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Jun 18 2007, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE Real make Tevez contactReal Madrid have been in contact about West Ham United striker Carlos Tevez, according to the Argentine's agent.Tevez's future at Upton Park remains unclear following the row which landed The Hammers with a £5.5million fine and saw Sheffield United contest the punishment. During the closing weeks of the season, Tevez was instrumental in keeping West Ham in the Premier League, but has yet to commit his future to the club. He recently admitted it was 'time to join a big club', with Serie A champions Internazionale declaring an interest. Newly-crowned Spanish champions Real have also been strongly linked with a £30million bid for the former Corinthians star. Tevez's agent Adrian Ruocco has confirmed the interest from Real, but is refusing to rule out the possibility of the fans' hero staying at Upton Park. "There's been contact with Real Madrid," Ruocco told the Sun. "We've been patient, but if Real don't make a concrete offer then Carlos has a lot of options. "He has offers from Europe's biggest clubs. "But there's no need to rule out anything, including staying at West Ham where he is settled and wanted." skysports I wish them total failure!! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 18 2007, 07:22 PM
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(IMG: http://www.armeniatv.am/images/premiere.gif) The big questions of this Summer @ La Liga: -Who will Madrid buy with their 100M to spend? A big name coming up? - Barcelona need changes. They'll be active in this market. - Valencia... selling one of their stars after this year's failure? David Villa, Joaquin, Vicente, Miguel, D.Silva? - Sevilla... can they keep Daniel Alves? - Atletico ... Fernando Torres's future after another season without Europe?
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Jun 18 2007, 07:28 PM
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Quick question: Didn't Atletico make the final UEFA Cup spot this year? If so, isn't Torres more likely to stay?
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Jun 18 2007, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 18 2007, 09:30 PM) With a better team (overall) than Sevilla finish 4th... they should be fighting for the title with Madrid and Catalonia. Too many injuries too during the season. I meant that, considering their bad luck, it wasn't such a bad season... and 3rd place wouldn't have made much of a difference.
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Jun 18 2007, 07:46 PM
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This one's a bit surprising. [Despite his hero status from last night's game against Majorca, Jose Antonio Reyes is ready to transfer to Atletico Madrid. According to 'Radio Marca' Reyes has no intention of returning to England, Madrid don't want to sign him permanently, and he's inclined to accept a move to Atletico in order to remain in Spain.] linkAtletico Madrid In arrivo Reyes 19:42 del 18 giugno Nonostante sia stato il protagonista della rimonta sul Maiorca, che ha permesso al Real Madrid di vincere il titolo, Josè Antonio Reyes è pronto a passare all'Atletico Madrid. Secondo 'Radio Marca' Reyes, non ha intenzione di tornare in Inghilterra, il Real Madrid non sembra volerlo riscattare e, lui pur di restare in Spagna, è disposto ad andare con i colchoneros.
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Jun 18 2007, 07:48 PM
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Hmmm Aguero, Torres and Reyes???
Unless Torres is being unloaded. Atletico still needs mid-fielders and defenders though.
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Jun 18 2007, 07:50 PM
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Reyes also plays as striker Portyboy....which could mean a move on the cards for Torres.
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Jun 18 2007, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 18 2007, 09:49 PM) They want to make him suffer for handing Real the title!
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Jun 18 2007, 07:55 PM
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Ok..yeah not exactly ur upfront targetman is Reyes. I don't particularly think too highly of him in the wings. His crossing is a little suspect.
But if Torres moves, I suppose Liverpool is the only option.
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Jun 18 2007, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 18 2007, 07:48 PM) Hmmm Aguero, Torres and Reyes??? Unless Torres is being unloaded. Atletico still needs mid-fielders and defenders though. Didn't they already sign Raul Garcia of Osasuna? Really like that guy. He's the playmaker they need desperately. Barcelona need a ball winning midfielder. They have a lot of creative players, but they lack someone like Rhino who can't play football ball has balls. Real....well they're going to spend big. That's certain.Maybe they'll renew their interrest in Cristiano R., Fabregas....some young star. I don't think Valencia will let any stars go, especially Villa.
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Jun 18 2007, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 18 2007, 07:03 PM) I don't think Valencia will let any stars go, especially Villa. Agreed. They've had quite a disappointing season, they were always that little bit of the pace of the top 3. But I think alot of their players would rather stay where they are, with a chance of winning the league next season. About Athletico. The three UEFA Cup spots go to 5th, 6th and Copa Del Rey winner. 5th and 6th have been decided, let's just say Sevilla beat Getafe. Is it the same as FA Cup where the runner up gets the spot if the winner is in Europe. Or like the Carling Cup where if the winner is already in Europe it goes to 7th in the league?
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Jun 18 2007, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2007, 09:45 PM) Agreed. They've had quite a disappointing season, they were always that little bit of the pace of the top 3. But I think alot of their players would rather stay where they are, with a chance of winning the league next season. About Athletico. The three UEFA Cup spots go to 5th, 6th and Copa Del Rey winner. 5th and 6th have been decided, let's just say Sevilla beat Getafe. Is it the same as FA Cup where the runner up gets the spot if the winner is in Europe. Or like the Carling Cup where if the winner is already in Europe it goes to 7th in the league? The spot will go to Getafe. It doesn't matter if they win it or loose it. If Sevilla wins, they'll take the spot, as you said, because Sevilla already qualified for the CL....and if Getafe wins...well they're of course in the UEFA Cup.
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Jun 19 2007, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2007, 10:11 PM) Thanks to Don Schuster who humiliated Barcelona. Anyway, reports are suggesting Calderon will fire Capello and make Schuster reals new coach. IMO a bad decision. Firing the guy that led them to their first title in years...phhhh. Schuster is good but he has to build up the squad again. That can't be good for their success IMO.
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Jun 19 2007, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 19 2007, 02:24 PM) Madrid needs a ofensive coach. With likes of Robinho, Nistelrooy, HiguaÃn, Raúl, Guti, Reyes, possibly more ofensive players, they shouldn't play so defensively like Capello like. I know Capello is strict and it's important for them but again... they need a ofensive coach. I think Schuster-thing is more than a done deal.Yeah .. Sadly though Don Fabio wont stay on, cuz Calderon is a stupid m2ther f0cker !!! I mean, Capello is one of (if not..) the best coaches that have ever commanded a team. His triumph (post Saachi) with Milan, was one of the best moments in Milan's history. Everywhere he went, he brought success. Roma too (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Schuster (If I am to take LaPalma's idea..) will need to build a team, unlike Don Fabio, he will need at least 2 years till Madrid see another title. Cuz buying players isn't everything, the Galacticos era proved that (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jun 22 2007, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 19 2007, 02:05 PM) Yeah .. Sadly though Don Fabio wont stay on, cuz Calderon is a stupid m2ther f0cker !!! I mean, Capello is one of (if not..) the best coaches that have ever commanded a team. His triumph (post Saachi) with Milan, was one of the best moments in Milan's history. Everywhere he went, he brought success. Roma too (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Schuster (If I am to take LaPalma's idea..) will need to build a team, unlike Don Fabio, he will need at least 2 years till Madrid see another title. Cuz buying players isn't everything, the Galacticos era proved that (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE Should Fabio Capello leave the newly crowned La Liga champions - as is expected now - and Schuster take over, then it is clear the new boss will look to bring in some of his own players in order to prepare for their title defence next season.
One name being mentioned is that of 33 year old Bayer Leverkusen midfielder Bernd Schneider. The Bayer captain had a good World Cup with Germany, and has just had another fantastic season in the Bundesliga.
According to Bayer Leverkusen Sports director Rudi Völler: “Schneider had a great second half to the season. For me he was the Player of the Year.â€
He is a hard working right sided, who can provide a steady supply of quality crosses with both feet, and also double up as a full back if need be, and representative of the philosophy Schuster would want to impose on the club.
He lined up against Real Madrid in the 2002 Champions League final - won by that magical Zidane goal - and had admitted he will listen to an offer from Los Merengues.
“I have heard of Madrid’s interest and if they want me then I would have to listen,†he is quoted as saying in ‘Express'.
Bernd Schuster himself is on record as saying “Real Madrid are missing a player like him at the moment.â€
If Schneider does indeed make the move to the Bernabeu, he would follow compatriot Christoph Metzelder, and also follow in the footsteps of greats such as Günther Netzer, Paul Breitner, Bernd Schuster, and Bodo Illgner. Well...it seems that they're already working on their new team. Schneider IMO one of the most underestimated players on earth. Although he's 33 that guy is a freakin genius and my favourite german football player. It would be hard to see Schnixx leaving the Bundesliga.
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Jun 22 2007, 10:07 AM
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Sorry...double post cause of sever problems...
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Jun 22 2007, 07:08 PM
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Wow.
Okay, so right now Barca have WAY too many world-class strikers to keep happy. Who're they getting rid of?
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Jun 22 2007, 08:01 PM
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I don't think all the big names will stay. Not even Rijkaard is fool enough to consider starting them all and I can't see any of 'em being happy with being benched.
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Jun 23 2007, 03:15 PM
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Oh, almost certainly not. Barca management types were in Rome yesterday meeting with the Sensi family to discuss Chivu's transfer. Especially with the injury to Puyol, they REALLY need defenders. They're apparently offering rather a lot for Chivu too. (12 m euros + a player)
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Jun 24 2007, 10:19 AM
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Hmm...I wonder if Sevilla are buying anyone. Reyes is looking good for them.
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Jun 24 2007, 01:36 PM
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Calciomercato is reporting that Chivu will go to Barca for 12 million + Giuly. linkThey're also reporting that because of Van Nistlerooy's injury, Madrid are looking for another striker. (Could we give them Oliveira for someone?) link
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Jun 24 2007, 01:56 PM
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Oliveira + cash for Gago!!! (IMG: http://coolsmileys.net/affection/hubba4.gif) Good deal for Barcelona! And better for us that he's not going Inter...
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Jun 26 2007, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE Atletico Madrid have denied reports that they have received an offer from Liverpool for Fernando Torres. Reports over the last few days have suggested Liverpool were planning a move for the Spanish international. It had been claimed Liverpool were ready to break their transfer record to sign Torres in a £25million deal. Torres' future at Atletico is up in the air after another disappointing campaign at the Vicente Calderon last season. The 23-year-old is believed to be considering moving on for a new challenge, but Atletico president Enrique Cerezo says they have received no offers for the talented forward. "We've received no offer from Liverpool or any other club or player," said Cerezo. "There is nothing linking Torres with any team. He's on holidays, he's resting and he'll return to work on July 9. " All the players have a (buy-out) clause in their contract and in that case we would not be able to do anything, but I repeat that there has been nothing about Torres from any team. "We are now working to create a good team for the coming year." Sky Sports If he's got a buy out clause, that's not as ridiculous as Messi's, then he's a goner.
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Jun 26 2007, 12:55 PM
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From the club website: COMUNICATO UFFICIALE A.C. MILAN 26/06/2007 MILANO - L'A.C. Milan comunica di aver ceduto a titolo temporaneo il calciatore Christian Abbiati all'Atletico Madrid fino al 30 giugno 2008.
[Abbiati is going to Atletico Madrid for a year.]
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Jun 26 2007, 01:20 PM
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Abbiati will be loaned to Atletico or what? QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 26 2007, 02:10 AM) Don't really know what to say. He was decent at the World Cup, that's all I've seen. He's very good! QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 03:49 AM) I hope to God he goes to Man U though. ?? Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?
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Jun 26 2007, 01:35 PM
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Yep, it's a 1 year loan to Atletico for Abbiati. I'm a little surprised; I'd thought he would stay at Torino.
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Jun 26 2007, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE I Will Take Every Cent Madrid Owe Me - Capello Fabio Capello has insisted that if Real Madrid sack him, they will have to pay every cent of his salary for the next two years."It is a hypothesis that could become true," he admitted, speaking to AS during an interview, when asked about a possible sack. "I am going on vacation. I will be in Tibet and China, and I am sure I will have plenty of time to think about my future." "The president can decide whatever he wants," he continued. "If he has chosen Schuster, that is his business. "As far as I know, I am going to respect my three year contract. "I they sack me, they will have to pay me, and I will make sure I take the last cent." Asked to comment on Ramon Calderon's performance, he chose to bite his lip, though. "The judgement on Calderon, I will pass when I return from my long vacations." It is expected that Capello will be given the sack in the coming days, as soon as Bernd Schuster wriggles out of his Getafe contract. Comments from Don Fabio seem to suggest that he himself is resigned to his fate. goal You deserve it Fabio! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Don't you ever give them a title again though cause I'm gonna hate you!
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Jun 26 2007, 06:58 PM
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Random thought during lunch: rumor has it that Barca are getting rid of Deco this transfer season. They've signed Henry, Toure, (probably) Chivu, etc. But no playmakers.
I think that this may be a serious mistake. Deco is very important to Barca -- he's the one who dictates play and who gets the ball forward to the big guns. When he doesn't play well, the whole team looks off. Having no Deco (even an off-form one) next year along with all those strikers...makes me wonder wtf the Barca leadership are thinking.
Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?
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Jun 26 2007, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 08:48 PM) Yes, just name me one Spanish player who made it big in Serie A. I don't think a Spanish player of his qualities has ever stepped foot on, as channel4 like to say, the peninsula... He would be great in my opinion. I think he has just as many possibilities to succeed in Serie A as every other player out there... including our targets R20, Eto'o, ... QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 26 2007, 08:58 PM) Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal? I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there!
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Jun 26 2007, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 02:30 PM) I don't think a Spanish player of his qualities has ever stepped foot on, as channel4 like to say, the peninsula... He would be great in my opinion. I think he has just as many possibilities to succeed in Serie A as every other player out there... including our targets R20, Eto'o, ... I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there! Stop it! You are breaking my heart... I want to justify him not coming somehow... (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Jun 26 2007, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 26 2007, 07:57 PM) Can we afford having another Oliveira or Jose Mari incedent ?! I think after waiting on Gilardino to become consistent .. The club should look for someone with a bit more experience at playing at a top club .. Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club. In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do. Getting him would be risky as there could be a million reasons why he can fail On the other side he does have qualties needed and there is a good chance he can succeed
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Jun 26 2007, 11:54 PM
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Your right about that .. And believe me, I really see a future for Torres at top club level. But at the same time, I think about it, then think of Gilardino .. I mean, I think what we need to challenge for all 5 competitions next season is someone who can put on his scoring boots and gets down to business, the closest there is to that is Shevchenko. But this is my assumption, and Torres could very well be a solution for our attack as much as he can be a liability just as Gilardino. This is what I ment ..
In anycase, I wouldn't mind Torres in a Milan shirt. I have always been a fan, just a bit skeptical ont he issue 'if he can adapt..'
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Jun 27 2007, 12:08 AM
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I like Torres too. But...well, my concern is that he'll have the same sort of adaptation problems to Serie A that Oliveira had. The styles of play between Serie A and La Liga are different, especially for the strikers. I'm just not sure he could make the transition. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jun 27 2007, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 27 2007, 12:56 AM) Not many world class players from the 'big 3' are trying to move. Why should they? They are already playing in a big league, big teams and it's close to home. No, I know what you're saying. Those that have don't end up too great though. Here's a few examples: (They're not all stars, but you get the idea.) Robbie Keane: Premiership player, tried his luck with Inter. Failed miserably. Fernando Morientes: Prolific with both Madrid and Valencia, couldn't buy a goal at Liverpool. Bernardo Corradi: He was decent enough at Parma and Lazio, but went abroad with Valencia (Spain) and Man City (England) and didn't really hit it off. I find Dutch players seem to have the best 'adaptability', they have players doing very well in Spain/England/Germany/Italy. I'd like to see us enter the Dutch market, Huntelaar inparticular. Highly doubt we will though. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jun 27 2007, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 27 2007, 01:34 AM) Morientes is a good player, Corradi and Keane are sh!t. Becham did o.k, Owen never got the opportunity, Mcmanaman played good only in his first season. Alonso is great (and the rest Spanish colony in Pool are o.k), Viery was superb in his only season in Spain. Also Vialli, Zola Ravanelli (spelling) were good. Cannavaro was average ... There are another few examples but not enough to tell something specific. I suppose you're right. Though I believe a truly great player can go anywhere, regardless of how their team/opponents play. Ruud van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo are the two guys I'd pick at the moment, they've scored a shed load of goals wherever they've gone.
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Jun 28 2007, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 28 2007, 12:16 AM) Not enough I'm affraid .. They lost Beckham - a well experienced player. And bring in Robben, a 23 year old. They need an experienced player more than anymore young players. But that is just me (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Imagine... ---------------- Nistelrooy------------------ -Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves--- -------------Diarra-----Gago-------------- Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos -------------------Casillas------------------ With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side. Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above). QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 28 2007, 12:57 AM) That's just show you how pathetic they are. They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
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Jun 28 2007, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 07:16 PM) Imagine... ---------------- Nistelrooy------------------ -Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves--- -------------Diarra-----Gago-------------- Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos -------------------Casillas------------------ With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side. Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above). They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years. marcelo is their replacement for R.carlos... i dunno why would they get drenth?
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Jun 28 2007, 01:28 AM
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Smoking Bianco
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:16 AM) Imagine... ---------------- Nistelrooy------------------ -Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves--- -------------Diarra-----Gago-------------- Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos -------------------Casillas------------------ With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side. Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above). They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years. I can imagine that .. As it does seem like a brilliant attacking formation (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But look at the players, only Casillas, Nistelrooy and Cannavaro bring the experience to the side (Though there is Raul and co. .. I am going by what Carlos said, that Madrid are getting rid of the experienced players and replacing them with younger players). I mean, knowing Madrid, I wouldn't be surprised if they did sign those 3 players, as rumored. But they need more than those 3, they need experience, if they can sign one or two experienced players, they will be all set to become eventual rivals for the CL .. Robben's transfer would make Calderon stop nagging about Kaka' .. Obviouslly I am for this move. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 28 2007, 01:30 AM
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Token Girl
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*perk* Drenthe can play left back AND left wing? Er. Someone should tell Fester!
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