishman".

Besides from your opinion on Mooney, I don't think he's the type whose jersey is pristine clean when he comes off the field.

Lastly, Owen and BEcks...two players who didn't have any problems with the refs in England.

[kurtsimonw]

Becks had problems wioth refs in Spain. I think the refs are the main reason to be honest, but not because they dislike a particular nationality. It's always why I don't think England will win the World Cup in my life time, we're allowed to get away with more in terms of physicality over here than we would elsewhere.

[Zed.D]

The ref says (allegedly) "You English, all you do is foul!"...which means the goal was disallowed coz he fouled and not coz he was English. And considering the amount of English a Spaniard (or Spanish an Englishman) would know a, I can probably imagine that when he said, "You English", he meant "You Englishman".

Exactly what I thought.
It's "you [or 'hey'] Englishman! all you do is foul". I can imagine it being said in a friendly way even.

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[kurtsimonw]

Anybody know what the deal is with Juve's attendances? I was looking at some attendance figues and such and I noticed they have a lower average attendance than sha and Hull!? There's some commentary on FIFA10 that suggests the reason the fans don't go is because the stadium is horrible or something, but I just can't see that being the reason. Anyone know why? Just over 20k average is horrible for a regular CL team.

[Jack Sparrow]

Their performance for one. Second, they're not playing at their old stadium. It's some temporary arrangement till the new one comes up.

[kurtsimonw]

Their performance for one. Second, they're not playing at their old stadium. It's some temporary arrangement till the new one comes up.

Ah that makes sense. Though their poor attendance figures seem to go back a few years, even when they were in the SDA and winning titles.

[Locke Lamora]

Juventus aren't the "team" of Turin. That's Torino. Juve have more supporters in the south of Italy, I think they actually had more fans at Palermo-Juventus than Juventus-Palermo this season, or something like that.

[Fishdoll]

The Olimpico in Turin is a small stadium and seats...prolly not more than 30k tops anyway. And, well, what Jack said. They've got more fans outside Turin than inside.

[Locke Lamora]

The Olimpico in Turin is a small stadium and seats...prolly not more than 30k tops anyway. And, well, what Jack said. They've got more fans outside Turin than inside.

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[Fishdoll]

Oops? I'm a hungover fish, sorry Locke! Went out nightclubbing last night and only had time for a nap in my bowl before the game!

[Jack Sparrow]

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