[Portman]

Champions League 2006/07 - 1/2 final (1st leg)

Manchester United v Milan

Tuesday, 24th of April, 2007

Time: 19:45 (UK), 20:45 (IT)

In every single time we met them in a knock-out stage, we always won (go trough).

So... what's gonna happen in 2 weeks?

[KillerMax]

We are out of the CL. There is no HOPE!

[kurtsimonw]

We are out of the CL. There is no HOPE!

Nice work there. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

We are out of the CL. There is no HOPE!

Yeah .. We were lucky against Bayern (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I just hope Man U don't kill us the way the did with Roma (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Well I know u guys are being sarcastic, but I hope we'll have something to play for in the second leg.

These guys can kill with their pace, and we haven't exactly been the best at handling pace, now have we?

I think Man U will win 2-1 in the first leg and draw in the second to go through; (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) We should just be happy our team has played to the maximum potential so far.

I have two hopes that may redeem us.

1. Man U are in an iffier position than us in their domestic league and might be stretched. Not quite the same thing with us, since we essentially have one world class striker who's exclusive Serie A, and well our team is finally full strength. Praying like mad though, that something along the lines of what happened to Sagnol happens to CrisRon...though on hind sight that is cheap of me.

2.They don't have any player who can bottle down Kaka in the mid-field. We should definitely play with two strikers and Kaka behind.

[dst]

2.They don't have any player who can bottle down Kaka in the mid-field.  We should definitely play with two strikers and Kaka behind.

We're screwed if we don't!

They are much better than Bayern, it's going to be really tough. United is probably the most in-form team in Europe right now. But a lot can happen in two weeks. We'll see.

[Warchant]

this game will prove one of two things

1) milan are back
2) man u is legit

[jefri91]

Yeah .. We were lucky against Bayern  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I just hope Man U don't kill us the way the did with Roma (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Didnt you say the same thing about Bayern (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) ?

[arivanjj]

ohhhhh, still 2 weeks away i don't wanna think about this match

this first leg will be crucial, we have to keep a clean sheet or even get an away goal, so our defence needs to be in the best form it can be, with no injuries.
it will be a very difficult match (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[sansiro1708]

DA FACK is wrong with u guys i cant believe u dont trust ur team
U NO WAT WE GONNA KICK SOME *** IN OLD TRAFFORD with solid defence and maybe a goal and SAN SIRO IS GOING TO BE OURS!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

WHO WANTS TO BET WITH ME man u IS NOT GOING TO SCORE NOT EVEN A single GOAL?

[arivanjj]

DA FACK is wrong with u guys    i cant believe u dont trust ur team 
U NO WAT WE GONNA KICK SOME *** IN OLD TRAFFORD with solid defence and maybe a goal  and SAN SIRO IS GOING TO BE OURS!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

WHO WANTS TO BET WITH ME man u IS NOT GOING TO SCORE NOT EVEN A single GOAL?

i'm with you all the way!

lol, i love how you worded "man u"

[Warchant]

DA FACK is wrong with u guys    i cant believe u dont trust ur team 
U NO WAT WE GONNA KICK SOME *** IN OLD TRAFFORD with solid defence and maybe a goal  and SAN SIRO IS GOING TO BE OURS!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

WHO WANTS TO BET WITH ME man u IS NOT GOING TO SCORE NOT EVEN A single GOAL?

no one is saying we don't trust our team

but man u did just win 7-1 against Roma (who beat us) at Old Trafford. Man U is a good team...at this stage of the competition you get the best of the best...and when that happens anything is possible.

if we play like we played tonight we will advance to the final...if we play like we did against Celtic, we will lose

[sansiro1708]

no one is saying we don't trust our team

but man u did just win 7-1 against Roma (who beat us) at Old Trafford. Man U is a good team...at this stage of the competition you get the best of the best...and when that happens anything is possible.

if we play like we played tonight we will advance to the final...if we play like we did against Celtic, we will lose

we all know how many times ROMA has played in this stayed the only playersthat had the pants to play in old trafford was totti

mmm do you think our players will get nervous entering the old trafford?
I DONT THINK SO (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Well lets just savor the wonderful effort from the boys this morning. Like carlo said the only thing we did wrong was not making most of out counter attacks.

I think we have to stick with the lone striker, since playing two would combine superpippo with gila again. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes man u are the team to beat, definitely the most in form team in europe. There pace could cause us a few problems. Especially that portugese bloke, he's not too shabby from what I've seen. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Between him giggs, scholes, carrick and rooney were definitely going to have to be on our heels in defence. Oddo really concerns me still, I really don't rate him defensively. I'd rather be slightly more defensive and play bonera at right back.

Then again they have to cope with kaka' running at them, who someone rightly pointed out haven't got a true tagger to shut him down.

[MizNelson]

There's no way in hell ManU would defeat Roma again by such an obscene margin if both teams met again.

[dst]

Oddo really concerns me still, I really don't rate him defensively.

In defence, he was amazing last night! And in any case, he can't even be compared with Bonera at RB...

This post has been edited by dst: Apr 12 2007, 11:38 AM

[jefri91]

didnt Oddo block a goal that didnt couldnt block??? I thought it was over !!! Thanks Oddo!

[Rossoneri7]

There's no way in hell ManU would defeat Roma again by such an obscene margin if both teams met again.

I agree .. Poor poor Roma (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Had their coach been Mourinho, for example, we would be facing Roma in the semis

[dst]

didnt Oddo block a goal that didnt couldnt block??? I thought it was over !!! Thanks Oddo!

Yep! He was very good last night. Although he did a couple of mistakes when he tried to block a ball to Salihamidzic only for Gattuso to tackle him from behind and later on when he didn't manage to clear a cross and Sali again coming from behind chested it out. But he was always first on the ball and nobody managed to get past him!

[Rossoneri7]

Lippi: Milan can win
Thursday 12 April, 2007

World Cup winning Coach Marcello Lippi believes that Milan can triumph against Manchester United in the Champions League semi-final.

The San Siro outfit joined the last four of club football’s premier competition after the 2-0 win over Bayern Munich.

They will now face the Red Devils in a rematch of the last-16 knockout stage tie from two years ago, when the Rossoneri triumphed 1-0 in both legs.

“I have always said that Manchester United are one of the best teams in Europe, maybe the strongest one at the time being, but we saw that they can be defeated,” Lippi told Affaritaliani.it.

“Carlo Ancelotti’s side has great qualities, Milan are experienced and give their best in this tournament,” added the Viareggino.

“The Champions League is the Rossoneri’s natural habitat, their chances are 50/50.”

United humiliated Roma with a 7-1 defeat on Tuesday at Old Trafford, but Lippi doesn’t believe that this result in any way lessens the Giallorossi’s impressive achievements this season.

“These things can happen, the final result does not reflect the real difference between the two clubs.

“Roma’s Coach and the players must have no doubts on the excellent results they have achieved over the past two years,” concluded the former Juve and Inter boss.

Football Italia

[LaPalma]

In defence, he was amazing last night! And in any case, he can't even be compared with Bonera at RB...

He was.....but our entire fence was just GODLIKE!!! Especially Nesta. And about Oddo, he was also very good in the offence IMO, Lell could never stop him on his flank.

[han2503]

First point of action carlo should take for this one is to neutralise Man U on the wings, if we do that then we could be on our way to Athens.

Imo this will call for us to play a 4-4-1-1, Putting both pirlo and Seedorf in the middle with Rino and Ambro on the flanks. This way when Ronaldo or giggs get the ball we double team them and play through the middle.

Especially in Old Trafford we should really use this one.

Anyway, I have faith in Carlo to do the right thing.

This post has been edited by han2503: Apr 12 2007, 04:23 PM

[Portman]

I really don't know how we're gonna deal with the cvnts pace. That's the big question for me.

[han2503]

I really don't know how we're gonna deal with the cvnts pace. That's the big question for me.

Yep, that's what really scares me, that's why I would play the 4-4-1-1, so our fullbacks and defensive mids can double up on him and Giggs everytime he gets anywhere near the ball. But imo Roma made him look like a god, everytime he got the ball they where backing off of him for some unknown reason instead of pressing him.

Also the fact that they don't employ pure defensive mids mught help, Scholes and Carrick both help out in that aspect but none of them can mark Kaka and Pirlo + Seedorf if he has a good game, so I think he will have a lot more influence then he did against Bayern where he was mostly acting like a seconda punta trying to drag markers away from Pippo and everytime he got the ball, Lucio, Van Bommel and Hargreaves where all on him.

I'm sure he will be much more free against man u

And also I think Vidic will still be missing for this one whoich is a good thing since imo, he has been the best defender in the premiership this season

This post has been edited by han2503: Apr 12 2007, 06:43 PM

[dst]

It's true that Roma made CR look better than he really is as Spalletti was the victim of the absurdity that Corriere, Messaggero and the whole "Gran Raccordo Annulare journalism" creates in Rome... those guys are funny! How could he have stopped CR when he was only playing with half a DMF!?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

But that doesn't mean he isn't a great player. He's arguably United's best and he's going to be the main threat when we face them. Rooney, I don't worry about him... Nesta will easily "erase" him!

Vidic has been great! And to think everyone was laughing at Ferguson for choosing him to be Ferdinand's partner...

[Portman]

Vidic has been great! And to think everyone was laughing at Ferguson for choosing him to be Ferdinand's partner...

He's injuried. Probably won't play the 1st leg.

[Rossoneri7]

Yep, that's what really scares me, that's why I would play the 4-4-1-1, so our fullbacks and defensive mids can double up on him and Giggs everytime he gets anywhere near the ball. But imo Roma made him look like a god, everytime he got the ball they where backing off of him for some unknown reason instead of pressing him.

Also the fact that they don't employ pure defensive mids mught help, Scholes and Carrick both help out in that aspect but none of them can mark Kaka and Pirlo + Seedorf if he has a good game, so I think he will have a lot more influence then he did against Bayern where he was mostly acting like a seconda punta trying to drag markers away from Pippo and everytime he got the ball, Lucio, Van Bommel and Hargreaves where all on him.

I'm sure he will be much more free against man u

And also I think Vidic will still be missing for this one whoich is a good thing since imo, he has been the best defender in the premiership this season

I agree .. We should play the 4-4-1-1 .. It can absorb the oppositions pressure and help with a quick counter attack. Plus, it makes the team solid and harder to break at any counter attack.

Roma were caught in despair, their team as a whole isn't as experienced as Man U's in knock out rounds, expecially one that corresponds to the CL quarter finals. Roma could have beaten United, but their coach also wasn't as experienced as SAF.

Milan on the other hand, thrive in this competition. If there is a team to beat it ahs to be United, but considering how fresh our key players are. I think we have an advantage, plus if they think they can beat us 7 or 10 nil, that would add to a catalyst that could end up having them loose both the CL and EPL. As they are under pressure now from Chelsea in the league. SAF wont rest his players, he has a numbered starting 11, his players are the same from defence to the attack, he can't afford to rotate, especially with Chelsea on their trail. In the mean time, Milan has just to secure 4th place, anything extra would just be a bonus. Plus, Milan has a squad of vast experience and it is in the closing stages of both the championship and CL that prevails. Milan also has a second line of defence (i.e. Bonera, Kakha, Simic, Sergio, Cafu..) that are very effective and on form, our midfield is very rigid with many choices in experience and quality, and our attack, well we have a striker exclusively for Serie A and we have one exclusively for CL.

Man U wont stand a chance .. They will be humiliated in the San Siro (u can quote me on this) .. That is how I really see it. I just like hearing their fans go on and on about them humiliating Roma and what not, but I think they don't stand a chance against Milan.

[misha]

I agree .. We should play the 4-4-1-1 .. It can absorb the oppositions pressure and help with a quick counter attack. Plus, it makes the team solid and harder to break at any counter attack.

Roma were caught in despair, their team as a whole isn't as experienced as Man U's in knock out rounds, expecially one that corresponds to the CL quarter finals. Roma could have beaten United, but their coach also wasn't as experienced as SAF.

Milan on the other hand, thrive in this competition. If there is a team to beat it ahs to be United, but considering how fresh our key players are. I think we have an advantage, plus if they think they can beat us 7 or 10 nil, that would add to a catalyst that could end up having them loose both  the CL and EPL. As they are under pressure now from Chelsea in the league. SAF wont rest his players, he has a numbered starting 11, his players are the same from defence to the attack, he can't afford to rotate, especially with Chelsea on their trail. In the mean time, Milan has just to secure 4th place, anything extra would just be a bonus. Plus, Milan has a squad of vast experience and it is in the closing stages of both the championship and CL that prevails. Milan also has a second line of defence (i.e. Bonera, Kakha, Simic, Sergio, Cafu..) that are very effective and on form, our midfield is very rigid with many choices in experience and quality, and our attack, well we have a striker exclusively for Serie A and we have one exclusively for CL.

Man U wont stand a chance .. They will be humiliated in the San Siro (u can quote me on this) .. That is how I really see it. I just like hearing their fans go on and on about them humiliating Roma and what not, but I think they don't stand a chance against Milan.

Good post (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

All true. We have advantage with experience and the possibility to rotate the squad while their squad is much tighter and they are still focused on a league and cup.

The first game will be a key. We need to close them like we did yesterday to Bayern and our 5 men midfield is definitely capable to do so. Also i don't think that they have any player that can stop Kaka.

We should play with exactly the same formation. Seedorf playing in more advanced role in a middle in which he is more effective and switches between him and Kaka are very confusing for the opposite defence. Ambro and Rino are playing very good defensively and Pirlo in the last few weeks is finally getting back into shape

WE ARE GOING TO BEAT THEM!!

This post has been edited by mishale: Apr 12 2007, 07:44 PM

[han2503]

It's true that Roma made CR look better than he really is as Spalletti was the victim of the absurdity that Corriere, Messaggero and the whole "Gran Raccordo Annulare journalism" creates in Rome... those guys are funny! How could he have stopped CR when he was only playing with half a DMF!??  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

But that doesn't mean he isn't a great player. He's arguably United's best and he's going to be the main threat when we face them. Rooney, I don't worry about him... Nesta will easily "erase" him!

Vidic has been great! And to think everyone was laughing at Ferguson for choosing him to be Ferdinand's partner...

Never said that he wasn't great, but I couldn't understand why the Roma defence was backing off of him instead of pressing him. If you allow Kaka that same kind of space then there is no doubt that he will also punish you.

He's injuried. Probably won't play the 1st leg.

Broken collar bone so he will most likely be out for both

I agree .. We should play the 4-4-1-1 .. It can absorb the oppositions pressure and help with a quick counter attack. Plus, it makes the team solid and harder to break at any counter attack.

Roma were caught in despair, their team as a whole isn't as experienced as Man U's in knock out rounds, expecially one that corresponds to the CL quarter finals. Roma could have beaten United, but their coach also wasn't as experienced as SAF.

Milan on the other hand, thrive in this competition. If there is a team to beat it ahs to be United, but considering how fresh our key players are. I think we have an advantage, plus if they think they can beat us 7 or 10 nil, that would add to a catalyst that could end up having them loose both  the CL and EPL. As they are under pressure now from Chelsea in the league. SAF wont rest his players, he has a numbered starting 11, his players are the same from defence to the attack, he can't afford to rotate, especially with Chelsea on their trail. In the mean time, Milan has just to secure 4th place, anything extra would just be a bonus. Plus, Milan has a squad of vast experience and it is in the closing stages of both the championship and CL that prevails. Milan also has a second line of defence (i.e. Bonera, Kakha, Simic, Sergio, Cafu..) that are very effective and on form, our midfield is very rigid with many choices in experience and quality, and our attack, well we have a striker exclusively for Serie A and we have one exclusively for CL.

Man U wont stand a chance .. They will be humiliated in the San Siro (u can quote me on this) .. That is how I really see it. I just like hearing their fans go on and on about them humiliating Roma and what not, but I think they don't stand a chance against Milan.

Well let's not get too over confident because if I remeber correctly, everytime we have done that this season we have lost.

I remain optimistic about our chances in the tie, but I think United are the favourite to go through which imo will suite our squad well.

This post has been edited by han2503: Apr 12 2007, 07:47 PM

[Rossoneri7]

I remain optimistic about our chances in the tie, but I think United are the favourite to go through which imo will suite our squad well.

And because they are favorites, as were Bayern, our 4-4-1-1 was very VERY important to our triumph in Munich, I believe it will be so against United too.

Above all this, I think Carlo has has the upper hand on SAF before, plus, with United on form, Milan will want to do better against them to show their worth. I am not as optimistic as I am making it sound, but the fact that we have nothing to loose, as opposed to them, the team is 100% concentrated on the CL and nothing but the CL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

Giving in, was what I did ahead of our clash with Bayern. but little did I know that this team plays it's best football against big clubs, such as United. *shame on me, for letting in*

I have a great deal of respect for SAF, but when a line has to be drawn, Ancelotti has been consistent in bringing in results both in Europe and in the championship, and it is in the final run that Milan show their true colors. Which is why all this that I am typing isn't just a bunch of feelings mashed with logic, but pure instinct that United wont come into the match as hungry as our Milan will.

If u look at it for a tactical aspect; Milan has been testing all season long different formations and testing players in different positions. Which is opposed to what tactic SAF has been doing all season long. Milan has two sound formations which the team adapt to very intelligently, the 4-4-1-1, 4-3-2-1 and the 4-3-1-2 ... All of which, Milan has perfected in the closing stages of this season.

If you want to look at it from a technical aspect, well Serie A is much more technical than EPL.

If you want to compare players, then Seedorf is much more effective as a team player than CR. Our defence is no match for their attack and Super Pippo Inzaghi brought the Devil to the Allienz while he wasnt even 100% fit (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Plus, playing at Old Trafford, where they humilated Roma is an extra incentive for us to make due, and show them how Italian Football kicks @ss !! Plus, revenge for Roma (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[han2503]

And because they are favorites, as were Bayern, our 4-4-1-1 was very VERY important to our triumph in Munich, I believe it will be so against United too.

Above all this, I think Carlo has has the upper hand on SAF before, plus, with United on form, Milan will want to do better against them to show their worth. I am not as optimistic as I am making it sound, but the fact that we have nothing to loose, as opposed to them, the team is 100% concentrated on the CL and nothing but the CL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

Giving in, was what I did ahead of our clash with Bayern. but little did I know that this team plays it's best football against big clubs, such as United. *shame on me, for letting in*

I have a great deal of respect for SAF, but when a line has to be drawn, Ancelotti has been consistent in bringing in results both in Europe and in the championship, and it is in the final run that Milan show their true colors. Which is why all this that I am typing isn't just a bunch of feelings mashed with logic, but pure instinct that United wont come into the match as hungry as our Milan will.

If u look at it for a tactical aspect; Milan has been testing all season long different formations and testing players in different positions. Which is opposed to what tactic SAF has been doing all season long. Milan has two sound formations which the team adapt to very intelligently, the 4-4-1-1, 4-3-2-1 and the 4-3-1-2 ... All of which, Milan has perfected in the closing stages of this season.

If you want to look at it from a technical aspect, well Serie A is much more technical than EPL.

If you want to compare players, then Seedorf is much more effective as a team player than CR. Our defence is no match for their attack and Super Pippo Inzaghi brought the Devil to the Allienz while he wasnt even 100% fit (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Plus, playing at Old Trafford, where they humilated Roma is an extra incentive for us to make due, and show them how Italian Football kicks @ss !! Plus, revenge for Roma (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

And I do agree with your points. But all I'm saying is that everytime we get cocky about something and are sure of a win we end up being dissappointed.

Milan, have surpassed everyone's expectations, from crawling at the bottom of Serie A during November to nearly fourth in Serie A and in the last 4 in Europe after overcoming Bayern at home, some thing that hasn't been done yet in the Allianz Arena.

But let's not forget that we are still considered the outsiders of the competition, and imo this will suite our team just fine.

I'm not confident or pessimistic, but I'm definately proud of what our team and coach have achieved despite having our worst season under Carlo.

On the other hand I do trust Carlo and I think he will make the right choices, Man U found Roma vulnearble and esploited them, but they won't be able to do that against us, the only thing that scares me is their speed. But if they think that we will go out at Old Trafford and have a melt down like Roma then they've got another thing coming.

We'll just have to be smart about how we go about playing over the 2 legs. Most importantly stifling their wingers will be vital, that's why I think a 4-4-1-1 with Rino and Ambro out wide is important with Clarence and Andrea playing through the middle is important.

If United don't recover Vidic in time then that will also be a big plus

This post has been edited by han2503: Apr 12 2007, 08:56 PM

[Rossoneri7]

And I do agree with your points. But all I'm saying is that everytime we get cocky about something and are sure of a win we end up being dissappointed.

Hehe ... U like lying to urself don't you.. you .. you ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

Hehe ... U like lying to urself don't you.. you .. you ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Don't you think that has been the story of our season so far?

[Rossoneri7]

Don't you think that has been the story of our season so far?

No doubt (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Now we know how the merda feel for the best 5 decades (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (ehm, serie a obviouslly and NOT CL triumph)

[IoRDanCHo]

If we manage to neutralize Ancheloti we are in Athens!

[dst]

If we manage to neutralize Ancheloti we are in Athens!

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

If we manage to neutralize Ancheloti we are in Athens!

Carlo is the one that got us where we are so we shouldn't be hard on him

[IoRDanCHo]

Carlo is the one that got us where we are so we shouldn't be hard on him

Carlo is and always be an idiot for me (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

Carlo is and always be an idiot for me  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Well if that is the way you want to go about it then it is your choice.

But this is the guy that has took us to the pinnacle of European football and kept us there for 5 years running. No team has ever done that and we might have always had a strong team apart from this season but if you look at the other squads they where just as strong as us but still didn't manage to do what we did.

So you've got to give Carlo compliments on this aspect

[cjb198]

this is my first contribution to the forum - so I hope i'm posting in the right place...

I have looked everywhere for details on getting tickets to sit in the away end at old trafford to see milan.

anyone have any ideas where you get tickets such as these!?

p.s. my name is carlo. i'm only an idiot some of the time...

This post has been edited by cjb198: Apr 13 2007, 10:37 AM

[Rossoneri7]

this is my first contribution to the forum - so I hope i'm posting in the right place...

I have looked everywhere for details on getting tickets to sit in the away end at old trafford to see milan.

anyone have any ideas where you get tickets such as these!?

p.s. my name is carlo. i'm only an idiot some of the time...

Welcome Carlo .. I don't really know how it works, but to sit with the away fans, u have to purchase ur tickets directly from AC Milan.

[han2503]

Carlo I think you can find more info on the official site about this

[tom_valtellina]

I think the key to this one will be to control the tempo of the game. Man United like to play at a very fast pace which suits their wingers, whereas Milan's style of short passing and possession is better suited to a more controlled tempo. I think the 4-4-1-1 that Han suggested is the best way for us to impose our tempo on the game.

A narrow loss with an away goal would be a good result. A score draw would be a great result.

[redbabies]

they are weaker in defence than they used to be when they had Vidic and Neville.
Well, Vidic is out for a season, but Nevile may come back against us.

but, all in all I still think that we are stronger than them in midfield.

moreover, Van der Sar is out of form in last couple of matches.

[mishie]

As usual in england things get all out of proportion after 1 performance!!
I firmly believe we can beat Manure, yes they played well against Roma but god Roma were awful and don't forget manure were coming off 2 straight defeats so there form wasn't all that great. Ronaldo wasn't that great the last time we played them, rooney 1 goal in 18months of C.L football to me the midfield is the key and i can't believe that Carlo will allow manure as much space as Roma did. Compress the midfield which in turns limits the space in which ronaldo can use his pace and that's alot of his threat away and are passing will destroy them! i predict a draw at old trafford and a 2 goal victory at the San Siro (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

As usual in england things get all out of proportion after 1 performance!!
I firmly believe we can beat Manure, yes they played well against Roma but god Roma were awful and don't forget manure were coming off 2 straight defeats so there form wasn't all that great. Ronaldo wasn't that great the last time we played them, rooney 1 goal in 18months of C.L football to me the midfield is the key and i can't believe that Carlo will allow manure as much space as Roma did. Compress the midfield which in turns limits the space in which ronaldo can use his pace and that's alot of his threat away and are passing will destroy them! i predict a draw at old trafford and a 2 goal victory at the San Siro (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Agreed, except fpr one minor detail, we will win at Old Trafford, Milan will rule Old Trafford (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[Milan Are Brilli...]

Ronaldo wasn't that great the last time we played them

Exactly, there's our problem right there...

[javierk128]

we should play the same way we did it against bayern, with the christmas tree formation, we should be able to control ronaldo, the same way we did with van bommel and salihamidb!tch, and for rooney, we have nesta (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) , just be confident, milan will be in the final again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[han2503]

we should play the same way we did it against bayern, with the christmas tree formation, we should be able to control ronaldo, the same way we did with van bommel and salihamidb!tch, and for rooney, we have nesta (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) , just be confident, milan will be in the final again  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

You are not seriously comapring those 2 with Ronaldo are you?

The best way to play is by getting the upper hand in midfield, thus playing with 1 striker. Doubleing up on their wingers everytime they get the ball will be key.

The fact that they play such an open game without any clear defensive midfielder will suite us better since for once Kaka won't have to worry about being constantly marked by 2 players.

Pippo can make Ferdinand make a couple of goofs also.

Imo Rooney won't be much of a problem, especially now that Nesta is back in his best for.

Strifling their wingers will be key.

[dst]

Pippo can make Ferdinand make a couple of goofs also.

OK now please.. Pippo is useless. He scored against Bayern but he was off side and it was so easy Christian Maldini would have netted it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Every other time he touched the ball he always lost it!

Bayern's defence was crappy, neither Van Buyten nor Lucio were where they were supposed to be (not only in Pippo's goal but in many other occasions too)...

No more Pippo please. Ferdinand is going to kill him!! I mean it, he'll be taken to hospital only with a touch from Rio...

[KillerMax]

OK now please.. Pippo is useless. He scored against Bayern but he was off side and it was so easy Christian Maldini would have netted it!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Every other time he touched the ball he always lost it!

Bayern's defence was crappy, neither Van Buyten nor Lucio were where they were supposed to be (not only in Pippo's goal but in many other occasions too)...

No more Pippo please. Ferdinand is going to kill him!! I mean it, he'll be taken to hospital only with a touch from Rio...

You speak as if you don't know anything about super Pippo. There is a very good chance Gila would have missed that kind of chance... This is what Pippo is all about... He scores. He was probably 50% when he played against Bayern... I don't blame him one bit for the way he played. This season might not be his best, but always remember, if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be playing in the CL right now. He scored when it mattered and he will continue to do so... Forza Pippo! Forza Milan!

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Apr 14 2007, 04:15 AM

[tom_valtellina]

The second goal was classic Pippo. How do you give a guy like him a rating for the match he played on Wednesday night? He was caught offside on two or three occassions and his touch was slightly off. And then BANG, a chance presents itself and he finishes it beautifully. He may not always look in the game but you can be sure that when he has a sharp chance to score he will almost always take it.

The guy is so clever with his positioning and the way he basically lives on the shoulder of the last defender. He'll get called offside a few times every match but he'll also create a goal with the clever positions he takes up. A perfect example is his goal on Wednesday where he snuck behind Van Buyten and stayed in line with the last defender (well, almost anyway). He doesn't have the range of movement and bring other players into the game like Gilardino does but he is very cunning.

It was great to see his reaction after he scored the goal. I have missed seeing Inzaghi show that type of passion. I was so happy that he proved he is much more than a diver or goal poacher, as Hitzfeld had implied he was in the build up to the match. Underestimate Inzaghi at your peril!

Pippo Inzaghi, segna per noi!

[han2503]

OK now please.. Pippo is useless. He scored against Bayern but he was off side and it was so easy Christian Maldini would have netted it!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Every other time he touched the ball he always lost it!

Bayern's defence was crappy, neither Van Buyten nor Lucio were where they were supposed to be (not only in Pippo's goal but in many other occasions too)...

No more Pippo please. Ferdinand is going to kill him!! I mean it, he'll be taken to hospital only with a touch from Rio...

You make Ferdinand sound like he's Nesta (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

He's not that good and prone to making idiotic mistakes at times, I've probably watched every Man U game this season and he does make 1 mistake per 2 matches. Some are subtle ones that he recovers from, some are big ones.

Pippo dispite the fact that he doesn't know how to play football he is smart, and a tricky customer to handle. He's like a rodant for a defender, that's why they hate him.

He will give them a hard time, I'm sure of this. Also judging him on the basis of the Munich game is wrong since he was barely 50% fit and he admitted himself that he was playing through the pain. He will be ready against Man U, there's no doubt about that.

You speak as if you don't know anything about super Pippo. There is a very good chance Gila would have missed that kind of chance... This is what Pippo is all about... He scores. He was probably 50% when he played against Bayern... I don't blame him one bit for the way he played. This season might not be his best, but always remember, if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be playing in the CL right now. He scored when it mattered and he will continue to do so... Forza Pippo! Forza Milan!

Exactly. We talk about the offside goal, but that's the sort of luck Pippo has, if it was Gila and still would have scored then we would have been brought back for offside, I'm pretty sure of this.

Plus this is the semi finals, we need experiance out there, and no one can put you to the sword better then pippo

[dst]

You make Ferdinand sound like he's Nesta  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I meant to make Pippo sound like he's in a bad condition...

edit: (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) You know I would never do that!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

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He's not that good and prone to making idiotic mistakes at times, I've probably watched every Man U game this season and he does make 1 mistake per 2 matches. Some are subtle ones that he recovers from, some are big ones.

I haven't watched more than 5 or 6 game of United this season but from what I've seen Ferdinand does not make mistakes like the one Van Buyten did in Pippo's goal. I've seen him make bad tackles and semi-good clearances but tactically he didn't make a single mistake. But this is only from 5 games...

Van Buyten made a clear tactical mistake by leaving his position. In that occasion (40m from goal, where a shot by Seedorf would be just too ambitious) a defender is not supposed to rush to the ball and destroy the defence line especially when he's marking a player.

Anyway... this is not about Rio. It's about Pippo. I exaggerated when I said he's useless, he is always a threat. But how many offside goals is he going to score? If he plays I WISH he proves me wrong! I'd be happy if he did... and I will be supporting him to!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Apr 14 2007, 12:54 PM

[han2503]

I meant to make Pippo sound like he's in a bad condition...

edit:  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)   You know I would never do that!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

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I haven't watched more than 5 or 6 game of United this season but from what I've seen Ferdinand does not make mistakes like the one Van Buyten did in Pippo's goal. I've seen him make bad tackles and semi-good clearances but tactically he didn't make a single mistake. But this is only from 5 games...

I've seen him do them frequantly, it's more losing concentration and making a bad pass that would put his team mates under pressure, those are the most common things I've seen him do, and when a preditor like Inzaghi is urking around that is something that you don't want to do.

I'm pretty sure that Pippo would easily get on his nerves. I guess we'll see how effective he'll be against him, even if I suspect that Gila will play in OT and Pippo in SS.

Van Buyten made a clear tactical mistake by leaving his position. In that occasion (40m from goal, where a shot by Seedorf would be just too ambitious) a defender is not supposed to rush to the ball and destroy the defence line especially when he's marking a player.

Van Buyten is just a total joke, he should really be moved up as a striker, he would be much more successful in that position.

Anyway... this is not about Rio. It's about Pippo. I exaggerated when I said he's useless, he is always a threat. But how many offside goals is he going to score? If he plays I WISH he proves me wrong! I'd be happy if he did... and I will be supporting him to!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

Aren't all his goals practically offside? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But I understood what you're trying to say, but Rio without Vidic next to him is bound to do one mistake, I'm sure of this.

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Yet amid the celebrations of an eighth final appearance under Ferguson, and the prospect of a mouth-watering clash with Chelsea, the concerns in the United camp were obvious following the loss of Rio Ferdinand to a groin injury.

With John O'Shea missing, Nemanja Vidic and Mikael Silvestre sidelined with long-term problems and Gary Neville at least a week away from a return to action from his ankle problem, Ferguson's defensive options have been ravaged to the extent Darren Fletcher was forced into the right-back role, with rookie Youth Cup star Craig Cathcart the only alternative.

[han2503]

Yet amid the celebrations of an eighth final appearance under Ferguson, and the prospect of a mouth-watering clash with Chelsea, the concerns in the United camp were obvious following the loss of Rio Ferdinand to a groin injury.

With John O'Shea missing, Nemanja Vidic and Mikael Silvestre sidelined with long-term problems and Gary Neville at least a week away from a return to action from his ankle problem, Ferguson's defensive options have been ravaged to the extent Darren Fletcher was forced into the right-back role, with rookie Youth Cup star Craig Cathcart the only alternative.

Their probalems will have gone down by then with only Vidic probably still being out.

[dst]

Their probalems will have gone down by then with only Vidic probably still being out.

Sometimes groin injuries are grave... in any case it's their attack that puzzles me, not their defence.

[han2503]

Sometimes groin injuries are grave... in any case it's their attack that puzzles me, not their defence.

Why?

[dst]

Why?

Cause their power is their attack... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[han2503]

Cause their power is their attack...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Definately, but the Premiership does make it easier for a team to look slick and attacking, some of the teams don't even know what the meaning of defence is.

Milan will play smart, Carlo knows that there are 2 legs to be played, so we'll be playing on the counter for the entire match.

I'm sure that the first thing on the tactics notbook will be to clip their wings and press them as hard as we can.

The open game Utd play will suite us more then anything else, think of Kaka running free in OT without any markers.

Also, teasing the likes of Scholes who is a hot head will also be a good idea, he's a card away from a suspension, so getting him carded for the second leg would be a good idea. We saw how he could lose his head and make idiotic fouls against Roma.

I just love the fact how everyone is writing us off, they are already preparing for an all English final. The fact of the matter is that they dimolished an inexperianced Roma side that got all their tactics wrong and crumbled at the site of OT.

We might be old but we are experianced, and if they think that we are going to bow our heads like Roma did then they got another thing coming.

Losing the first leg 2-1 would be an ideal score, getting a score draw would be great, getting a 0-0 is risky but we've been in that situation before and still made it.

I always got the feeling that SAF isn't the strongest when it comes to 2 legged ties, where as with Carlo that is where he excells

[Rossoneri7]

... in any case it's their attack that puzzles me, not their defence.

I don't know how u can rate their attack ?! I mean, it is good, but not the best .. They don't even have a qualified world class striker, yeah Rooney whatever (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ... If any, it is their midfield and their build up to attack, not teh attack itself.

With that said, I cant clearly pin point where they would be dangerous ?! As a collective team, they have proven both in CL and EPL that they are the team to beat, but Milan have beaten much better sides than United and I don't see where United stand out from the rest ... I guess we'll know on the 24th (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[bigmacmtl]

i'm so anxious fot this game i cant wait for it, but i'm also nervous because going out in the semis is heartbreakin because we're so close and we did it last year so it would suck to go out a 2nd year in a row. anyways i really dont think we canrefer to vicotry against them 2 years ago for many reasons:
-our def was much better and dida was in top form (7 games without conceeding in CL)
-ronaldo and rooney werent mature and have come a long way this season and are in top form at the moment.
-we had sheva
-we had more depth in all positions
-oh and they had carrol in goal hahha (thats why we got the win in old trafford), then again van der sar has a rep. of fcking up on long range shots like what we saw against portsmouth the other day.

but hey this is football and anything can happen and if we win the CL i'm getting a milan tattoo!!

This post has been edited by bigmacmtl: Apr 15 2007, 05:15 AM

[milanista88]

I don’t agree with the sentiments of our defence standing little chance against their attack.

OK so CR is in top form, perhaps the best player in Europe right now, but everyone else is honestly pretty inconsistent and they have more players that lack experience than we do. I firmly believe our old boys defence will be the best that man utd will play this season and hopefully their last.

As for our attack I can only hope that Ancelotti will play two upfront, just give us better scoring chances, after all it's all about the goals.

our 1st leg against Bayern: 4 shots on net=2 goals, 2nd leg: 5 shots on net=2 goals (Bayern had 8).
simply that is really low even tough we are scoring -- it's a bit puzzling and mite not always work.
Manutd on the other hand, 1st leg: 3 on net = 1 goal, 2nd leg, 15 on net = 7 goals.
Also on 2nd match: ManU: 26' 34'' Ball. Poss. (time) Roma: 31' 45''
45% Ball. Poss. (%) 55%

I think we are pretty even, they may have faster and younger legs but we have the upper hand when it comes to a solid midfield and defence. I'm still hoping c.ronaldo get injured for good sum time very soon. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Forza Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[MizNelson]

No more Pippo please. Ferdinand is going to kill him!! I mean it, he'll be taken to hospital only with a touch from Rio...

Rio may not be at 100% when game time arrives, as he hurt his groin yesterday against Watford. ManU are pretty banged up themselves.

I think we have an ace in the hole in our CL road record. We've lost only two of our last 11 CL road games (dating back to last season), conceding only four times in that span, and we're also playing in a ground we're somewhat familiar with. Even a 1-1 draw may prove invaluable.

[han2503]

i'm so anxious fot this game i cant wait for it, but i'm also nervous because going out in the semis is heartbreakin because we're so close and we did it last year so it would suck to go out a 2nd year in a row. anyways i really dont think we canrefer to vicotry against them 2 years ago for many reasons:
-our def was much better and dida was in top form (7 games without conceeding in CL)
-ronaldo and rooney werent mature and have come a long way this season and are in top form at the moment.
-we had sheva
-we had more depth in all positions
-oh and they had carrol in goal hahha (thats why we got the win in old trafford), then again van der sar has a rep. of fcking up on long range shots like what we saw against portsmouth the other day.

but hey this is football and anything can happen and if we win the CL i'm getting a milan tattoo!!

Sheva was not playing in either of the games against them in 04/05.

This is more Carlo v SAF. The defences both have their problems, so the game will be won in midfield.

That's why we'll play a 5 man midfield to stifle them out and hit them on the break.

[dst]

I don't know how u can rate their attack ?! I mean, it is good, but not the best .. They don't even have a qualified world class striker, yeah Rooney whatever (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   ... If any, it is their midfield and their build up to attack, not teh attack itself.

The attack is not just the one or two forwards upfront just like the defence is not only the 4 at the back... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't get you guys. Why are you surprised that I said this? I think it's clear that if there's something that makes United special at the moment it's their attacking mechanism (is that better?)!!!

-we had sheva

Well actually we didn't, it was Crespo! But this is not your point and we also could you use some help from Crespo...

A Milan tattoo?? Hmm... I'd never though about it, sounds interesting.

Rio may not be at 100% when game time arrives, as he hurt his groin yesterday against Watford. ManU are pretty banged up themselves.

Even a 1-1 draw may prove invaluable.

Yeah I heard. That might indeed be good!

A 1-1 draw would be an excellent result!

[han2503]

but hey this is football and anything can happen and if we win the CL i'm getting a milan tattoo!!

You know what happened to someone formerly known as Portugal on this site don't you?

If this happened then we will ask you for evidence (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Although it will be us against the English so highly unlikely.

The attack is not just the one or two forwards upfront just like the defence is not only the 4 at the back...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't get you guys. Why are you surprised that I said this? I think it's clear that if there's something that makes United special at the moment it's their attacking mechanism (is that better?)!!!

I got what you said dst, but despite them being magnifacent going forward, I think we can hadle them.

This post has been edited by han2503: Apr 15 2007, 12:05 PM

[dst]

I got what you said dst, but despite them being magnifacent going forward, I think we can hadle them.

But I never said we couldn't...

This post has been edited by dst: Apr 15 2007, 12:11 PM

[han2503]

But I never said we couldn't...

I know you didn't I was just pointing it out, the fact that all the journalists seem to think that it's impossible from all that's coming out through the media is what's irritating

[dst]

I know you didn't I was just pointing it out, the fact that all the journalists seem to think that it's impossible from all that's coming out through the media is what's irritating

But... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't care what they say, let us be the underdogs for once! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Apr 15 2007, 12:28 PM

[Locke Lamora]

Hey, I can't see why we can't go through.
If we hold to a draw at Old Trafford, we can still win at San Siro.
In doing so, I think patiently waiting for defensive lapses will be crucial, it seems that Man U tends to lower their defence towards the end of the game.

Okay they beat Roma 7-1, but after they scored their second goal, Roma just completely fell out of the game.

[han2503]

Hey, I can't see why we can't go through.
If we hold to a draw at Old Trafford, we can still win at San Siro.
In doing so, I think patiently waiting for defensive lapses will be crucial, it seems that Man U tends to lower their defence towards the end of the game.

Okay they beat Roma 7-1, but after they scored their second goal, Roma just completely fell out of the game.

Exactly what everyone with sense in their minds have been trying to highlight for the past few days.

I've never seen a team give in like Roma did after the second goal went in.

[tom_valtellina]

There's been a lot of talk about Cristiano Ronaldo but Giggs is also a great player. I hope all the Man United guys are fit (obviously exluding those already injured), because if we're going to beat them then we may as well beat them with their best players. We can do it!

Part of me hopes that the 7-1 result will put alot of pressure on Man U. I mean, so much has been written and said over the last few days about the dazzling, attacking, swashbuckling etc etc football they produced against Roma. I think there will be pressure on them to come up with a similar performance. Milan, on the other hand, have had a difficult season and many will believe we have done well just to make the semi finals of the CL. There won't be the same expectation on us and we will go in as the underdogs, so I think we may have a slight psychological advantage in that regard.

As for what our strategy should be over the two legs, I think we definitely need to keep things tight in the first leg by playing 5 in midfield and just the one striker up front. The Old Trafford crowd will be roaring Man United forward so there will be good opportunities for us on the counter. Realistically for us, hopefully we can get a 1-1 at OT and then control the return at San Siro.

A big advantage for us is our experience on the big European stage.

[arivanjj]

oops, wrong topic !!

This post has been edited by arivanjj: Apr 15 2007, 01:41 PM

[Locke Lamora]

han2503, I haven't been here for two weeks.

[andi_sant]

My prediction is 0 - 1 for Milan.

[bigmacmtl]

Sheva was not playing in either of the games against them in 04/05.

This is more Carlo v SAF. The defences both have their problems, so the game will be won in midfield.

That's why we'll play a 5 man midfield to stifle them out and hit them on the break.

k well we had crespo and scored the only goals of the ties, and ya he was huge for us in CL that year 6 goals and that when we relied on a great Def

[han2503]

k well we had crespo and scored the only goals of the ties, and ya he was huge for us in CL that year 6 goals and that when we relied on a great Def

Despite the 1-0 in both legs we deserved to go through with a better result because we literally played them off the park in both legs.

And yes we relied on a great defence back then, but right now Nesta is back, and in top form, Paolo only plays the CL games so he will be ready, and I've got a feeling that Kaladze might be the one to play at LB to be more stable, because I can't imagine Janku trying to handle Ronaldo.

And I know that Crespo was important to us that season, but Pippo will most probably start the 2 games, and despite him not being in the best of shape, if you give him a chance he will score it, as seen against Bayern.

Also Carlo should tell Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo to hit bullets at Van Der Saar, I've seen him handle those kind of shot like the ball was made of butter these past few weeks.

[dst]

and I've got a feeling that Kaladze might be the one to play at LB to be more stable, because I can't imagine Janku trying to handle Ronaldo.

I'm praying to Paolo you're wrong!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

My God, you can imagine Kaladze and not Janku?? Please... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I'd rather see Favalli there rather than Kakha!

[han2503]

I'm praying to Paolo you're wrong!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

My God, you can imagine Kaladze and not Janku?? Please...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I'd rather see Favalli there rather than Kakha!

I know how you feel about Kala, but it is a fact that he is much more stable at the back then Janku.

I myself would feel more comfortable with him rather then Janku

[misha]

I know how you feel about Kala, but it is a fact that he is much more stable at the back then Janku.

I myself would feel more comfortable with him rather then Janku

I'm with dst. Kaladze at LB is even worse than he is at CB. Don't you remember his ridiculous mistakes when he played there? Janku will play for sure

[han2503]

I'm with dst. Kaladze at LB is even worse than he is at CB. Don't you remember his ridiculous mistakes when he played there? Janku will play for sure

He makes some rediculous mistakes as CB also (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

BUT he has had some incredible games at LB when we were really up against it against top class wingers and he pulled it off impeccably well.

I can't understand why you would prefer Janku, if you look at his matches he always forgets to go back down and defend during a match. Can you imagine the Portugese getting in behind him and running freely???

Imo Kaladze is the better option, if I were Carlo I would choose him and make him shadow Ron's @ss for the entire game, and when he gets the ball and runs at him Ambro or Rino will help out and quickly get the ball back.

And I think that it will be highly likely that Carlo uses Kala instead of Janku

[misha]

He makes some rediculous mistakes as CB also  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

BUT he has had some incredible games at LB when we were really up against it against top class wingers and he pulled it off impeccably well.

I can't understand why you would prefer Janku, if you look at his matches he always forgets to go back down and defend during a match. Can you imagine the Portugese getting in behind him and running freely???

Imo Kaladze is the better option, if I were Carlo I would choose him and make him shadow Ron's @ss for the entire game, and when he gets the ball and runs at him Ambro or Rino will help out and quickly get the ball back.

And I think that it will be highly likely that Carlo uses Kala instead of Janku

It's nothing compared to these he make at the LB (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Besides Kala doesn't feel comfrtable playing LB. He said that himself

Carlo won't put him there. He hasn't regain top shape yet after his injury but even if so and you want to put defensive player there then you can put Paolo there and tell him not to make too many runs forward

But I'm 90% sure tha Janku will play there. Carlo just will tell him to play more defensively. Janku can defend well too.

[han2503]

It's nothing compared to these he make at the LB (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Besides Kala doesn't feel comfrtable playing LB. He said that himself

Carlo won't put him there. He hasn't regain top shape yet after his injury but even if so and you want to put defensive player there then you can put Paolo there and tell him not to make too many runs forward

But I'm 90% sure tha Janku will play there. Carlo just will tell him to play more defensively. Janku can defend well too.

Yeah, well I personally don't think he will be able to mark Ronaldo well.

And if he plays I can see some goals being conceeded

[mishie]

it's a to bigger game to put kaladze straight back in and i think janku pace is a big plus
oddo-nesta-maldini-janku thats got to be the back 4 for me if no maldini then bonera i think we'll score and i might regret saying this but manure don't hold any fear for me i think we'll be in athens come may!

[han2503]

it's a to bigger game to put kaladze straight back in and i think janku pace is a big plus
oddo-nesta-maldini-janku  thats got to be the back 4 for me if no maldini then bonera i think we'll score and i might regret saying this but manure don't hold any fear for me i think we'll be in athens come may!

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You're jinxing it.

I'm already preparing to switch into my pessimist mode after the Cagliari game. I know it worked wonders for me and Max (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[misha]

Yeah, well I personally don't think he will be able to mark Ronaldo well.

And if he plays I can see some goals being conceeded

It won't be a man marking.

I Kala plays I can see more goals being conceeded (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

It won't be a man marking.

I think Carlo will deploy man markers on him and Giggs. Last season in the first leg against Barca we deplaoyed Zonal on R10 and it didn't work exactly as planned if you remember correctly. Then in the Nou Camp he deployed Stam as his man marker and R10 basically did nothing for the entire match.

That's why I think Carlo will ask our full back to man mark their wingers with Ambro and Rino helping out when needed.

I Kala plays I can see more goals being conceeded (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

We'll see what happens when the game comes and which one plays. If it's Kala that plays and makes mistakes then I will change my username to something as gayish as Porty instead of my lucky combination. But if he stays and does well I will keep the current one.

It's up to you to take the bet on Janku now. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by han2503: Apr 16 2007, 07:27 PM

[dst]

I know how you feel about Kala, but it is a fact that he is much more stable at the back then Janku.

It's definitely not a fact!

I'm with dst. Kaladze at LB is even worse than he is at CB. Don't you remember his ridiculous mistakes when he played there? Janku will play for sure

I actually think he's worse as a LB. At center back he always makes mistakes, in every single game he plays... At LB he had some great run down the wing!

BUT he has had some incredible games at LB when we were really up against it against top class wingers and he pulled it off impeccably well.

I have to credit him for some very good games at LB, that's true.

I can't understand why you would prefer Janku, if you look at his matches he always forgets to go back down and defend during a match. Can you imagine the Portugese getting in behind him and running freely???

Of course Janku against United won't be going up like he usually does...

if I were Carlo I would choose him and make him shadow Ron's @ss for the entire game

That would not happen even in Kaladze's sweetest dream! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

If it's Kala that plays and makes mistakes then I will change my username to something as gayish as Porty instead of my lucky combination.

I'd rather not see this scenario come true but I'd choose sweethaney for your new username! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Apr 16 2007, 07:36 PM

[misha]

I think Carlo will deploy man markers on him and Giggs. Last season in the first leg against Barca we deplaoyed Zonal on R10 and it didn't work exactly as planned if you remember correctly. Then in the Nou Camp he deployed Stam as his man marker and R10 basically did nothing for the entire match.

That's why I think Carlo will ask our full back to man mark their wingers with Ambro and Rino helping out when needed.

Stam did marked him but because of that our full backs barely went forward. If somebody need to mark him than it should be Rino. Kala or Janku man marking CR won't be much difference imo

We'll see what happens when the game comes and which one plays. If it's Kala that plays and makes mistakes then I will change my username to something as gayish as Porty instead of my lucky combination. But if he stays and does well I will keep the current one.

It's up to you to take the bet on Janku now.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

You see it's not an even bet cuz I'm absolutely sure that Kala won't play.

[han2503]

It's definitely not a fact!

Imo, it is. Janku does look good against ok opposition but I can't imagine him against Ronaldo.

Of course Janku against United won't be going up like he usually does... 

Even so, I think he can easily be passed by C.R

I'd rather not see this scenario come true but I'd choose sweethaney for your new username!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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Well that's a harsh one! Maybe I'l make a bet like Porty did. Because if we go through to the final I would even consider changing my user name to 'I'm_your_b!tch'

As long as we go through I don't care

You see it's not an even bet cuz I'm absolutely sure that Kala won't play.

I think it's 50/50. You never know

[misha]

I think it's 50/50.

So let's make it that way: If Kala plays I change my nick and if Janku then you change yours (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

So let's make it that way: If Kala plays I change my nick and if Janku then you change yours (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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Smart!

[Rossoneri7]

Imo, it is. Janku does look good against ok opposition but I can't imagine him against Ronaldo.
Even so, I think he can easily be passed by C.R
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Well that's a harsh one! Maybe I'l make a bet like Porty did. Because if we go through to the final I would even consider changing my user name to 'I'm_your_b!tch'

Please make this a promise !!!! Please ...

[han2503]

Please make this a promise !!!! Please ...

If I do it, it's not going to be over something as small as whether Janku plays or not.

It would either have to be for going to the final or winning it. I'm mostly leaning on the winning it bet since it's even harder then going to the semis and that a terrible username to carry around for something as small as the Janku bet

[han2503]

Bad news guys: (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

AC Milan goalkeeper Dida likely to miss first leg of Champions League quarterfinals

MILAN, Italy: AC Milan goalkeeper Dida has a right shoulder injury and is likely to miss the first leg of the Champions League semifinals against Manchester United next week.

Dida was injured when he slammed against the post Sunday while making a save in Milan's 3-1 win at Messina in the Serie A. He continued playing and didn't start feeling pain until the team returned to Milan.

Milan announced on its Web site that Dida requires two days of rest before further medical tests.

"We're worried," Milan doctor Jean Pierre Meersseman told Tuesday's Gazzetta dello Sport. "We want to get a better understanding of the situation but we can't yet because Dida's shoulder is swollen."

"On Thursday, if the swelling has gone down, we will carry out more tests."

Meersseman said that this type of injury usually requires 8-10 days off.

"Naturally, the goal is Manchester, but there's not much hope," Meersseman said.

Milan plays at Manchester on April 24. The return leg is scheduled for May 2.

Reserve goalkeeper Zeljko Kalac will start against Ascoli on Wednesday in the Serie A.

This post has been edited by han2503: Apr 17 2007, 11:28 AM

[dst]

Stay off the post! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I hope he'll make it. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But the biggest blow would be to miss Nesta... I trust in him to put that extra effort to cover Kalac's @ss.

This post has been edited by dst: Apr 17 2007, 12:06 PM

[arivanjj]

Kalac vs. Man U!!??

ohh boy. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[han2503]

Stay off the post!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I hope he'll make it.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But the biggest blow would be to miss Nesta... I trust in him to put that extra effort to cover Kalac's @ss.

Yeah, since they haven’t said anythin about him I’m assuming it isn’t serious