Yes, finally got rid of the ridiculous fly-aways

Final, 3-0. Brace by El-Sha and penalty by Pazzo.

Looked to me like we played better than most games this year, kept going even after we went down to 10.

Worthless game, means jackshit how we played.

Was not a worthless game for Torino (they needed a win to have a chance at EL). But I agree it does not make up for a pathetic season.

Glad to see El Sharaawy being sharp in front of goal though.

It's time we face the sad reality that the coach we bitched so much about has won the double and is a CL finalist.

I've come to accept Pippo is not the problem. Leo and Seedorf weren't either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

No-one said Pippo is the problem, but he is part of the problem, and wanting him to stay instead of a qualified and experienced coach is madness.

Yes, he has done an excellent job at Juve (improving on a great team he inherited from Conte). He also won us the scudetto his first year, and managed to get us to a CL spot the 3rd year despite losing most of his team and starting out horribly. However, he did have a solid team at Juve, he really should have won Serie A his second year with us, and could not handle our team after he lost his star players (especially his last year, which was a complete disaster).

Should add that Allegri did much better than I expected, and in doing so he exposed a couple of limitations with Conte. You have to credit Conte with taking a team that was (almost) as bad as Milan is today and winning Serie A his first season (when Milan was still strong and arguably should have won). However, he never really believed he could go far in CL (or even EL), and hence never really tried (to the point of not rotating players ahead of important matches, even when he had a comfortable lead in Serie A). Also, he always played one formation (not an issue in Serie A, given Juve's domination of the league, but it hurt his chances in European competitions). Allegri, OTOH, went into CL believing (after all, he did manage to win some key matches with a rather unimpressive Milan team), and got Juve to play comfortably with multiple formations (so he could adapt better to his opponents).


I will grant you that we have other problems. However, Pippo *is* a problem as well. We really need someone better, or next year will be even worse than this year.


Personally, I though Seedorf did reasonably well. He almost got us back to an EL spot, despite inheriting a team with horrible morale problems and no idea how to play, and despite losing support from Milan management half way through his tenure. However, I would not consider him the ideal coach for us (we really need someone with experience).

Love Leo, and he brought a certain flair to the team (even managed to get Dinho to perform decently), but IMHO he was clueless tactically (and was smart enough to realize it after his year at Inter).

This post has been edited by Forza Milan!: May 25 2015, 12:27 AM

I do think Allegri had to go (if only because things had gotten to be too tense), but I think sacking Seedorf for Inzaghi was stupid. And if we're going to sack Pippo to get Maldini or Gullit or Rino as coach, then we'll be in the same situation.

If we can get Carlo, or Hiddink, or someone proven, sure, I guess. If we can't, keep Pippo.

I think we should either extend Van Ginkel's loan or buy him outright. He's a good player.

I don't think we'll be going for another rookie

At this point Pippo simply has to go, the worst season for Milan in over 2 decades if not more. I think there are 2 levels of coaches we can get. The Prandelli, Montella, Spaletti level of a coach, which is already a huge improvement over Pippo or someone like Carlo who is one of the best coaches around right now.

Either way, Pippo simply has to go.

Also, there were problems with all the coaches you mentioned, Leo and Seedorf were rookies wit zero experience when they took over. And Allegri... What can one say? He's doing great with Juve, even I have to admit that and hold out my hat to him, but just because he's been great for one team does not mean that he was great for us. If Pippo hadn't upped the stakes this season, Allegri would have gone down as one of the worst Milan coaches in quite some time, not to mention treating us to some seriously terrible football along the way, that again, thanks to Pippo upping the stakes it can no longer be called the worst I've seen in a while


I don't think he'll want to stay tbh, he was already reluctant to come in last summer, then had to sit on the bench for months while Muntari and Essien started ahead of him, something he could have easily done at Chelsea without having to uproot his life. He's only been a regular in these last few months after it became clear that Essien was finished and Muntari mutinied

It depends on whether Mourinho will give him a chance next season or not. If he deems him not ready yet, then we can extend his loan for another season, if we offer him a starting spot.

Indeed. And I don't see much space for MvG in Chelsea to be quite honest. At least not serious playing time.

Looks like we are not getting Ancellotti. (English version.)

Of the others you mentioned, I would rather not have Prando, I would like Montella but is probably staying with Fiorentina (despite what is being said), and I would be ok with Spalletti. However, my preference would be Emery (though I doubt we will get him).


No disagreement here.


As pointed out by Fillipo, I do not see MvG finding any space at Chelsea (look at their roster). OTOH, if we really are spending money this year, I would like to hope we will strengthen our midfield. If that happens, would we still want MvG?

This post has been edited by Forza Milan!: May 25 2015, 03:14 PM

I personally think he's a good player, and has also done well since being given a more stable role in the team, that pass to SES yesterday was beautiful and shows that he does have skill. For me he's Bonaventura level

Agreed on the coaches, if we're not getting Carlo, Montella would be my second choice, Spalletti 3rd