[Zed.D]

It's a very important topic in football world today and I thought it should have a separate thread so we can discuss it.

What do you think?


Blatter: '6+5' rule is crucial 7 May 2008


Report Finds That FIFA's '6+5 Rule’ Breaks No EU Regulations 27 Feb 2009


'Yes in principle to 6+5 rule' 5 February 2008

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Feb 27 2009, 02:46 PM

[LaPalma]

I think it's nonsense. If you can do any other job as EU-citizen in an EU-country without an extra permission a football player should have that right as well.

[acid911]

I think it's nonsense. If you can do any other job as EU-citizen in an EU-country without an extra permission a football player should have that right as well.

+1. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Besides if UEFA is so concerned about all this, they should try and help out the mid table and smaller clubs, both with their finances as well as improving the quality of their game.

[Tennie]

Looks like I'm going to be the loyal opposition on this one too. I think it's a good idea that will help strengthen the national games of respective FIFA member countries. It'll force clubs to actually look at their (and their country's) youth systems rather than buying foreign imports because they're cheaper and it's easier to do. I don't think it's completely protectionist either, as the rule is calling for 6 players to be eligible to play for that country's NT. Doesn't say a thing about the other 5 or any subs who might come on later in the game. In short, I think the Bosman ruling has not been good in the long run for the sport.

[Jack Sparrow]

I'm with Tennie on this one. The rule doesn't say non-EU players are banned from playing. Just that they can't start.

Surely 6 local players in a team of 11 are not too much to ask. In fact the team can even end with 3+8 players. With 8 being the non-nationals.

It is the only way clubs will focus on the youth system, and we can break free of the stranglehold that unlimited funds has. Otherwise, there is no way the rich clubs shall ever be dethroned.

[LaPalma]

I'm with Tennie on this one. The rule doesn't say non-EU players are banned from playing. Just that they can't start.

That's true. But according to EU-regulations companies aren't allowed to treat their workers any different than the native workers, which would be the case when the 6+5 rule will be in power.

[Jack Sparrow]

Yes, but that report says something about it. Since there is no way a company can implement the same guidelines without it being direct discrimination.

The non-nationals will not be discriminated on the basis of salary or anything. This would come out in the 'interests of sporting welfare' or some technical term like that and that's not illegal.

[kurtsimonw]

All for it.

I don't see how having a possible 11 out of 18 players in the squad being foreign is "limited job opportunity" for them. I think UEFA needs to push very hard for this, but unfortunately with the way the World is today, the minority has more power, so I see it as very unlikely that it'll ever happen.

[Bluesummers]

I'm opposed to this idea in the sense that its a sport, which people pay for to watch, therefore the best should play. But i can agree on several points in favor of this because arsenal and inter are very good examples of where football is headed and even I personally dont want to see that happening to milan or any other clubs.

[woody]

Does anybody think about the poor non-EU players who may better than the home-grown EU players but are supplanted by EU players under the 6+5 rule?

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[Bluesummers]

Does anybody think about the poor non-EU players who may better than the home-grown EU players but are supplanted by EU players under the 6+5 rule?

Yup. There will be huge losses for people all over the world if this occurs. In terms of the quality of football in a general standard.

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[kurtsimonw]

I don't feel sorry for foreigners in this at all, if they lose out, good, so they should. What about all the home ntionals missing out on jobs at the moment because there are so many foreigners in the country? Think what you want of it, bu a country should ALWAYS look after it's own people first, in my opinion.

[Zed.D]

@ Kurt

This rule could weaken the EPL more than any other league, don't you have a problem with it?




PS: +1 @ Tennie, Jack and Kurt. I'm all for it and I pray it is legislated asap.

[kurtsimonw]

@ Kurt

This rule could weaken the EPL more than any other league, don't you have a problem with it?

I don't really think so.

United could easily field 6 or 7 home based players and win the league - it also depends on whether people from Wales, Scotland and NI (those with a British passport) will be considered home grown or not. Ronaldo is probably their best player, but Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney are certainly all in their top 5.

Chelsea could pretty much just about field 6 home based players next season when Scott Sinclair comes back, who's no worse than Malouda, so I'm sure he'll start. Lampard is their best player by a distance, I'd say probably 3.4 of their top 5 are al English.

Liverpool is Steven Gerrard. Even Torres is having a bad year, he's always injured and doesn't exactly score many goals when he does play, Chelsea and Boro at home are about the only good games he's had. They might struggle, but they don't exactly have many foreign 'stars' to speak of. Torres.. can you think of another big name they have?

Villa regularly field about 8 English players anyways, so it wouldn't effect us at all really. If anything it'd be good for us, because English players would be more in demand and we could basically get any kind of money we want for them.

Arsenal would struggle, they'd need to buy in English.

I think people use the EPL and foreigners to fit their arguement most of the time. People wil say the EPL is over-rated and crap.. then when people say it's great, they say "only because of the foreigners".. make your mind up! Home based players, 99% of the time, will be the best players in the league in my opinion, mainly because of the style of play. I also think the national team has improved because Capello is allowing England to play like a Premier League team, rather than wanting us to pass the ball around and keep posession. He's playing to our strengths and it's working.

[Zed.D]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/8/main/2009/03...six-plus-five-r

A little bit too anti-English, but I agree with 90% of it.