QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 17 2018, 12:42 PM)
If we had signed a proper left winger, we’d have Biglia, Kessie and Hakan as starters in midfield with Bakayoko and Bonaventura as subs. That’s not a shabby midfield.
But by deploying Hakan in attack not only we’re depriving ourselves of a creative force in midfield but we’re left with no options as well. Anyone with working brain cells can see that. No idea what Leonardo and Gattuso are thinking.
@William I don’t see Hakan as a winger, sorry. I see him as an AM/LCM. With him and Suso uprfront, we’re playing 4-3-2-1 rather than 4-3-3, and that limits our attacking prowess considerably. That system might have worked when we had guys like Pirlo, Seedorf, Rui Costa and Kakà, but not with the current roster of players we have.
But you're assuming that Hakan would start as the LCM, and personally, I don't think that's a good idea. He just leaves too much space behind him. Whenever he played there last season he never really impressed
For me, it's pretty obvious that Rino sees Bakayoko as the answer. He will most likely play him in that LCM position because tha's the kind of profile he likes. Which is very worrying if you ask me. We're going to have zero creativity in that midfield
Well Hakan for me is an AM, he's not a CM or a winger. But he was one of our best players when playing on the left as opposed to when Montella played him in midfield where he was generally bad imo
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 17 2018, 11:35 PM)
The formation will change during the game as well. Debating when the first professional game of the season hasn't kicked off yet is pointless. Whatever testing he does either in friendlies or training, he will probably use at some point in the season.
Ringo was instrumental prior and during the transition from Fassoni and Mirabelli to Leonardo and Maldini. He kept the team as a whole under control, not one player made a fuss about the off field situation. Plus he was the ONLY factor last season that kept Milan playing with heart. Why should he leave? He is a good coach, one that is guaranteed to pass on that Milan fire of past glories to the players.
conte is a good coach, but not what we need right now. I'd rather give Ringo a chance this season with Higuin instead of Kalinic and Silva, Bakayoko in place of Montolivo and the likes, and a direct report to Paolo Maldini which is just perfect!
P.s. think Hakan will be given free movement and not confined to a space
We'll see. For me, Rino has generally stuck to the 4-3-3 in attack which switches to a 4-5-1 when we don't have the ball.
And personally I would say the complete opposite about Conte. He's exactly the kind of coach we need in this period, while someone like Rino who is inexperienced is a gamble that we can't afford to take imo
QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 18 2018, 12:23 PM)
Pastore signed for Roma for only 24million?! Why didn't we sign him?
Meh, he's been in deline for a while now imo
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 19 2018, 10:15 PM)
I'm gonna side here with Han. Signing Bakayoko (even on loan) seems to me like a panic move. I think he's a surplus in our squad; we already have Kessie while we lack of a true organizer. We have too many midfielders in quantity and too little in quality. Biglia, Bertolacci and Montolivo should have been sold/shipped out, and a real creator or at least a talented potential should have been signed for midfield.
Hakan cannot play in central midfield, he's too undisciplined and too inconsistent. Also, his only true quality is his shooting and crossing, so it's rather logical he's being played on the side, even though he lacks pace. But I'd say that Halilovic, Suso, Hakan and Castillejo offer much more for the flanks than we had in the last 2-3 seasons.
But I get that we didn't have time to strike all the necessary deals. I think Leonardo and Maldini have done far better with far less money and time then Mirabelli and Fassone did last summer.
That being said, I'm really glad both F&M are out. I never once trusted those washed-out Interistas. Last summer and their lack of true vision proved that (even though I think they wanted to sign Cristiano which would have been huge, but well - it's their fault we didn't make the CL).
I don't think it was a panic move per se. I think he's the kind of profile Rino asked for tbh. He even mentioned this at the end of last season IIRC. Let me just point out that it is US the FANS who see Bakayoko as someone who's going to be rotated with Kessie. It remains to be seen how Rino will actually use him, and I personally have a feeling that he will use the both of them in that midfield often this season. It's what we're reportedly going to use against Napoli
About Hakan, it's not that he's undisciplined imo, it's just that he's not adapt at playing that position. Who knows what will happen as the season progresses. Maybe Castillejo can cement the winger position which would allow Hakan to slot into midfield and he could excel there. But I just don't see this happening tbh
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 20 2018, 12:32 AM)
Bakayoko was signed as a vice-Kessie.
We do lack a true organizer because Biglia is not good enough.
Hakan can play in midfield. He's very disciplined and in the second half of last season was very consistent, arguably our best player. He's the player with most vision and best passing skills, hence relegating him on the wing is a mistake, IMO.
I think that's what we're all assuming and hoping, but there's no gaurantee for that statement untill we see him being used as such
Also, Biglia is a completely different conversation, we'll see how he does this season, but next summer, we're definately going to HAVE to address those 2 midfield areas
QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 20 2018, 01:22 PM)
I know I'm quoting an old post, but I really like the formation that you posted. It would be cool if Rino tries something a little more attacking. I mean potentially Castielljo and Laxalt can play there.(Also, Bonaventura no??) I know that it is maybe not their natural position, but it could work as a stop-gap solution..
I honestly can't see Rino deviating from the 4-3-3. And yes, a 4-2-3-1 would suit the player we have better. But we've never been shown any sign of going for it
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 20 2018, 02:54 PM)
My question is why didn't we tap that hole on the left while we still could? Plenty of available solutions out there. Whereas Suso is the dribble/creator on the left, what we needed was a right-footed winger who can score. That's how you get the best out of a 4-3-3 formation.
It's the typical alpha-beta argument. Instead, with Suso and Hakan on the wings we have two beta type of players, both who can create, but none of which can score on a constant basis. Because they're not strikers. It's all on Higuain's shoulders to give us +25 goals in attack, and that's one hell of a burden.
For me, there are a couple of reasons as to why this could be.
1. Didn't have the money to go after someone who could really make the difference for us
2. Bakayoko was Rino's request for the position
3. Couldn't close a deal for a the top player we need in this position because or lack of time for Leo to identify the best option and close a deal