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 Feb 25 2007, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Feb 25 2007, 09:49 PM) Before we all get carried away about playing in ten men, let us not forget that Samp also were playing in ten men for a very long time also...  We where playing with 10 men for 80 minutes, Samp where playing with 10 for 45 minutes. So yes it does make a difference QUOTE (mishie @ Feb 25 2007, 09:49 PM) Agree with everything you say han except it was a red for oddo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) If that was red for Oddo then the last man tackle on Ronaldo by Falcone was also a red. In fact the falcone tackle was much worce then the one Oddo made, when it was clear that the Samp player dived because oddo never even touched him. QUOTE (milanistar @ Feb 25 2007, 09:58 PM) Is this a joke!!! You think we played like sh!t because of the ref? Are serious or stone man? This is b/s!!!!!!! Carlo is the main reason of this mess, he didn't play to win but not to lose! Just the fact that he played with Rino and Maxou is enough to struggle, especially when you have only one playmaker (Seedorf/Pirlo)! We had no creativity and no occasions, we were playing as if we were in Genoa not in Milan (At least they were playing with 2 strikers!) and we won because the god of football were with us tonight! Man you really need to chill. This isn't the time to be moaning about how we got the win, just be happy that we got it. When I say it's because of the ref it's because of the undeserved red and the fact that he kept making stupid calls. We didn't play like sh!t, we were all over Samp when we where a man down in the first half, the only chance they had was that 30 meter snap shot. We were going for the win with 10 down and we had much better chances then them. We played with 10 men for 80 minutes of the match while Samp only played the second half with ten men, that will take it's toll on the team, both phisacly and mentally. The tactics where spot on, you really wanted to see the fiasco of a defence we had against Siena? Bonera and Simic haven't played with eachother before, so Carlo put in the 2 defensive mids because he didn't want to put them under unneccesary pressure. Samp where the team that where trying to hold on to the draw not us. And you've also got to understand that playing with ten men for nearly the entire match is no joke and therefore the team has to be more careful about what it does. Carlo made the rught subs at the right time. R9 was getting really tired because of all the work he put in so he subbed him for the slippery Pippo, Seedorf faided away in the 2nd half so he put on Pirlo who was the one that made all the differenc in the end. Just get off the teams back. This isn't the time to be crying and whining about the perfromanc, be happy about the 3 pts. This post has been edited by han2503: Feb 25 2007, 11:52 PM |
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Feb 25 2007, 11:54 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali  Group: Helpers Posts: 2,623 Joined: 26-December 05 From: Inghilterra Member No.: 1,072 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:51 PM) We where playing with 10 men for 80 minutes, Samp where playing with 10 for 45 minutes. So yes it does make a difference If that was red for Oddo then the last man tackle on Ronaldo by Falcone was also a red. In fact the falcone tackle was much worce then the one Oddo made, when it was clear that the Samp player dived because oddo never even touched him. Man you really need to chill. This isn't the time to be moaning about how we got the win, just be happy that we got it. When I say it's because of the ref it's because of the undeserved red and the fact that he kept making stupid calls. We didn't play like sh!t, we were all over Samp when we where a man down in the first half, the only chance they had was that 30 meter snap shot. We were going for the win with 10 down and we had much better chances then them. We played with 10 men for 80 minutes of the match while Samp only played the second half with ten men, that will take it's toll on the team, both phisacly and mentally. The tactics where spot on, you really wanted to see the fiasco of a defence we had against Siena? Bonera and Simic haven't played with eachother before, so Carlo put in the 2 defensive mids because he didn't want to put them under unneccesary pressure. Samp where the team that where trying to hold on to the draw not us. And you've also got to understand that playing with ten men for nearly the entire match is no joke and therefore the team has to be more careful about what it does. Carlo made the rught subs at the right time. R9 was getting really tired because of all the work he put in so he subbed him for the slippery Pippo, Seedorf faided away in the 2nd half so he put on Pirlo who was the one that made all the differenc in the end. Just get off the teams back. This isn't the time to be crying and whining about the perfromanc, be happy about the 3 pts. bravo han that's a great post (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on the red card situation but that's ok (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Feb 26 2007, 12:03 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (mishie @ Feb 25 2007, 10:54 PM) bravo han that's a great post (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on the red card situation but that's ok (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Thanks But what did you think about the challenge on Ronaldo? Becuase imo if that wasn't a red then neither should be the one on Oddo. All I ask is of some consistancy from the ref. |
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Feb 26 2007, 12:22 AM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Full Members Posts: 353 Joined: 29-October 05 From: Slovenia Member No.: 772 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 11:51 PM) We where playing with 10 men for 80 minutes, Samp where playing with 10 for 45 minutes. So yes it does make a difference If that was red for Oddo then the last man tackle on Ronaldo by Falcone was also a red. In fact the falcone tackle was much worce then the one Oddo made, when it was clear that the Samp player dived because oddo never even touched him. Man you really need to chill. This isn't the time to be moaning about how we got the win, just be happy that we got it. When I say it's because of the ref it's because of the undeserved red and the fact that he kept making stupid calls. We didn't play like sh!t, we were all over Samp when we where a man down in the first half, the only chance they had was that 30 meter snap shot. We were going for the win with 10 down and we had much better chances then them. We played with 10 men for 80 minutes of the match while Samp only played the second half with ten men, that will take it's toll on the team, both phisacly and mentally. The tactics where spot on, you really wanted to see the fiasco of a defence we had against Siena? Bonera and Simic haven't played with eachother before, so Carlo put in the 2 defensive mids because he didn't want to put them under unneccesary pressure. Samp where the team that where trying to hold on to the draw not us. And you've also got to understand that playing with ten men for nearly the entire match is no joke and therefore the team has to be more careful about what it does. Carlo made the rught subs at the right time. R9 was getting really tired because of all the work he put in so he subbed him for the slippery Pippo, Seedorf faided away in the 2nd half so he put on Pirlo who was the one that made all the differenc in the end. Just get off the teams back. This isn't the time to be crying and whining about the perfromanc, be happy about the 3 pts. Well put. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) About that tackle on Ronaldo - yes it was made from behind (as the player Falcone was sliding to the ball), but I saw in replay that he got the ball first and then hit Ronaldo whit his knees, all in all he was the one who got to the ball faster so this was a good decision from the ref not to book him. As for Oddo - it was more a yellow for him but let's just say that the ref made a 50 - 50 decision for which we can't blaim him too much (Oddo did slightly touch the player and the player had a clear path to the goal - this by rules is a red card). Second yellow for Olivera also a good decision as he clearly tackled Kaka. In my opinion the ref in this three occasions didn't made any unforgiven mistakes (I watched replys for many times). But let's wait and see what ''experts'' will comment in tommorow newspapers. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by Diavolo: Feb 26 2007, 12:28 AM |
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Feb 26 2007, 12:23 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Did I mention how much I love Bonera? His tackles kinda remind of Maldini... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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Feb 26 2007, 12:27 AM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 885 Joined: 16-October 05 From: Paris Member No.: 605 |
QUOTE (mishie @ Feb 25 2007, 10:43 PM) Oh dear someone forgot there tablets again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's despairing! QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:51 PM) Man you really need to chill. This isn't the time to be moaning about how we got the win, just be happy that we got it. I'm quite calm actually, oh and b!tches moan I dont (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:51 PM) When I say it's because of the ref it's because of the undeserved red and the fact that he kept making stupid calls. We didn't play like sh!t, we were all over Samp when we where a man down in the first half, the only chance they had was that 30 meter snap shot. We were going for the win with 10 down and we had much better chances then them. Then you and mishie probably saw the same match and I saw another one! In the match I saw, la samp had more then one occasion and dida made a great save on quasomething's bicycle kick, they also were at least 5 time more dangerous than Milan, oh and Milan played like sh!t and defended most of the time like they were leading or something! QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:51 PM) We played with 10 men for 80 minutes of the match while Samp only played the second half with ten men, that will take it's toll on the team, both phisacly and mentally. The tactics where spot on, you really wanted to see the fiasco of a defence we had against Siena? Bonera and Simic haven't played with eachother before, so Carlo put in the 2 defensive mids because he didn't want to put them under unneccesary pressure. Sienna game had nothing to do with the tactic it was the players that didn't want to play! I can understand that when they were 11 players on the field but after that IMO it was pure incompetence to keep playing with 2 DM, oh I mean 3 sorry QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:51 PM) Samp where the team that where trying to hold on to the draw not us. Whatever! QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:51 PM) And you've also got to understand that playing with ten men for nearly the entire match is no joke and therefore the team has to be more careful about what it does. Carlo made the rught subs at the right time. R9 was getting really tired because of all the work he put in so he subbed him for the slippery Pippo, Seedorf faided away in the 2nd half so he put on Pirlo who was the one that made all the differenc in the end. Oh sure "I've got to understand", it seems to be the problem with me I relly dont understand (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Give R9 a partner in the attack and you'll see who the tired one him or the defender! Give him the occasion Pippo had when he left the ball behind him and you'll see! Anyway, I think it's pointless since you seem to prefer waiting for the individual players to make the difference than make some godamn tactical changes, Mourinho this afternoon changed Makelele for Robben cause he was struggling, and you know what happened? Robben made an assist and Chelsea won! Now tell me what Carlo did tonight to win the game, nothing he just waited for Kaka Pippo or Ambro to do something extraordinary, and thank God they did! Give me a break! QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:51 PM) Just get off the teams back. This isn't the time to be crying and whining about the perfromanc, be happy about the 3 pts. Crying yeah, I was commenting your post the one in where you said that it was the ref's fault and we played well, read my after match's post and then give it another try, pfffffffff! Oh and please do me a favour and avoid those kind of comments "Just get off the teams back" in the future ok!!! |
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Feb 26 2007, 12:57 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Feb 25 2007, 11:23 PM) Did I mention how much I love Bonera? His tackles kinda remind of Maldini... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) He's been great lead the defensive line billiantly tonight QUOTE (milanistar @ Feb 25 2007, 11:27 PM) Then you and mishie probably saw the same match and I saw another one! In the match I saw, la samp had more then one occasion and dida made a great save on quasomething's bicycle kick, they also were at least 5 time more dangerous than Milan, oh and Milan played like sh!t and defended most of the time like they were leading or something! Then why does everyone seem to be agreeing with my post and only you aresn't. Ok so they had 2 good chances in the entire first half when they had a numerical advantage, big deal, Kaka had 2 great shots save, Jankulovski also has a great free kick saved and Ronaldo almost twice connected to crosses coming in but couldn't, and this was when we where with a man down. QUOTE (milanistar @ Feb 25 2007, 11:27 PM) Sienna game had nothing to do with the tactic it was the players that didn't want to play! I can understand that when they were 11 players on the field but after that IMO it was pure incompetence to keep playing with 2 DM, oh I mean 3 sorry Pirlo was not fit to start and neither was Yoann, Seedorf was the only playmaker available and he wasn't even 100% yet. The Sienna game was sucha catastrophy in defence because we went all out in attack and where left vulnarable in defence. Playing 2 defensive mids while with 10 men and a patched up defence is not a big travisty, it's a smart move. And in the end it was a defensive midfielder that got us the goal not a striker or another playmaker QUOTE (milanistar @ Feb 25 2007, 11:27 PM) Oh sure "I've got to understand", it seems to be the problem with me I relly dont understand (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Give R9 a partner in the attack and you'll see who the tired one him or the defender! Give him the occasion Pippo had when he left the ball behind him and you'll see! Anyway, I think it's pointless since you seem to prefer waiting for the individual players to make the difference than make some godamn tactical changes, Mourinho this afternoon changed Makelele for Robben cause he was struggling, and you know what happened? Robben made an assist and Chelsea won! Now tell me what Carlo did tonight to win the game, nothing he just waited for Kaka Pippo or Ambro to do something extraordinary, and thank God they did! Give me a break! Our goal didn't come from a piece of indidual brilliance, it came froma good team move, Pirlo (who was a sub btw) started the move by spotting Janku on a run and feeding him a long ball out to the flank and Janku crossed the ball and Ambro headed it in, I don't see how that's a piece of individual brilliance. In the end Sampdoria lost the game because they where the ones trying to sit on the draw and we kept trying to win the match. QUOTE (milanistar @ Feb 25 2007, 11:27 PM) Crying yeah, I was commenting your post the one in where you said that it was the ref's fault and we played well, read my after match's post and then give it another try, pfffffffff! Oh and please do me a favour and avoid those kind of comments "Just get off the teams back" in the future ok!!! I'm sorry but how old are you??? You really act like a small child especially when replying in this manner, and I never said we play bad because of the ref I said the ref nearly cost us the match, read my posts carefully before you reply please. We won, be happy about it, end of story, I'm really done with this conversation with you because you really don't know how to discuss in an adult manner |
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Feb 26 2007, 01:09 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
I`ve just checked out the result...a great feeling to see us back in winning form at least.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Feb 26 2007, 01:37 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
3 POINTS MY LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Not a good game (story of 2006/2007 season) but 3 points!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Simic-Bonera was worse than I expected but it was a million times better than Bonera on his own. Ermm... I mean Bonera with Kaladze! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:06 PM) Bonera is leading the defensive line amazingly (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 25 2007, 10:35 PM) I don't think it was a red, Simic was still there. it wasn't a last man challenge imo. This is what most people think about that kind of situations but it's wrong. The rule does not mention anything about any last man, it say a red card is been shown when a man in a clear goal position is brought down!! QUOTE (weeeow @ Feb 25 2007, 11:14 PM) Pierluigi Collina's retirement was a great low point for the refereeing situation a great low point for Giuve that is... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE (weeeow @ Feb 25 2007, 11:18 PM) BLOND ANGEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) He-he!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by dst: Feb 26 2007, 01:38 AM |
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Feb 26 2007, 01:43 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 26 2007, 01:37 AM) [b] Not a good game (story of 2006/2007 season) but 3 points!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Simic-Bonera was worse than I expected but it was a million times better than Bonera on his own. Ermm... I mean Bonera with Kaladze! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Well, I`m a bit interested now...how was exactly Å imić`s play? |
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Feb 26 2007, 01:58 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 26 2007, 02:43 AM) Well, I`m a bit interested now...how was exactly Å imić`s play? Mediocre. |
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Feb 26 2007, 02:01 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 26 2007, 01:58 AM) Mediocre. Since we didn`t conceeded any...Å imić is pretty much all the time mediocre. It`s good to have someone like that on the bench.. |
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Feb 26 2007, 02:07 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Hey, has anyone a clip of that Ambro goal? I`d like to check it out... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Feb 26 2007, 02:18 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 26 2007, 03:07 AM) Hey, has anyone a clip of that Ambro goal? I`d like to check it out... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Here! |
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Feb 26 2007, 02:23 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 26 2007, 02:18 AM) Thanx...That will keep me awake till the Oscar`s start.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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